Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 4 (Remake)

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Antifar
10/30/23 8:27:58 PM
#151:


DnDer posted...
As long as they're around, he can gesture and say, "See? Imagine how much worse it'd be without me. Only I can keep you safe!"
Israelis have noticed, though, that he didn't keep them safe.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/most-israelis-think-netanyahu-responsible-failing-prevent-hamas-attack-poll-2023-10-20/

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ZechtAurion
10/30/23 8:34:14 PM
#152:


The Turkish Friendship Hospital for cancer patients just got bombed in Gaza.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17jy295/the_moment_the_turkish_friendship_hospital_for/
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name_unknown
10/30/23 8:41:21 PM
#153:


Israeli strike damages Gazas leading cancer hospital, hospital director says
From CNNs Kareem El Damanhoury, Gul Tuysuz, Ibrahim Dahman & Paul Murphy
An Israeli attack has damaged the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship Hospital, Gazas leading cancer hospital, director Sobhi Skaik told CNN on Monday.
The building suffered a direct hit to the third floor, Skaik said, causing damage to oxygen and water supplies but no injuries to people inside.
A video circulating on social media and geolocated by CNN showed smoke emerging from the hospitals central building.
The most severe damage is the anxiety and panic that afflicts patients, Skaik said. Today, there were people who fled the hospital because of what they saw.
CNN has asked the Israeli military for comment.
The hospital, which is located just to the south of Gaza City, was funded by the Turkish government, which expressed its anger over the strike in a statement from the Foreign Ministry.
There is no explanation for such an attack, even though all necessary information, including the coordinates of the institution in question was shared with the Israeli authorities in advance, said officials in Ankara, Turkey's capital.
Director Skaik said 200 people worked at the hospital, treating thousands of patients from across the strip each year.
He said the international community needed to do more to protect those most in need.
CNN so far saying no deaths from it.
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name_unknown
10/30/23 8:42:17 PM
#154:


Israel's prime minister rejects calls for ceasefire as ground operation intensifies. Here's what to know
From CNN staff
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made clear on Monday that Israel would not agree to a ceasefire as the country's ground operations in Gaza intensify. He said while the Bible says there is a time for peace, he said "this is a time for war."
Meanwhile, a Hamas spokesperson said Israel was not successful in entering Gaza "except in some limited areas" and described the humanitarian situation in the enclave as "disastrous."
The Israel Defense Forces has not released details about how far it has advanced, but it is clear that Israeli troops have established positions well within the strip, with CNN crews reporting armored personnel carriers moving inside the border fence on Monday.
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Nukazie
10/30/23 8:43:49 PM
#155:


thanks obama

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Ronaldo
10/30/23 9:31:41 PM
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The rise of antisemitic threats has been extremely concerning.
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NhojAnec
10/30/23 9:52:29 PM
#157:


i think it would behoove the pro-palestine protesters all across the world to come right out and say that they are not at all aligned with neo nazis! because a lot of dumb people out there think that pro-palestine people and neo-nazis are the same thing!

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ultimate_reaver
10/30/23 10:01:15 PM
#158:


NhojAnec posted...
i think it would behoove the pro-palestine protesters all across the world to come right out and say that they are not at all aligned with neo nazis! because a lot of dumb people out there think that pro-palestine people and neo-nazis are the same thing!

how many kids need to die before trolling this thread stops being funny

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NhojAnec
10/30/23 10:02:20 PM
#159:


ultimate_reaver posted...
how many kids need to die before trolling this thread stops being funny

im not trolling! antisemitism is at an all time high right now across the world! the vast majority of pro-palestine people dont have anything against jews......they just dont like the israeli government! but a lot of people think that if youre anti-israeli government then that makes you a neo-nazi!

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Zikten
10/30/23 10:08:56 PM
#160:


The real nazis are actually on Israel's side, apparently
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VFalcone
10/30/23 10:12:50 PM
#161:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Just more video evidence of war crimes.
https://twitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1719122544395976892
They aren't slamming on that gas pedal hard enough. I'd be doing 120 on that bitch after seeing that shit.
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squall567
10/30/23 10:14:11 PM
#162:


Ronaldo posted...
The rise of antisemitic threats has been extremely concerning.
The conflation of antisemitism and antizionism has been extremely concerning.
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NoMeLx22x
10/30/23 10:18:58 PM
#163:




ScazarMeltex posted...
Just more video evidence of war crimes.
https://twitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1719122544395976892


Just more human shields, right? That's what they'll say somehow. Or just call them hamas with no proof necessary or required and most will just take their word for it.

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VFalcone
10/30/23 11:30:03 PM
#164:


  • 8,306 Palestinians dead (PBS), including "more than 3,400" children (CBS), CNN says 3,500. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/live-updates-whats-happening-in-the-israel-hamas-war-israel-deepens-military-assault-in-gaza and https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-war-hamas-says-gaza-death-toll-8000-idf-ground-troops/
  • UN says 420 children are killed a day on average currently (CNBC) https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/30/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-on-gaza-conflict.html#107325772-post
  • 31 journalists killed in war so far. 4 Israeli, one Lebanese, and 26 Palestinian. With many more still missing. No wonder why it's so quiet over there. https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-30-23/index.html
  • "Pentagon says there are no limits on how Israel uses US weapons" https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-on-how-israel-uses-us-weapons-gaza-hamas-2023-10
  • [Unconfirmed] IDF intending on cutting off Gaza City from the south side https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1719067247774494758
  • Netanyahu says Israel will NOT agree to ceasefire https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1719067386010112129


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Trumble
10/31/23 12:37:59 AM
#165:


squall567 posted...
The conflation of antisemitism and antizionism has been extremely concerning.
It's no accident. It's an intentional strategy by Israel to downplay criticism.

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NhojAnec
10/31/23 12:48:12 AM
#166:


the man in this video is vile as fuck. it should be noted the man wasnt on the harvard campus when he said these awful things. it was next to harvard. and i quote:

'I love Hamas,' he shouted. 'I think Hamas should blow the s*** out of Israel.

'I think they're all dirty, dirty animals and they all deserve to die.'

He added: 'I think they should all be exterminated, every single one of them. And their kids, their mothers, their children, everybody.'

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1719105016114688036

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DepreceV2
10/31/23 1:20:30 AM
#167:


Since a ceasefire is off the table, is there any chance this war doesnt spread? There will horrific loss of life during this conflict. So many civilians will have deaths that could have been prevented. What are the odds that this war evolves into something much bigger?

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Zikten
10/31/23 1:21:27 AM
#168:


DepreceV2 posted...
Since a ceasefire is off the table, is there any chance this war doesnt spread? There will horrific loss of life during this conflict. So many civilians will have deaths that could have been prevented. What are the odds that this war evolves into something much bigger?
Depends on what Russia and Iran do
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NhojAnec
10/31/23 1:27:12 AM
#169:


Zikten posted...
Depends on what Russia and Iran do

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80607341

https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/116724/vladimir-putin-israel-enemy-russia-netanyahu

EXCLUSIVE: The Russian president "no longer cares for Netanyahu" as Russia's stance shifts in the Middle East, a former speechwriter has claimed.

Vladimir Putin turns on Netanyahu as he sees Israel 'as Russia's enemy'

Vladimir Putin 'Russia Can Make A Contribution To The Peace Process'

Vladimir Putin will now see Israel as an "enemy" as he moves closer to Iran and sides with Hamas in the Middle East, a former speechwriter for the Russian President tells Daily Express US.

Hamas has called Russia its closest friend as the terror group vows to release eight Russian hostages kidnapped during its October 7 attack in Israel.

i hope to god putin doesnt decide to actually start physically supporting hamas by sending them weapons and equipment

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Tora_Sami
10/31/23 1:56:55 AM
#170:


Holy crap! WW3 is slowly building up again. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

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Modifier
10/31/23 2:08:44 AM
#171:


Time to party like it's 2023.

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squall567
10/31/23 2:21:24 AM
#172:


NhojAnec posted...
the man in this video is vile as fuck. it should be noted the man wasnt on the harvard campus when he said these awful things. it was next to harvard. and i quote:

'I love Hamas,' he shouted. 'I think Hamas should blow the s*** out of Israel.

'I think they're all dirty, dirty animals and they all deserve to die.'

He added: 'I think they should all be exterminated, every single one of them. And their kids, their mothers, their children, everybody.'

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1719105016114688036
That's disgusting. How can he say the same thing as the Israeli Defence Minister and think he can get away with it? Who does he think he is?
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VFalcone
10/31/23 3:31:28 AM
#173:


Russia can't do anything to help anybody because they can't afford it lol. They're stuck paying for Ukraine full-time.
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Trumble
10/31/23 5:10:33 AM
#174:


VFalcone posted...
Russia can't do anything to help anybody because they can't afford it lol. They're stuck paying for Ukraine full-time.
They can veto stuff in the UN, but that's about it. (USA, UK, Russia, China and France all have this power.)

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punkfanalways
10/31/23 7:09:19 AM
#175:


Labour leader Kier Starmer says a ceasefire would have the potential to cause more violence. WTF.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/31/keir-starmer-israel-hamas-ceasefire-may-risk-further-violence

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FinalBraveNUT
10/31/23 7:46:48 AM
#176:


Modifier posted...
Time to party like it's 2023.

What?

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Strand
10/31/23 10:41:15 AM
#177:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
I wonder, have neo-Nazis ever shown up at any of these pro-Palestine protests? Because if God forbid that ever happens, I hope the pro-Palestine protesters tell those neo-Nazis to fuck right off and that they do NOT want the same things.

https://dailymontanan.com/2023/10/24/pro-palestinian-protesters-clash-with-white-supremacists-in-missoula-during-the-weekend/

They have shown up, trying to equate the protests with anti-Semitism.


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falayyou01
10/31/23 10:45:52 AM
#178:


I don't know if this has already been said but I don't know how any Israeli's can back Netanyahu at this point. Hamas was left to grow and proliferate by Israel under Bebe. Bebe's government wanted Hamas (as a radical fundamentalist group) to be a counterweight to the more secular PLO (Netanyahu said it himself), in order to obstruct the pathway towards any hopes of a two state solution. So in effect, Netanyahu's government allowed Hamas to do their own thing and either (1) under-estimated the threat Hamas posed, or (2) ignored them at their own peril; I don't know which is worse, because they were more concerned with Hezbollah. Now they're being hit with a war on multiple fronts that will be very costly in the long run. Both in terms of human lives on both sides and in terms of future economic resilience of Israel as a state, which was already on shaky foundations.

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NhojAnec
10/31/23 10:48:15 AM
#179:


Strand posted...
https://dailymontanan.com/2023/10/24/pro-palestinian-protesters-clash-with-white-supremacists-in-missoula-during-the-weekend/

They have shown up, trying to equate the protests with anti-Semitism.

reading that article filled me with joy! especially this part:

Thank you for coming out to support us today, said the man with the swastika and megaphone. We couldnt have done this without you.

After about 15 minutes into the encounter, the man holding the megaphone was arrested.

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CommonStar
10/31/23 11:35:11 AM
#180:


Israel just bombed another refugee camp
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1719366882560733225
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VFalcone
10/31/23 12:21:44 PM
#181:


CommonStar posted...
Israel just bombed another refugee camp
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1719366882560733225
Aerial view of the damage. Look at that crater and the surrounding area...
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1719373987010982225

It's just a wasteland...
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ironman2009
10/31/23 12:22:07 PM
#182:


Seems like Yemen is joining Hamas side.

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Starks
10/31/23 12:45:05 PM
#183:


Yemen or Houthi and the Blowfish?

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ironman2009
10/31/23 12:47:08 PM
#184:


Starks posted...
Yemen or Houthi and the Blowfish?

Oh true, should say Houthi

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falayyou01
10/31/23 12:49:20 PM
#185:


Israel Knows its mostly losing the PR war but it doesnt really seem to give a toss. So theyre going for broke at this point. All to destroy Hummus.

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Trelve
10/31/23 12:52:31 PM
#186:


falayyou01 posted...
All to destroy Hummus.
Bit extreme.
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SaikyoStyle
10/31/23 12:58:55 PM
#187:


Hummus is the only thing the two sides can actually agree on.

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10/31/23 1:07:03 PM
#188:


VFalcone posted...
Aerial view of the damage. Look at that crater and the surrounding area...
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1719373987010982225

It's just a wasteland...
Now this is a much bigger crater than the one near that hospital.

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falayyou01
10/31/23 1:36:31 PM
#189:


US under the instructions of Bebe is giving Israel a free pass to commit genocide and the UN is their b****at this point. If there's anything Ol Biden does know it's what "team" did it.

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Takuya_Lee
10/31/23 1:38:43 PM
#190:


SaikyoStyle posted...
Hummus is the only thing the two sides can actually agree on.

....are you sure? I wouldn't be surprised if they can't even agree on the flavor of the hummus.

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Starks
10/31/23 1:40:46 PM
#191:


One person or target should not condemn an entire building complex to death.

The "we ain't got to explain shit" attitudes need to stop.

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falayyou01
10/31/23 1:43:22 PM
#192:


Nothing's going to happen because the UN has no power and is a farcical organization controlled by nations with VETO power. So people just go there to sample the prawn cocktail and talk smack about each other or rub elbows with their buds.

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Xenogears15
10/31/23 1:48:51 PM
#193:


Starks posted...
One person or target should not condemn an entire building complex to death.

The "we ain't got to explain shit" attitudes need to stop.

I get the impression from a lot of my friends--who are pretty much all Reform Jews--that their own support for Israel is plummeting. It has been since oir childhood years and watching the IDF tear apart Gaza, but even worse now with the outright collective punishment and genocide.

Do you see the same in your own circles (I am under the assumption from your prior posts that you are Jewish, but I do not know whether you're Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, or Ultra Orthodox)?

I'm also seeing a large drop in support for Israel in the US. Never seen it this bad. From the right (mostly fueled by antisemitism), center (isolationism), and left (pro-Palestinian/anti-IDF/anti-settler/anti-apartheid). Antisemitism is on the rise everywhere else in the West too. I honestly don't know how much longer Israel can keep on counting on Western support if it keeps this shit up.

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Starks
10/31/23 1:48:55 PM
#194:


I'm secular, raised conservative.

https://twitter.com/ItayBlumental/status/1719408485266276800?s=20

Jabaliya: IDF forces under the command of the Givati Brigade took control of a Hamas military stronghold in Jabaliya and killed about 50 terrorists. There are shooting infrastructures and terrorist tunnels there that are used, among other things, for the terrorists to move to the coastal area. Many weapons used by the terrorists were located in the stronghold.

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falayyou01
10/31/23 1:52:44 PM
#195:


If theyre knocking Hamas, well and dandy but they need to stop killing so many kids too. Its not good for their reputation in the international community. Netanyahu was behind Hamas rise so hes beating up the monster he initially allowed to flourish.

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/31/23 2:20:48 PM
#196:


Takuya_Lee posted...
....are you sure? I wouldn't be surprised if they can't even agree on the flavor of the hummus.

Objectively, Arab hummus tastes better. You want the best food in the middle east? Find the hole in wall Palestinian shawarma restaurants in East Jerusalem, Jaffa, or the West Bank.


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Modifier
10/31/23 5:15:08 PM
#197:


FinalBraveNUT posted...
What?
You didn't get the point and i don't care to explain.

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Starks
10/31/23 5:51:55 PM
#198:


FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Objectively, Arab hummus tastes better. You want the best food in the middle east? Find the hole in wall Palestinian shawarma restaurants in East Jerusalem, Jaffa, or the West Bank.
I survived on all kinds of shawarma in Israel for Birthright. I couldn't tell the difference and I got from all kinds of vendors.

Coffee? The Bedouins do it best and it's not even close.

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VFalcone
10/31/23 6:06:48 PM
#199:


  • 8,525 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 21,543 injured (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/31/israel-war-hamas-gaza-news-palestine/
  • 121 Palestinians dead in West Bank (AJ) https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/31/israel-hamas-war-live-israeli-air-attacks-continue-across-gaza#:~:text=At%20least%208%2C525%20Palestinians%20have,have%20been%20killed%20in%20Israel.
  • At least 50 dead in refugee camp bombing. Still more to count. IDF takes responsibility. Says the bombing is a "tragedy of war".
  • 1,400-1,500 Israelis dead, 4,629 injured. Some IDF soldiers have been killed in Gaza combat (ABC) https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-egypt-russia-airport/?id=104468652
  • Israel restores Gaza's internet after pressure from the US. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/29/israel-war-hamas-gaza-news-palestine
  • Hezbollah's Twitter is SUSPENDED https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-771073
  • "Yemen's Houthis enter Mideast fray, hardening spillover fears" https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-enter-mideast-fray-hardening-spillover-fears-2023-10-31 Israel being attacked from Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and now Lebanon
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name_unknown
10/31/23 6:10:53 PM
#200:


Israel downplays intelligence ministry document that proposed relocating of millions of Gazans to Egypt
From CNN's Kyle Blaine and Kevin Flower
Israel's prime minister is downplaying a leaked intelligence ministry document that proposed the relocation of millions of Palestinians to the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.
"This is a preliminary paper, like dozens of such papers prepared by all political and security echelons, Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus office said in a statement. The day after is a topic that has not been discussed by official Israeli channels, which are now focused on dismantling Hamas' governing and military abilities."
The document is dated October 13 just days after the Hamas terror attack and was published on the website Sicha Mekomit. In it, the intelligence ministry lays out three options for dealing with civilians in Gaza after the Hamas attacks and the outbreak of war.
The papers authors concluded that Alternative C," which calls for relocating Gazas civilian population to the northern Sinai, would be best for Israels long-term security.
As part of the plan, tent cities would be constructed in the area, with more permanent cities being constructed at a later date. The plan also calls for a humanitarian corridor to aid the resettled population and a security perimeter to be created to prevent them from entering Israel.
The acknowledgment of the paper by the Israeli government will likely intensify suspicion amongst Arab nations in the region that Israel is deliberately trying to displace Palestinians permanently. Egypt and Jordan have warned that any plan to transfer Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank to their respective countries would escalate conflict in the region.
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