Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 6: Lifting us up where We belong

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Er Dumey would be number 2

Behind Peaf

Lopen posted...

Corrik or Isquen please accept Red's invite

Meh

Forceful_Dragon posted...

But that would definitely be an awful idea and not worth the risk, lol

That's the BEST idea

Isquen posted...

I do not want to lock into a toxic relationship. Sultan I have difficulty reading and I imagine the conversation would be equally as dull as last night, Red I would probably say more to but I do not trust the mass invites. Kirby has just looked straight awful every time he talked, but since it's Kirby, it's NAI. Ulti is being gregarious as usual but I did feel strong pocketing vibes. And it's unfortunate player meta, but I will NEVER trust Chris until proven innocent by multiple sources.

Conspiracy brain is going Red/Corrik is a scum scum pairing and Corrik's just waiting for the lock-in, and I'm trying to smack that one down, but it keeps eating the back of my mind.

Just date Lopen then. You have my stamp of approval. Lopen will talk to you and is likely town. Just try to have him talk about YOUR reads, rather than let him convince you of his rabbit holes.

I *did* put out the invite, it's up to him.

oh. fair enough.

Who wants to partner with Corrik and have a nice quiet night?

Isquen posted...

Kirby has just looked straight awful every time he talked, but since it's Kirby, it's NAI.

Honestly, I'm not even offended. I love how brutally honest you are

My rabbit hole is pretty shallow right now. Its literally a web of 3 people.

I think it's Dumey and Ulti now and I screwed up.

Paired
Lea and JC
FD and MZero
Sultan and Sir Chris
Ulti and Dumey

Exes
Red and FD
Sultan and Chris
Kirby and Dumey
Ulti and Sultan
Kirby and Ulti
Ulti and Dumey
Ulti and Dumey

Open Offers
Red: Lea, Mzero, Lopen, JC, Isquen, FD, Dumey, Corrik, Sultan, Kirby, Chris
Isquen: Lopen, Mzero
Kirby: Dumey, Lopen

Unpaired
Lopen
Isquen
Corrik
Red
Kirby

It is now 1pm. Breakups must be consensual.

changmas posted...

Paired
Lea and JC
FD and MZero
Sultan and Sir Chris
Ulti and Dumey

Exes
Red and FD
Sultan and Chris
Kirby and Dumey
Ulti and Sultan
Kirby and Ulti
Ulti and Dumey
Ulti and Dumey

I mean, that's pretty funny at least.

Isquen claim

changmas posted...

Paired
Lea and JC
FD and MZero
Sultan and Sir Chris
Ulti and Dumey

Exes
Red and FD
Sultan and Chris
Kirby and Dumey
Ulti and Sultan
Kirby and Ulti
Ulti and Dumey
Ulti and Dumey

Is this what a toxic relationship looks like?

EDumey posted...

Kirby lets take a second before consensual breakups are required, and view what the possibilities here assuming no major shakeups.

Pairs:

Lea + JC
FD + MZero
Sultan + Sir Chris
Ulti + Kirby

Unpaired:
Lopen, Isquen, Dumey, Corrik, Red

FD and MZero are locked. Lea JC has no reason to breakup except to cause chaos. I don't think Lea is looking to repeat after some of the suspicion she's got on her today. Sultan has made a lot of changes today, but I can see him landing on Chris for good here.

Out of the final 5, I think Lopen and Red are town, and I would look to date one of the two. Lets say I date Red, and that leaves Lopen to hopefully decide between Isquen and Corrik. Are either of those more worthwhile lynches than Ulti?

To be clear, I don't necessarily think Ulti is scum either, but it may be better odds following Lopen's arguments on Ulti here and getting some info out of Ulti's flip, rather than a random shot at Isquen or Corrik.

I guess what I'm asking you here Kirby, is after you went after Sultan for saving Chris, are you comfortable saving Ulti over Isquen or Corrik?

Really weird date for Dumey to be locked into with this post in mind btw

Actually, I have a question for the room. Did anyone (other than Lea) flat out claim a role to their private partner? Don't out your partner's role, but I'm curious who was open with their lover and who was tight-lipped.

I neither outed my role to Corrik, and very obviously, Corrik didn't either.

Lopen posted...

Really weird date for Dumey to be locked into with this post in mind btw

Scum can't go below 2 or they lose bruh

Lopen posted...

To be clear, I don't necessarily think Ulti is scum either, but it may be better odds following Lopen's arguments on Ulti here and getting some info out of Ulti's flip, rather than a random shot at Isquen or Corrik.

Like this in particular says that Dumey should aim to pair with Isquen or Corrik

Lopen posted...

Really weird date for Dumey to be locked into with this post in mind btw

Can you at least acknowledge the strategy I laid out very clearly when extending a date to Ulti? Maybe you don't believe it, but I feel like you'd have to be willfully ignorant to at least not acknowledge it.

I also tried to appeal to both Chris and JC to put Sultan and Lea back into the pool. Stop trying to shove the square peg in the round hole.

Lopen posted...

Like this in particular says that Dumey should aim to pair with Isquen or Corrik

Tell me the reason why I stated to date Ulti, and what the natural consequence of it is if Isquen or Corrik claim before end of day?

How funny would it be if I got left unpaired again and we get a repeat of EoD D1 and somehow kill scum again lmao

I could also just date Red real quick and watch Lopen go berserk. That'd be funny, too.

Kirby321 posted...

How funny would it be if I got left unpaired again and we get a repeat of EoD D1 and somehow kill scum again lmao

I could also just date Red real quick and watch Lopen go berserk. That'd be funny, too.

Then why don't you

I think the funniest thing will be if Ulti played Dumey and he doesn't come back until EoD

Corrik7 posted...

Then why don't you

Because if all five of us are town, I'd rather it be me dead than an unclaimed power role or otherwise forcing them to claim and expose themselves

lmao i did consider that an option, but i figure if ulti doesn't hold his word on that, then he is throwing the game because he will lose all credibility.

Kirby321 posted...

Because if all five of us are town, I'd rather it be me dead than an unclaimed power role or otherwise forcing them to claim and expose themselves

We are in this scenario to out claims. Not to prevent them.

Red and isquen claim

Corrik claim then or take a date.

EDumey posted...

Corrik claim then or take a date.

Meh

Meh, I'll just let you figure it out with them. I need to work more this afternoon anyway.

Lopen the biggest thing I don't follow about your logic is the fact that you've said a few times (I think) that Peaf thought Kirby was an easy banked date for him when he broke up with Dumey. Why would Peaf think Kirby was an easy date when I had broken up with Lea for him at Lea's instruction? IIRC we broke up before Dumey/Kirby or am I wrong about that? I've played most of this game in a haze.

Also fwiw me and Peaf both breaking up to court Kirby as scumbuddies would be silly.

Maybe you should claim cuz you acted scummy before the lock hit.

The big question is why Dumey thought Ulti was trustworthy when he had played the game to this point trying to keep himself alive above all other things

Dumey just claimed scum I think

Chaeix posted...

Lopen the biggest thing I don't follow about your logic is the fact that you've said a few times (I think) that Peaf thought Kirby was an easy banked date for him when he broke up with Dumey.

Didn't say that

The first thing to resolve is why the gambit is done in the first place

Peaf acting alone isn't sensible

Corrik7 posted...

Red and isquen claim

corrik v red claim battle go

Lopen posted...

Didn't say that

The first thing to resolve is why the gambit is done in the first place

Peaf acting alone isn't sensible

Lopen posted...

Like basically it went

Peaf breaks up to try and steal Kirby from JC

Then FD and I break up

Now everybody has a bunch of options all of a sudden and Peaf is hosed

lopen

Chaeix posted...

corrik v red claim battle go

I already have a pretty good idea of what that will look like:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4cfc3f43.png

Would really suck if someone forced themselves on ulti at the buzzer and left dumey and two others in a tizzy.

Corrik7 posted...

Would really suck if someone forced themselves on ulti at the buzzer and left dumey and two others in a tizzy.

are you claiming like, town... snowplow? trying to think of an appropriate metaphor

Chaeix posted...

lopen

JC

That's why he got stuck

But what makes him scum is "why do it to begin with"

town.. home wrecker?

Chaeix posted...

are you claiming like, town... snowplow? trying to think of an appropriate metaphor

I'm not claiming anything but it would effectively be a town mayor.

Lopen posted...

JC

That's why he got stuck

But what makes him scum is "why do it to begin with"

i think where we're diverging is 'because he thought peaf was an easy partner' is a satisfactory answer for me, which i believe was red's position?

Who said there was no godfather in this game? Someone said it. Can someone tell me who?

Corrik7 posted...

Who said there was no godfather in this game? Someone said it. Can someone tell me who?

Ulti is convinced there cannot be miller or godfather.

Chaeix posted...

i think where we're diverging is 'because he thought peaf was an easy partner' is a satisfactory answer for me, which i believe was red's position?

Why does Peaf gambit at all if Dumey and Kirby and JC and Lea are town. It's too suicidal

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Ulti is convinced there cannot be miller or godfather.

Ulti may very well be scum then

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I already have a pretty good idea of what that will look like:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4cfc3f43.png

Lmao. I hope FD being hilarious isn't a scum tell because he's killing it this game.

I was at the dentist, but JC if you want to throw me into the pool please feel free, you helped me out D1 and I'm happy to return the favor.

Claiming Miller post 1 is a coward's play. It's for people who are incapable of demonstrating towniness in topic to avoid being scanned. By delaying the claim, you can draw a night kill, not help scum narrow down power, and allow scum a chance to fake claim and potentially get caught out. There is no reason to need scan protection with a fake claim with a devastating D1 bus, it is redundant. Tacky. Hyper fixating on "scanning guilty" is just the most intellectually lazy course you can possibly take.

Lopen posted...

Why does Peaf gambit at all if Dumey and Kirby and JC and Lea are town. It's too suicidal

but what would he be relying on his scumbuddy to do in that situation if not pair up with him? why risk the exposure unless your scumbuddy is your life raft? like your argument relies on one of his scumbuddies just leaving him completely hanging with a good role and a bad claim

Lea the only person I'd break up with you for right now is Kirby, if he really would prefer I spend the night with him.

So bear with me. A cop who can target across rooms all game is too strong with a game of 3 scum. The cop would have to be like a 1 shot room scan.

Which there is no way the cop wouldn't have claimed today with a spent power and the checks to give out and go to the grave with.

Thus, I am feeling there is not actually a cop, and by extension, very well likely not a godfather either. Which Ulti knew because there is no reason at all to assume there is no godfather in a game.

Someone with possibly too much knowledge acting like they theorized it.