Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 6: Lifting us up where We belong

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Player List:

1. Enchantress (Lea)
2. Mzero
3. Lopen
4. Chaeix (JC)
5. Isquen
6. FD
7. Ulti
8. Dumey
9. Corrik
10. Red
11. Sultan
12. Kirby
13. Sir Chris

Updated Pairs (as of Topic 5, Post #437)

Paired
Lea and JC
Ulti and Sultan

Exes
Red and FD
Sultan and Chris
Kirby and Dumey

Open Offers
Red: Lea, Mzero, Lopen, JC, Isquen, FD, Dumey, Corrik, Sultan, Kirby, Chris
Isquen: Lopen, Mzero
FD: Lopen, Lea
Kirby: Lopen
Mzero: Kirby

Day 2 will end on tonight at 7pm Eastern.

As a second reminder, you are unable to pair up with the same date as yesterday. As such, the following pairs are not allowable today:

Night 1 Rooms:

Room 1: Red and Ulti
Room 2: MZero and Sultan
Room 3: Death and Sir Chris
Room 4: Isquen and Corrik
Room 5: Kirby and FD
Room 6: Lopen and Lea
Room 7: JC and Dumey

UltimaterializerX posted...

It was meta humor. I really am a regular vanilla.

Ulti claimed Vanilla

Aight but for real Corrik brought up a really good point

Scum is likelier to avoid the players who claimed (me, Ulti, JC, and apparently Corrik) in order to seek out power. I remember we were all surprised that Isquen turned down Ulti. Could it be that Isquen refused him to try and take a chance at pairing up with power?

Only hole there is that I can't remember if Ulti claimed after or before Isquen's declination

Corrik claimed??

Kirby321 posted...

Aight but for real Corrik brought up a really good point

Scum is likelier to avoid the players who claimed (me, Ulti, JC, and apparently Corrik) in order to seek out power. I remember we were all surprised that Isquen turned down Ulti. Could it be that Isquen refused him to try and take a chance at pairing up with power?

Only hole there is that I can't remember if Ulti claimed after or before Isquen's declination

Ulti claimed first. T5P102

And then Isquen's post was T5P143, only 14 minutes later <_<

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Ulti claimed first. T5P102

And then Isquen's post was T5P143, only 14 minutes later <_<

Isquen actually turned Ulti down in Topic 4 page 1 at the very start of the day

MZero posted...

Isquen actually turned Ulti down in Topic 4 page 1 at the very start of the day

Ah true, but that was a "I'm gonna leave you hanging for now". I was just counting the more definitive stance from yesterday, but you're right about the beginning of day conversation as well.

Anyways

##Date: Dumey

Unless you're gonna get back with Kirby what say we date?

Hmm... okay, so that's not necessarily a ding against Isquen then. I can't think of anyone else that's been actively avoiding people who claimed.

If someone doesn't love me in the next 30 minutes I'm shacking up with red tbh

Kirby321 posted...

Aight but for real Corrik brought up a really good point

Scum is likelier to avoid the players who claimed (me, Ulti, JC, and apparently Corrik) in order to seek out power. I remember we were all surprised that Isquen turned down Ulti. Could it be that Isquen refused him to try and take a chance at pairing up with power?

Only hole there is that I can't remember if Ulti claimed after or before Isquen's declination

Too lazy to go back and find the origin so apologies if this was Corriks basis and Im just repeating, but Deaths flip has me thinking scum might have a role that is reliant on being partnered with someone so that logic fits from that perspective

You could potentially argue that since Death protected his roommate, scum might fear that any scanners work the same way and avoid the unclaimed if anything.

MZero posted...

If someone doesn't love me in the next 30 minutes I'm shacking up with red tbh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/60eea3f2.jpg

What are the claims

Are all of them Vanilla?

Sorry mzero I need the power to assassinate

Sorry Kirby I need the person to assassinate

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

What are the claims

Are all of them Vanilla?

JC/Ulti/Kirby Vanilla
Lea Miller

Should be all unless I missed anything.

I'm fine with shipping MZero and Red, for timezone reasons. Also fine with both of them. Town wise I mean - I didn't really care for the Red vs Lopen dick measuring contest part so much.

We really just need to murder Ulti

How many things he gotta do exactly like last game for people to buy it

Lopen posted...

Sorry mzero I need the power to assassinate

Sorry Kirby I need the person to assassinate

Yeah, I understand you are waiting to use your date as a weapon, but I have to feel like that's not the optimal way to use it.

I'd rather see the most clear people taken off the board, and gain information from observing the rest of the pool in terms of who they are willing to pair with and who they aren't. That way even if it results in a town flip there will good interactions among those most likely to be scum.

Oh yeah Leas Miller claim was also a reason I was suspect of Lea a little making the Read go down to lean over Town. lol I'm so scatter brain

Lea don't want to Date me anyways soo

Lopen posted...

We really just need to murder Ulti

How many things he gotta do exactly like last game for people to buy it

You know I'm okay with this.. if nothing else give us some good info either flip.

##Date:Chris

I'm sorry senpai take me back please @SirChris

Forceful_Dragon posted...

but I have to feel like that's not the optimal way to use it.

Worked yesterday

Sultan you have to ##Breakup

##Date: MZero

I'll be honest, you aren't my first choice, but red is expected to be back before EoD so I'd like his hat to stay in the ring.

I'm okay with MZero dating either FD or Red.

Enchantress posted...

You could potentially argue that since Death protected his roommate, scum might fear that any scanners work the same way and avoid the unclaimed if anything.

True

Lopen posted...

Sultan you have to ##Breakup

Do I? I thought I still had an open Invite with Chris?

##Breakup
##Date:Chris

either way.

ifChris doesn't take me hopefully I have other options lol

I believe Chris would have to have sent you a new request since you broke up with him, which he has not.

Lopen posted...

Sorry mzero I need the power to assassinate

Sorry Kirby I need the person to assassinate

Lame. Don't get yourself killed

So Sultan

Why should anyone pair up with you? Desperate for a date, I see, but what do you offer to the table?

I think Ulti playing mega suck up to red is probably a pocketing attempt

Feels more likely than him genuinely being that impressed

Course Ulti can pocket as town but yeah. It's just a lot of self preservation for a vanilla.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Working in foster care had a couple of Children be in Crisis soo yeah.

Lea was a town read for me yesterday and mostly today I did down grade to a lean beacuse her chaos eod seemed like a town incentive but idk who said it but I could have been a scum ploy that backfired.
So it makes me hesitant slightly but only thing that make me flip completely would be a Kirby Scum flip.
Scum was all in the bottom other than Lea and she tried to shake things up and still ended up losing her team mate.

Her being scum is alot of Ifs, if that makes sense

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Oh yeah Leas Miller claim was also a reason I was suspect of Lea a little making the Read go down to lean over Town. lol I'm so scatter brain

Lea don't want to Date me anyways soo

I only see explanations of why you doubt Lea here, what gave you the initial town read? Her End of Day? Or just player feel? Even Lea said in her Miller joke to Lopen that she found it funny because she didn't really do anything D1 until the final shuffle.

Kirby321 posted...

Lame. Don't get yourself killed

I am at zero risk of dying. You don't believe this.

Kirby321 posted...

So Sultan

Why should anyone pair up with you? Desperate for a date, I see, but what do you offer to the table?

I'm town and I can collaborate with my roommate to help them solve. I have good reads as town and sometimes I can't express them the greatest. So if I got a good date I can trust we can but it up.

I'm not desperate if I die I die.

It's amazing Kirby is saying Sultan is desperate for a date when he literally had a date at the start of the topic

Speaking of things said that he doesn't believe

EDumey posted...

I only see explanations of why you doubt Lea here, what gave you the initial town read? Her End of Day? Or just player feel? Even Lea said in her Miller joke to Lopen that she found it funny because she didn't really do anything D1 until the final shuffle.

Yes her end of day seemed like it came from a town Lea mind. Like I said only way she does that as scum is if all her teammates were on the chopping block and that's a big IF and makes her exposed

I mean I would really like to kill Kirby

It's my birthday today. It would be the best gift ever.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You know I'm okay with this.. if nothing else give us some good info either flip.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Sir Chris- still got a sinking feeling could be scum

Why Chris?

##Date: FD

Works for me plz don't dump me before the 6 hour cutoff I'm going to sleep soon

Could catch mzero

Why Chris

Lopen posted...

It's my birthday today. It would be the best gift ever.

hell yeah March birthday gang

No worries MZero. I look forward to our night together <3

Lopen posted...

Could catch mzero

Why Chris

It stuck out to me because Chris has been like the only scum read he's been committed to

Say it ain't so Sulty...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I'm town and I can collaborate with my roommate to help them solve. I have good reads as town and sometimes I can't express them the greatest. So if I got a good date I can trust we can but it up.

I'm not desperate if I die I die.

You're not desperate, you say? You had these options available to you:

Lopen- Town
FD- Seems Towny. His attack on me for being lazy was pretty good
Ulti- idk i want to say this is town Ulti but I'm not 100 sold hence why I accepted the date originally.
Dumey- still think Dumey is pretty towny
Corrik- POE/Null
Red- ??? How many times I've played with red idk how to read red but I think some of his play comes off as towny and is to bold to be scum. Played with scum red he was pretty cautious from what I remember
Kirby- need a reread tbh
Sir Chris- still got a sinking feeling could be scum

So many options with people you think are town, the most obvious being Lopen.

So why on earth are you trying to pair up with somebody you think could be scum?

Kirby saying Sultan was "desperate for a date" pinged me too because Sultan had literally just had a date. Kirby is talking out of both sides of his mouth-- I wonder if that's him suspecting his scummate due to being informed.

I always thought Sultan randomly dating Ulti could have been a pocket attempt too.

Maybe it's just Kirby x Sultan. You know like sure I'll throw him in my possible lynch pile, mzero. I will.

If you want to avoid sinking feelings pull yourself up from your boot straps

Nice pivot from Kirby but I don't buy that's what he meant to begin with

Lopen posted...

Kirby saying Sultan was "desperate for a date" pinged me too because Sultan had literally just had a date. Kirby is talking out of both sides of his mouth-- I wonder if that's him suspecting his scummate due to being informed.

well technically until the 6 hour mark no one really has a date. Ulti could have tossed him out like yesterday's garbage at any moment