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ctesjbuvf 10/11/23 8:55:25 AM #151: |
Speed is like the most noticable value when you just play the game.
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Espeon 10/11/23 8:59:13 AM #152: |
Im not even into competitive battling, but holy FUCK this gen was frustrating when Im trying to use purely new stuff, and its getting outsped by any returning Pokmon I face off against. Its even worse when some of them are aggressively weak fighters as well.
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LiquidOshawott 10/11/23 9:14:33 AM #153: |
Surprisingly Stonjourner is 70, pretty fast for a rock type
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ctesjbuvf 10/11/23 9:20:31 AM #154: |
Espeon posted...
Im not even into competitive battling, but holy FUCK this gen was frustrating when Im trying to use purely new stuff, and its getting outsped by any returning Pokmon I face off against. Its even worse when some of them are aggressively weak fighters as well. I feel like this was at its worst in gen 7 --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skulltrumpets 10/11/23 10:28:00 AM #155: |
I mentioned before that I don't outright despise any of these guys and ... yeah. I remember having a long stretch of Pokemon that I only slightly preferred to the previous and I am pretty sure Stonjourner was in that pack. Great concept, but I'm not the biggest fan of it's proportions. mnk posted... That's too bad. I do wish it was Rock/Fairy, though. Would've given it a bigger sense of mystery and whimsy.And holy hell this would have been enough to bump it up quite a bit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Espeon 10/11/23 10:33:42 AM #156: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
I feel like this was at its worst in gen 7 This is true, but Gen VIII feels worse because of the lack of creativity and the number of monotypes in addition to the slowness. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LusterSoldier 10/11/23 10:57:26 AM #157: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
I feel like this was at its worst in gen 7 Yes, Gen 7 was pretty bad in terms of speed. I actually mentioned this in my write-up for Ribombee. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as azuarc, Guru Champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 10/11/23 12:34:58 PM #158: |
85. Drizzile
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/9/AANp2HAAE7FJ.png Total Score: 2694 Average Rank: 63 Standard Deviation: 23.410 Water Rank: 10/12 Not Fully Evolved Rank: 29/35 Rankings: 15 - Xuxon 17 - red13n 22 - GameBopAdv 26 - PrinceKaro 27 - TexWolf_1729 27 - xenosaga 36 - Ermine 37 - ctesjbuvf 37 - DireKrow 38 - DragonGargoyle 42 - Raka_Putra 51 - Anagram 51 - Paratroopa1 53 - MoogleKupo141 53 - PrinceOfKoopas 55 - XIII_Rocks 57 - OrangeCrush980 57 - Steiner 59 - Ashethan 60 - Bitto 68 - MZero 71 - Brayze_II 73 - NFUN 73 - th3l3fty 74 - Eddv 75 - mcflubbin 77 - VeryInsane 78 - starfox 79 - Johnbobb 79 - KommunistKoala 79 - Mihark 79 - ScepterOfLove 81 - andylt 82 - Bane_Of_Despair 82 - changmas 87 - hbthebattle 87 - hotdogturtle 88 - mnk 90 - Luster Soldier 91 - Cody11533 92 - ecksgem 93 - Inviso 96 - skulltrumpets Comments: DragonGargoyle (38) - I would've wanted to be this guy when I was 16 Paratroopa1 (51) - typical weird teenager-phase starter PrinceOfKoopas (53) - Edgelord. NFUN (73) - Johnbobb (79) - https://imgur.com/r6tgSeb andylt (81) - I don't know what the focus of the design is supposed to be, but it's too... rounded? The colours are bad, this was a big warning sign for Inteleon. Bane_Of_Despair (82) - Now here's what we've been expecting, an awkward middle stage form. And not even in a funny way like Raboot, it's just kind of meh. mnk (88) - I forget this thing's name all the time. Inviso (93) - It's a weird, emo middle evolution, but without the fun of Morgrem. --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 10/11/23 12:53:10 PM #159: |
Okay I fully expected to be the biggest outlier here but... 85th? Surely this guy could have made it to the 60s at least.
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Zigzagoon 10/11/23 1:13:42 PM #160: |
This seems not right. I think you guys messed up. We should try again.
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andylt 10/11/23 1:19:48 PM #161: |
Not the absolute worst of the 9 starters, but I'm glad we've started to drop them. Figured they'd have a higher floor just by virtue of people knowing them more and having more personal connection with them.
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-hotdogturtle-- 10/11/23 1:23:59 PM #162: |
andylt posted...
Figured they'd have a higher floor just by virtue of people knowing them more and having more personal connection with them.On the contrary, I think that the middle starters are completely forgettable nothing-Pokemon that people don't connect with because you spend most of the game the the final form and you see the first forms mostly promoted outside of the game. This particular aspect of the starter Pokemon (the middles being dex filler) is one thing that I personally feel has gotten worse over the years, and is a rare aspect which I would say that the earliest gens did better. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andylt 10/11/23 1:28:07 PM #163: |
Hm that's fair, the middle evos have a weakness there for sure. Though I do like some of the middle starter evos in recent gens!
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mnk 10/11/23 1:31:34 PM #164: |
Gen VIII middle starters are all bad and among the worst in the franchise.
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skulltrumpets 10/11/23 1:34:57 PM #165: |
I expected to be a major outlier on this one holy shit lmao though yeah thinking it over, middle stages of starters tend to be the least favourite, though there are some exceptions. Grovyle getting the PMD boost, Dewott because folks were disappointed at Samurott being on four legs ... etc. I kept pushing Drizzile back constantly ... Every time I looked at it, my eyes kinda hurt a little. A bit of a mess design-wise. Out of the three starters it almost seems like they had no fucking idea what to do with Sobble. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bitto 10/11/23 1:35:29 PM #166: |
On the contrary, I think Gen VIII starter middle evos are very good. Drizzile is the worst by a large margin, but he's not bad.
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Bane_Of_Despair 10/11/23 1:39:55 PM #167: |
I guess this is a bit of spoilers for my list but Thwackey is a very good middle starter and Raboot is at least goofy and makes me laugh. Gen IX middle starters are generally better though yea
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Steiner 10/11/23 1:44:14 PM #168: |
Zigzagoon posted...
This seems not right. I think you guys messed up. We should try again. okay. i'm pausing while everybody submits their list again. new deadline november 10th --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 10/11/23 1:47:33 PM #169: |
On my new list, Drizzile is moved down one space.
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Zigzagoon 10/11/23 1:47:45 PM #170: |
Fhew. I believe in us for this next go around!
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Steiner 10/11/23 2:02:38 PM #172: |
okay the first list i got for the redo had no headers and 98 pokemon so i'm just gonna finish this one
84. Rolycoly https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/0/AANp2HAAE7Fy.png Total Score: 2694 Average Rank: 63 Standard Deviation: 23.981 Rock Rank: 4/6 Not Fully Evolved Rank: 28/35 Rankings: 5 - Brayze_II 7 - hbthebattle 18 - Johnbobb 28 - ctesjbuvf 28 - th3l3fty 31 - DragonGargoyle 36 - xenosaga 39 - ScepterOfLove 43 - Eddv 43 - GameBopAdv 49 - hotdogturtle 50 - Mihark 52 - Ermine 52 - Steiner 55 - MZero 55 - Paratroopa1 55 - skulltrumpets 56 - mnk 57 - Anagram 57 - NFUN 64 - Ashethan 73 - PrinceKaro 73 - starfox 75 - XIII_Rocks 76 - ecksgem 77 - Xuxon 78 - andylt 78 - PrinceOfKoopas 79 - Bane_Of_Despair 80 - Bitto 80 - changmas 81 - Luster Soldier 83 - KommunistKoala 83 - MoogleKupo141 84 - TexWolf_1729 86 - Cody11533 86 - DireKrow 87 - mcflubbin 89 - red13n 90 - Inviso 90 - VeryInsane 91 - OrangeCrush980 95 - Raka_Putra Comments: hbthebattle (7) - man, your evos dropped the ball so hard. we were robbed the train pokemon we deserved Johnbobb (18) - https://imgur.com/gOvXTxq Paratroopa1 (55) - they see me rollin, they (not) hatin mnk (56) - It's got a good name at least. andylt (78) - It's Roggenrola but worse. PrinceOfKoopas (78) - Go roll away now Bane_Of_Despair (79) - Honestly a little surprised it took GameFreak 8 generations to make a coal pokemon like this, the orange eye it has is kind of cute but it's just a lump of coal at the end of the day. Inviso (90) - Much like with Roggenrola, I rank this as highly as I do solely on an amusing name. --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 10/11/23 2:05:41 PM #173: |
Steiner posted...
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andylt 10/11/23 2:06:55 PM #174: |
Coalossal ranking top of this line is a travesty
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Steiner 10/11/23 2:11:20 PM #175: |
how big of a travesty
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mnk 10/11/23 2:16:03 PM #176: |
It will be a huge travesty if it suddenly goes out next.
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andylt 10/11/23 2:17:05 PM #177: |
a... gargantuan travesty
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Johnbobb 10/11/23 2:23:41 PM #178: |
Honestly the entire coal line is great and you're all haters
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-hotdogturtle-- 10/11/23 2:28:03 PM #179: |
I didn't realize that Rolycoly ended up so high on my list. I guess it has a nice color scheme even if the design is unspectacular. The glowing orange eye looks great on the black.
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OrangeCrush980 10/11/23 2:31:06 PM #181: |
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andylt (81) - I don't know what the focus of the design is supposed to be, but it's too... rounded? The colours are bad, this was a big warning sign for Inteleon.I hope this doesn't mean bad things for Inteleon... --- "You can learn to believe in others... ...even in the final moments of your life!" - ????, Yakuza 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 10/11/23 2:49:45 PM #182: |
83. Hatenna
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/0/AANp2HAAE7GG.png Total Score: 2679 Average Rank: 62 Standard Deviation: 22.383 Psychic Rank: 7/9 Not Fully Evolved Rank: 27/35 Rankings: 3 - Cody11533 22 - MoogleKupo141 23 - Luster Soldier 27 - PrinceKaro 28 - NFUN 34 - PrinceOfKoopas 34 - th3l3fty 37 - Bane_Of_Despair 37 - Xuxon 47 - mnk 48 - ctesjbuvf 51 - hotdogturtle 54 - Eddv 54 - KommunistKoala 55 - Anagram 58 - MZero 59 - ecksgem 62 - hbthebattle 63 - Mihark 64 - ScepterOfLove 66 - GameBopAdv 67 - Ashethan 67 - changmas 68 - OrangeCrush980 69 - Paratroopa1 70 - XIII_Rocks 73 - TexWolf_1729 74 - red13n 76 - mcflubbin 76 - Raka_Putra 76 - skulltrumpets 79 - Bitto 80 - starfox 81 - DireKrow 82 - Steiner 85 - Johnbobb 87 - andylt 87 - xenosaga 89 - Inviso 90 - Ermine 92 - DragonGargoyle 92 - VeryInsane 93 - Brayze_II Comments: Luster Soldier (23) - Greatest 3 Pokemon line in my opinion. I like all 3 members of this Pokemon line, though Hatenna is clearly a step down from Hattrem and Hatterene. I still like Hatenna because its cute. NFUN (28) - Absolutely idiotic, in a way that wraps back to being amazing, and then keeps going to something merely adequate PrinceOfKoopas (34) - hat Bane_Of_Despair (37) - Look at this cute lil' guy! Generally love the covered-eyes look, and I think it still works here. I might not care as much for its final evolution but this guy is pretty cool. Paratroopa1 (69) - never been fond of the little girl with hair covering her eyes completely look Johnbobb (85) - https://imgur.com/cg125jx Inviso (89) - It's weak and doesn't do a whole lot for me. It's just a Ralts knock-off, which already isn't spectacular. --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skulltrumpets 10/11/23 2:50:09 PM #183: |
Coalossal was difficult for me to rank because I think it looks better than Carkol, but on the other hand it is so inconsistent with it's line. And I am someone who tends to overthink these things .... As for Rolycoly. It's a cute, solid first stage Pokemon. Orange on black is an incredible combo. It's simple, but unlike some other simple Pokemon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 10/11/23 2:56:28 PM #184: |
Do some people just automatically throw all NFEs to the bottom of their list? Hatenna just seems so inoffensive to warrant being so low (same with Rolycoly and Arrokuda for that matter). Even from the "little girl Pokemon are bad" standpoint, Hatenna itself hasn't even developed into looking like a little girl yet, it's just a blob with a hat.
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LusterSoldier 10/11/23 3:01:00 PM #185: |
I do tend to have NFEs low on my list (as do a lot of other people), but my list does have at least a couple of NFEs outside of the bottom half. I even have 2 NFEs in my top 10.
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-hotdogturtle-- 10/11/23 3:03:25 PM #186: |
mnk posted...
Do some people just automatically throw all NFEs to the bottom of their list?What else are you gonna put down there? --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 10/11/23 3:04:45 PM #187: |
I think Hatenna is cute
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mnk 10/11/23 3:04:53 PM #188: |
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What else are you gonna put down there? The bad stuff. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-hotdogturtle-- 10/11/23 3:06:28 PM #189: |
mnk posted...
The bad stuff.Okay done. If anyone complains about my 96 I'm throwing all blame on you. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steiner 10/11/23 3:30:15 PM #192: |
82. Morgrem
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/1/AANp2HAAE7Gb.png Total Score: 2677 Average Rank: 62 Standard Deviation: 23.341 Dark Rank: 10/10 Fairy Rank: 6/8 Not Fully Evolved Rank: 26/35 Rankings: 3 - DragonGargoyle 6 - ecksgem 27 - red13n 29 - changmas 35 - Bitto 39 - Ashethan 39 - MoogleKupo141 42 - PrinceOfKoopas 44 - hbthebattle 45 - DireKrow 48 - OrangeCrush980 50 - Cody11533 50 - PrinceKaro 51 - TexWolf_1729 52 - Eddv 53 - Steiner 53 - XIII_Rocks 54 - skulltrumpets 59 - Bane_Of_Despair 60 - starfox 65 - ScepterOfLove 66 - KommunistKoala 67 - andylt 67 - MZero 67 - xenosaga 68 - Inviso 68 - Xuxon 70 - hotdogturtle 72 - GameBopAdv 76 - Mihark 77 - Raka_Putra 79 - ctesjbuvf 83 - Anagram 84 - mnk 85 - Brayze_II 91 - Johnbobb 91 - mcflubbin 92 - NFUN 92 - Paratroopa1 94 - Ermine 94 - th3l3fty 94 - VeryInsane 96 - Luster Soldier Comments: PrinceOfKoopas (42) - Kinda cool edgy pose. Better than Drizzile. Bane_Of_Despair (59) - Weirdly I think this middle form is my favorite of the line. It's sneaky and I like the one eye being covered, and it's not the monstrosity that it evolves into. Inviso (68) - I only rank this as high as I do because I find the weird, emo haircut amusing. That's all it has going for it. Johnbobb (91) - https://imgur.com/98QxLFK NFUN (92) - I'm sure bane loves this guy, but no. Some edgy teenage Pokemon are funny. This one is just sad Paratroopa1 (92) - its the best of its line uh, I guess Ermine (94) - Gross. --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 10/11/23 3:31:31 PM #193: |
Bad drops! Esp when Coalossal and the squirrels are still in
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LiquidOshawott 10/11/23 3:37:26 PM #194: |
Oh my low drops made it in
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skulltrumpets 10/11/23 3:56:50 PM #196: |
Hatenna falls into the category of "I think it is designed well, but I just can't like it." I just don't like some tropes and that's fine. Morgrem is mostly decent, but I struggle to show attachment to middle stages. Still sad to see it so low because the line is still good. Way better at being a dumb edgelord (complimentary) than Drizzile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DireKrow 10/11/23 4:07:44 PM #197: |
Stonjourner - Somehow both (way) too goofy and too boring for my taste. Really annoys me. Hate looking at it. Drizzile - I like the attitude a lot and lizards are cool. I don't like the mitten hands, nor the weirdly round head with a very "painted on features" look. Still fine overall. I probably slightly overrated this in my ranking, but I still feel this is out too early. Rolycoly - Strongly bores me - I want animals, not lumps of coal. Odd eye counts are a turn off. Hatenna - Bangs over both eyes is up there as one of my least favorite character design tropes. Always looks bad to me. Morgrem - Has grown on me. I probably slightly underrated it. I like the attitude and the edginess of the design and strikes the best balance of the family, I think. Impidimp is too "annoying" and Grimmsnarl is too "ugly", by comparison. Still pretty ugly, though. Drizzile is my highest drop so far at #37 and I still feel fairly negative about it. Granted, it prob should have been 40-45. But still, this generation really sucks. (And yet, Gen 9 is somehow even worse!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 10/11/23 4:17:24 PM #198: |
btw Steiner there's two "one-off rankings" columns in the spreadsheet.
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Steiner 10/11/23 4:18:52 PM #199: |
well you guys can edit it what do you want from me
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-hotdogturtle-- 10/11/23 4:22:07 PM #200: |
What's the friend/enemy thing? Certain thresholds for compatibility?
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