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IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:35:29 PM #1:	Topic. - Results (294 votes) Yes. 33.67% (99 votes) 99 No. 66.33% (195 votes) 195 We're having a boy, with a scheduled delivery date of May. We're starting to be asked by the OBGYNs if we're planning on circumcising or not. We spoke to 4 different OBGYNs and here's the general medical consensus from them: Circumcision will be done by the OBGYN the day after the birth. The operation: Baby will be given a pacifier dipped in sugar water, and a special swaddle will be used that is only for the upper half of the body. The legs will be held down by straps. The penis will be sterilized and then a numbing agent will be applied onto the penis (it's a cream-like substance, and not a shot). After waiting ~5 minutes for the numbing agent to take into effect, a tool will be placed over the penis to guide the cut, cut will occur, then clamped back. No stitching is required. Apparently, the most bleeding you'd expect is also a drop or so; and most babies undergoing circumcision don't even cry or show any discomfort. This seems hard to believe, but all 4 of our OBGYNs said this. Recovery: Gland will be swollen and may start crusting. No baths or showers allowed until fully healed. For the first 5 days, at every diaper change, use warm water and a sponge to lightly dab the penis, and cover with Vaseline to prevent sticking onto diaper. After the first 5 days, and until fully healed, wash at least once a day. Once fully healed (estimated to be between 7 to 14 days), bathing is acceptable. Complications: The surgery itself- extremely rare; if anything happens, follow-up surgery may be required, but not by the OBGYN, but by a urologist. Most likely complication will result in follow-up surgery within the first 5 years due to skin fusing incorrectly to the gland. Recovery- Bacterial infection is extremely unlikely (also hard to believe???). Benefits: The older OBGYNs seem to point out that there are a lot more medical benefits; they point out that having a foreskin could lead to problems with retraction due to improper "un-fusing" of the foreskin with the gland or the foreskin being too tight, infections due to poor hygiene, and higher STD rates. The younger OBGYNs seem to point out that it's largely social and visual preference. Regardless, all OBGYNs stated that if you don't do circumcision within the first few days of being born, the procedure gets significantly more complicated and will require general anaesthetic. ........thoughts, GameFAQs? Personally, I thought circumcision would have much higher chance of complications and the baby will be tortured/hate it. But all OBGYNs that we talked to say that most babies literally sleep through the entire operation and the ones that don't are just fussy (and not screaming/crying). Given that, I feel like doing it is a no-brainer, since complications with a foreskin later on in-life is a thing. --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259511] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote> Topic. - Results (294 votes) Yes. 33.67% (99 votes) 99 No. 66.33% (195 votes) 195 Show Voting Form We're having a boy, with a scheduled delivery date of May. We're starting to be asked by the OBGYNs if we're planning on circumcising or not. We spoke to 4 different OBGYNs and here's the general medical consensus from them:Circumcision will be done by the OBGYN the day after the birth.The operation: Baby will be given a pacifier dipped in sugar water, and a special swaddle will be used that is only for the upper half of the body. The legs will be held down by straps. The penis will be sterilized and then a numbing agent will be applied onto the penis (it's a cream-like substance, and not a shot). After waiting ~5 minutes for the numbing agent to take into effect, a tool will be placed over the penis to guide the cut, cut will occur, then clamped back. No stitching is required. Apparently, the most bleeding you'd expect is also a drop or so; and most babies undergoing circumcision don't even cry or show any discomfort. This seems hard to believe, but all 4 of our OBGYNs said this.Recovery: Gland will be swollen and may start crusting. No baths or showers allowed until fully healed. For the first 5 days, at every diaper change, use warm water and a sponge to lightly dab the penis, and cover with Vaseline to prevent sticking onto diaper. After the first 5 days, and until fully healed, wash at least once a day. Once fully healed (estimated to be between 7 to 14 days), bathing is acceptable.Complications: The surgery itself- extremely rare; if anything happens, follow-up surgery may be required, but not by the OBGYN, but by a urologist. Most likely complication will result in follow-up surgery within the first 5 years due to skin fusing incorrectly to the gland. Recovery- Bacterial infection is extremely unlikely (also hard to believe???).Benefits: The older OBGYNs seem to point out that there are a lot more medical benefits; they point out that having a foreskin could lead to problems with retraction due to improper "un-fusing" of the foreskin with the gland or the foreskin being too tight, infections due to poor hygiene, and higher STD rates. The younger OBGYNs seem to point out that it's largely social and visual preference. Regardless, all OBGYNs stated that if you don't do circumcision within the first few days of being born, the procedure gets significantly more complicated and will require general anaesthetic. ........thoughts, GameFAQs?Personally, I thought circumcision would have much higher chance of complications and the baby will be tortured/hate it. But all OBGYNs that we talked to say that most babies literally sleep through the entire operation and the ones that don't are just fussy (and not screaming/crying). Given that, I feel like doing it is a no-brainer, since complications with a foreskin later on in-life is a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimeForAction 03/08/24 12:35:58 PM #2:	Cut em up <cite>TimeForAction posted [p:979259523] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Cut em up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/08/24 12:37:28 PM #3:	never thought I'd see a fairly detailed breakdown of infant circumcision on gamefaqs but here we are --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:979259545] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>never thought I'd see a fairly detailed breakdown of infant circumcision on gamefaqs but here we are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 03/08/24 12:38:01 PM #4:	IdiotMachine posted... complications with a foreskin later on in-life is a thing. Good hygiene for the win. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:979259558] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>complications with a foreskin later on in-life is a thing.</quote>Good hygiene for the win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 03/08/24 12:38:44 PM #5:	wackyteen posted... never thought I'd see a fairly detailed breakdown of infant circumcision on gamefaqs but here we are isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:979259571] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>never thought I'd see a fairly detailed breakdown of infant circumcision on gamefaqs but here we are</quote>isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOPPAl 03/08/24 12:39:38 PM #6:	I'm glad I got my dick hood cut. My shit feels good --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonOPPAl posted [p:979259588] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I'm glad I got my dick hood cut. My shit feels good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/08/24 12:39:58 PM #7:	UT1999 posted... isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason I'm not even sure its religious reasoning for Americans nowadays. <_< It's just the norm, now. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:979259596] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>UT1999 posted... </cite><quote>isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason</quote>I'm not even sure its religious reasoning for Americans nowadays. <_<It's just the norm, now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 03/08/24 12:40:33 PM #8:	UT1999 posted... isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979259606] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>UT1999 posted... </cite><quote>isn't it done for mostly religious reasons? maybe almost entirely for this reason</quote>I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 03/08/24 12:41:06 PM #9:	NeonOPPAl posted... I'm glad I got my dick hood cut. My shit feels good You shouldn't be sticking your dick in your shit. That's unhygienic, circumcized or not. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:979259619] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>NeonOPPAl posted... </cite><quote>I'm glad I got my dick hood cut. My shit feels good</quote>You shouldn't be sticking your dick in your shit. That's unhygienic, circumcized or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scintillant 03/08/24 12:41:28 PM #10:	There are complications with all of our body parts, there's really no need to cut it off. --- whats cat up to <cite>Scintillant posted [p:979259628] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>There are complications with all of our body parts, there's really no need to cut it off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:42:13 PM #12:	Scardude posted... I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age. This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259644] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age.</quote>This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThunderTrain 03/08/24 12:44:02 PM #13:	End genital mutilation --- I used to be a blackjack dealer on a riverboat named Black Sally's Apple. It was a very low point in my life <cite>ThunderTrain posted [p:979259675] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>End genital mutilation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 03/08/24 12:45:39 PM #14:	How do Republicans feel about circumcision? Do they want them to wait until they're 18? --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979259695] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>How do Republicans feel about circumcision? Do they want them to wait until they're 18? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 03/08/24 12:46:14 PM #15:	Scardude posted... I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age. What are those medical reasons? --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:979259711] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>I'm going to get it as medical reasons in my adult age.</quote>What are those medical reasons? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:47:14 PM #16:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] My firstborn was a girl and she had severe tongue tie. On day 3 of her life, we went to an oral surgeon to get it corrected. Once we got into the room, which looked like any pediatrician room, the oral surgeon came in and asked for final approval. Once we approved, he took her, turned 180, brought her over to an examination table, opened a brand new knife out, opened her mouth, and just cut the tie! No creams, no shots, nothing. I was thinking what the fuck just happened. Our baby didnt even wake up, didnt cry, there was no blood in her mouth, and it was all over. I later found out for tongue tie, if you do it later than a week or so after the babys life, its a lot more involved. This experience is making me believe the OBGYNs statement that there is no pain for a brand-new newborn. --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259723] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> My firstborn was a girl and she had severe tongue tie. On day 3 of her life, we went to an oral surgeon to get it corrected. Once we got into the room, which looked like any pediatrician room, the oral surgeon came in and asked for final approval. Once we approved, he took her, turned 180, brought her over to an examination table, opened a brand new knife out, opened her mouth, and just cut the tie! No creams, no shots, nothing. I was thinking what the fuck just happened. Our baby didnt even wake up, didnt cry, there was no blood in her mouth, and it was all over.I later found out for tongue tie, if you do it later than a week or so after the babys life, its a lot more involved. This experience is making me believe the OBGYNs statement that there is no pain for a brand-new newborn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snae99 03/08/24 12:47:26 PM #17:	Completely unnecessary. --- Currently playing: Nothing <cite>snae99 posted [p:979259730] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Completely unnecessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 03/08/24 12:47:57 PM #18:	I'd say leave it and let him decide for himself, no real harm in waiting. If he's self conscious about it, he can get it done later in life. <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:979259737] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I'd say leave it and let him decide for himself, no real harm in waiting.If he's self conscious about it, he can get it done later in life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 03/08/24 12:47:58 PM #19:	Do whatever you and your partner wants TC. There are non religious reasons to do it, and that's a discussion for you two. I highly doubt your son is going to be devestated over whatever you choose. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:979259738] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Do whatever you and your partner wants TC. There are non religious reasons to do it, and that's a discussion for you two.I highly doubt your son is going to be devestated over whatever you choose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nirvanas_Nox 03/08/24 12:48:27 PM #20:	I'd say let your son make that decision for himself. --- Kee Oth Rama Pancake <cite>Nirvanas_Nox posted [p:979259750] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I'd say let your son make that decision for himself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:49:10 PM #21:	pretzelcoatl posted... I'd say leave it and let him decide for himself, no real harm in waiting. There's tons of harm in waiting. --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259762] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>pretzelcoatl posted... </cite><quote>I'd say leave it and let him decide for himself, no real harm in waiting.</quote>There's tons of harm in waiting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/08/24 12:49:15 PM #22:	IdiotMachine posted... My firstborn was a girl and she had severe tongue tie. On day 3 of her life, we went to an oral surgeon to get it corrected. Once we got into the room, which looked like any pediatrician room, the oral surgeon came in and asked for final approval. Once we approved, he took her, turned 180, brought her over to an examination table, opened a brand new knife out, opened her mouth, and just cut the tie! No creams, no shots, nothing. I was thinking what the fuck just happened. Our baby didnt even wake up, didnt cry, there was no blood in her mouth, and it was all over. I later found out for tongue tie, if you do it later than a week or so after the babys life, its a lot more involved. This experience is making me believe the OBGYNs statement that there is no pain for a brand-new newborn. That's fucking crazy. <_< anyways, as someone who was cut without consent, I'd at least have liked the choice. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:979259763] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>My firstborn was a girl and she had severe tongue tie. On day 3 of her life, we went to an oral surgeon to get it corrected. Once we got into the room, which looked like any pediatrician room, the oral surgeon came in and asked for final approval. Once we approved, he took her, turned 180, brought her over to an examination table, opened a brand new knife out, opened her mouth, and just cut the tie! No creams, no shots, nothing. I was thinking what the fuck just happened. Our baby didnt even wake up, didnt cry, there was no blood in her mouth, and it was all over.I later found out for tongue tie, if you do it later than a week or so after the babys life, its a lot more involved. This experience is making me believe the OBGYNs statement that there is no pain for a brand-new newborn.</quote>That's fucking crazy. <_<anyways, as someone who was cut without consent, I'd at least have liked the choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 03/08/24 12:49:36 PM #23:	"well as long as he doesn't react to getting part of his penis cut off it's okay" --- just another freak in the freak kingdom <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:979259771] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>"well as long as he doesn't react to getting part of his penis cut off it's okay" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/08/24 12:49:59 PM #24:	IdiotMachine posted... There's tons of harm in waiting. Potential harm. There's a lot of potential danger in going out for a drive to get food. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:979259785] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>There's tons of harm in waiting.</quote>Potential harm.There's a lot of potential danger in going out for a drive to get food. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 03/08/24 12:51:07 PM #25:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... What are those medical reasons? Between my doctor and myself. Thanks for asking. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979259801] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>What are those medical reasons?</quote>Between my doctor and myself. Thanks for asking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/08/24 12:51:30 PM #26:	Americans, smh. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979259809] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Americans, smh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 03/08/24 12:52:30 PM #27:	Scardude posted... Between my doctor and myself. Thanks for asking. Hope it goes well for you. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:979259836] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>Between my doctor and myself. Thanks for asking.</quote>Hope it goes well for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:53:02 PM #28:	Freddie_Mercury posted... "well as long as he doesn't react to getting part of his penis cut off it's okay" lol. So here's my thoughts: 1) Assume the fact that getting circumcision at day 2 of life = no pain is true (per OBGYN's statements that babies don't react). 2) If you need to get a circumcision later in life, the surgery is significantly more involved, and will have higher chances of complications. 3) If you don't have a foreskin, complications with foreskin issues go away, and thus you would never have to deal with Item #2 above. So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life? --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259847] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Freddie_Mercury posted... </cite><quote>"well as long as he doesn't react to getting part of his penis cut off it's okay"</quote>lol.So here's my thoughts:1) Assume the fact that getting circumcision at day 2 of life = no pain is true (per OBGYN's statements that babies don't react).2) If you need to get a circumcision later in life, the surgery is significantly more involved, and will have higher chances of complications.3) If you don't have a foreskin, complications with foreskin issues go away, and thus you would never have to deal with Item #2 above.So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rai_Jin 03/08/24 12:53:12 PM #29:	https://prnt.sc/ThWjz61F9qi7 <cite>Rai_Jin posted [p:979259853] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>https://prnt.sc/ThWjz61F9qi7</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/08/24 12:55:28 PM #30:	IdiotMachine posted... So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life? There are no fucking complications unless you don't teach your kid how to wash himself properly, ffs. Your bullshit American propaganda wants you to believe that every other man would have issues, while the more realistic number is like 1 in 50. So yeah, if you want to avoid 2% chance of something bad potentially happening due to genetic disorder, go for it. Might aswell take out his appendix right away and wisdom teeth as they start growing, just to make sure. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979259904] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life?</quote>There are no fucking complications unless you don't teach your kid how to wash himself properly, ffs.Your bullshit American propaganda wants you to believe that every other man would have issues, while the more realistic number is like 1 in 50.So yeah, if you want to avoid 2% chance of something bad potentially happening due to genetic disorder, go for it.Might aswell take out his appendix right away and wisdom teeth as they start growing, just to make sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 03/08/24 12:56:45 PM #31:	IdiotMachine posted... So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life? And to answer this question logically, I'd have to compare two sets of data- probability of complications due to circumcision at birth vs. probability of complications of having a foreskin. I have no sense of these likelihoods... as I mentioned, the older OBGYNs seem to believe circumcision is better, with the younger ones seeming to believe it's social preference. --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:979259929] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>So the question for me is- is it worth getting circumcision when it's easy to do to avoid complications with foreskins later in life?</quote>And to answer this question logically, I'd have to compare two sets of data- probability of complications due to circumcision at birth vs. probability of complications of having a foreskin. I have no sense of these likelihoods... as I mentioned, the older OBGYNs seem to believe circumcision is better, with the younger ones seeming to believe it's social preference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/08/24 12:58:30 PM #32:	I can never find myself to see this as a real concerning issue. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979259958] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I can never find myself to see this as a real concerning issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 03/08/24 12:58:48 PM #33:	ItsNotA2Mer posted... Hope it goes well for you. Shall see. I'm not paying for the procedure and its covered by the province. IdiotMachine posted... This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices Honestly, I'm going for the procedure but until it happens. All I can say is that I don't look forward to it as an adult. Prior to needing it done, it didn't really impact my life in any way. So you are fine either way. Something to consider. Recovery for an adult is 6 weeks to 6 months. 6 weeks to gym again and 6 months for full recovery around the area. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979259964] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>ItsNotA2Mer posted... </cite><quote>Hope it goes well for you.</quote>Shall see. I'm not paying for the procedure and its covered by the province. IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices</quote>Honestly, I'm going for the procedure but until it happens. All I can say is that I don't look forward to it as an adult. Prior to needing it done, it didn't really impact my life in any way. So you are fine either way. Something to consider. Recovery for an adult is 6 weeks to 6 months. 6 weeks to gym again and 6 months for full recovery around the area. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pretzelcoatl 03/08/24 1:00:03 PM #34:	IdiotMachine posted... There's tons of harm in waiting. Sounds like you've made up your mind then. Why make this topic? <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:979259989] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>There's tons of harm in waiting.</quote>Sounds like you've made up your mind then. Why make this topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 03/08/24 1:00:36 PM #35:	Yup --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:979259998] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Yup </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 03/08/24 1:01:01 PM #36:	Should be up to your son if he wants part of a major organ permanently removed once he has the mind to be able to consent. When complications of a foreskin do come up the solution is generally circumcision anyway so I dont understand why youd do it to a baby before any problem presents. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:979260014] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Should be up to your son if he wants part of a major organ permanently removed once he has the mind to be able to consent. When complications of a foreskin do come up the solution is generally circumcision anyway so I dont understand why youd do it to a baby before any problem presents. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeCrush980 03/08/24 1:02:08 PM #37:	Don't do it. It's genital mutilation. --- "Foolishness, Dante. Foolishness... Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself." - Vergil, DMC3 <cite>OrangeCrush980 posted [p:979260036] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Don't do it. It's genital mutilation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/08/24 1:02:24 PM #38:	IdiotMachine posted... And to answer this question logically, I'd have to compare two sets of data- probability of complications due to circumcision at birth vs. probability of complications of having a foreskin. I have no sense of these likelihoods... as I mentioned, the older OBGYNs seem to believe circumcision is better, with the younger ones seeming to believe it's social preference. Why are you not given any consideration to the harm done from performing this procedure? --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979260040] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>And to answer this question logically, I'd have to compare two sets of data- probability of complications due to circumcision at birth vs. probability of complications of having a foreskin. I have no sense of these likelihoods... as I mentioned, the older OBGYNs seem to believe circumcision is better, with the younger ones seeming to believe it's social preference.</quote>Why are you not given any consideration to the harm done from performing this procedure? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 03/08/24 1:05:26 PM #39:	I say don't. When your kid gets older, he can decide if he wants his dick cut or not. Yes, it might be more involved process then, but that's a small price to pay for actually providing your son body autonomy on what's effectively a cosmetic procedure. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:979260094] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I say don't. When your kid gets older, he can decide if he wants his dick cut or not. Yes, it might be more involved process then, but that's a small price to pay for actually providing your son body autonomy on what's effectively a cosmetic procedure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zakawer3 03/08/24 1:05:45 PM #40:	If it's a boy, then sure, circumcise him if you want to, much like how the Jews (or most Americans) do it. Though alternatively, you could have him circumcised years after his birth, akin to how most Muslims do it. Also, it's incredibly harmful to equate male circumcision with female genital mutilation. These two things are *NOT* comparable in the slightest, and I'm saying this as a circumcised man. --- Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Mains: Mario/Ganondorf/Lucina/Chrom/Banjo/Pythra/Wolf/Doc/Miis #BringBackDislikes (he/him) <cite>Zakawer3 posted [p:979260103] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>If it's a boy, then sure, circumcise him if you want to, much like how the Jews (or most Americans) do it. Though alternatively, you could have him circumcised years after his birth, akin to how most Muslims do it.Also, it's incredibly harmful to equate male circumcision with female genital mutilation. These two things are NOT comparable in the slightest, and I'm saying this as a circumcised man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 03/08/24 1:06:48 PM #41:	Ask any non-baby human with a penis if they want some of it cut off --- Go eat a pancake <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:979260120] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Ask any non-baby human with a penis if they want some of it cut off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 03/08/24 1:06:53 PM #42:	Doe posted... Should be up to your son if he wants part of a major organ permanently removed once he has the mind to be able to consent. When complications of a foreskin do come up the solution is generally circumcision anyway so I dont understand why youd do it to a baby before any problem presents. I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:979260123] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Should be up to your son if he wants part of a major organ permanently removed once he has the mind to be able to consent. When complications of a foreskin do come up the solution is generally circumcision anyway so I dont understand why youd do it to a baby before any problem presents.</quote>I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 03/08/24 1:07:47 PM #43:	Scardude posted... I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body. The penis is a major organ. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:979260140] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body.</quote>The penis is a major organ. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/08/24 1:08:05 PM #44:	Scardude posted... I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body. You got to be trolling. Damn, some of you are completely brainwashed on this matter. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979260143] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body.</quote>You got to be trolling.Damn, some of you are completely brainwashed on this matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CSCA33 03/08/24 1:08:21 PM #45:	Scardude posted... I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body. The number/amount of nerve endings removed is significant, this isnt like peeling off a finger nail --- [click here] pronouns incoming SHE HAS PRONOUNS!>(She/Her)<CHECK OUT my PRONOUNS <cite>CSCA33 posted [p:979260153] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>Scardude posted... </cite><quote>I'm trying to understand why you think extra skin is a major organ? This is a minor procedure and the skin in particular doesn't serve a major function to the human body for survival. Yes, skin is an organ. But the size of the area removed is small compared to the rest of the body.</quote>The number/amount of nerve endings removed is significant, this isnt like peeling off a finger nail </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 03/08/24 1:08:41 PM #46:	IdiotMachine posted... This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices So why did you even make this topic if you are already convinced to circumcise your kid? <cite>kage_53 posted [p:979260160] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>This is exactly what I want to prevent for my baby boy, per the older OBGYNs advices</quote>So why did you even make this topic if you are already convinced to circumcise your kid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/08/24 1:09:33 PM #47:	kage_53 posted... So why did you even make this topic if you are already convinced to circumcise your kid? Because he's a typical CE poster that just got bored and probably doesn't even have a kid. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979260172] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>kage_53 posted... </cite><quote>So why did you even make this topic if you are already convinced to circumcise your kid?</quote>Because he's a typical CE poster that just got bored and probably doesn't even have a kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 03/08/24 1:09:44 PM #48:	They kind of made it seem like a non choice at the hospital. The nurse was just like we have to take him for circumcision, I assume were doing that right? Im circumcised so I just went along with it. I do question it in hindsight tho. --- More to do with the humidity than heat <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:979260176] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>They kind of made it seem like a non choice at the hospital. The nurse was just like we have to take him for circumcision, I assume were doing that right? Im circumcised so I just went along with it. I do question it in hindsight tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 03/08/24 1:10:26 PM #49:	I like how they point out that complications are extremely unlikely while acting like the medical benefits are worth actually paying attention to when the odds of future complications from having foreskin are lower than the rate of complications from having the unnecessary cosmetic surgery done on an infant who cannot consent to body modifications surgery. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:979260190] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>I like how they point out that complications are extremely unlikely while acting like the medical benefits are worth actually paying attention to when the odds of future complications from having foreskin are lower than the rate of complications from having the unnecessary cosmetic surgery done on an infant who cannot consent to body modifications surgery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/08/24 1:10:44 PM #50:	If it was so helpful, then more men would be cut. The vast majority of men on earth are uncut. It's mostly just Americans and Jewish people who do it. And Jewish people only do it for religious reasons. Americans do it because of an idiot in like the 1800s who somehow convinced everyone it would make boys not self pleasure themselves Do not do it unless there is a medical reason. Hygiene is easy even uncut. I can confirm as an uncut 42 year old Also doctors push for circumcision because they sell the foreskins to beauty product companies <cite>Zikten posted [p:979260197] in To circumc... [t:80716158]...</cite> <quote>If it was so helpful, then more men would be cut. The vast majority of men on earth are uncut. It's mostly just Americans and Jewish people who do it. And Jewish people only do it for religious reasons. Americans do it because of an idiot in like the 1800s who somehow convinced everyone it would make boys not self pleasure themselves Do not do it unless there is a medical reason. Hygiene is easy even uncut. I can confirm as an uncut 42 year oldAlso doctors push for circumcision because they sell the foreskins to beauty product companies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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