Poll of the Day > Do you have different standards for males and females?

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MannerSaurus 10/09/18 3:23:36 PM #1:	Like, my life views I guess about the world seem to be radically different. I imagine most gentlemen here wouldn't hit a girl (unless it was a life or death situation) like they would another male, (me and my buddy almost went to jail 10 years ago for stomping in some guy's head after he slapped his GF at the pool hall we were at), but what about other stuff? I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift or know what size engine they have. But if a girl says that, I literally just think/say "Oh, it's okay, you're a girl." Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. If a girl says she is, I shrug and go "that makes sense." I don't mean to have a double standard, but... I just do. It's not that I think guys are superior to women, if anything, I think the opposite. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910240432] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Like, my life views I guess about the world seem to be radically different. I imagine most gentlemen here wouldn't hit a girl (unless it was a life or death situation) like they would another male, (me and my buddy almost went to jail 10 years ago for stomping in some guy's head after he slapped his GF at the pool hall we were at), but what about other stuff? I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift or know what size engine they have. But if a girl says that, I literally just think/say "Oh, it's okay, you're a girl." Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. If a girl says she is, I shrug and go "that makes sense." I don't mean to have a double standard, but... I just do. It's not that I think guys are superior to women, if anything, I think the opposite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 10/09/18 3:29:33 PM #2:	I don't really treat men or women differently (unless I want to get in said woman's pants that is). To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the fuck is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. As for hitting people, I don't hit anyone. Hitting anyone regardless of gender just shows you have no idea how to properly function in a civilized society. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:910240788] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>I don't really treat men or women differently (unless I want to get in said woman's pants that is). To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the fuck is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. As for hitting people, I don't hit anyone. Hitting anyone regardless of gender just shows you have no idea how to properly function in a civilized society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 10/09/18 3:30:02 PM #3:	I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. But as far as stuff like societal norms...nah. I keep it the same <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:910240812] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. But as far as stuff like societal norms...nah. I keep it the same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/09/18 3:37:58 PM #4:	argonautweakend posted... I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:910241260] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. </quote> Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/09/18 3:39:18 PM #5:	No. Girls are like guys when they're my friends. If I have the choice to hit anyone, aka I'm not in self defense mode, I'm going to use my words instead, man or woman. <cite>Yellow posted [p:910241319] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>No. Girls are like guys when they're my friends. If I have the choice to hit anyone, aka I'm not in self defense mode, I'm going to use my words instead, man or woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 10/09/18 3:51:42 PM #6:	Kyuubi4269 posted... argonautweakend posted... I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick. Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are going to have a very big difference in strength. Same goes for 2 scrawny people on different genders, 2 buff people of different genders, etc... We're a sexually dimorphic species, with males having about 50% more upper body strength, and about 25% more lower body strength. So actually, an average built male might be better suited to lift something heavy than a pretty well built female. --- There are more than two genders, try to change my mind <cite>lihlih posted [p:910242000] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. </quote> Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick.</quote> Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are going to have a very big difference in strength. Same goes for 2 scrawny people on different genders, 2 buff people of different genders, etc... We're a sexually dimorphic species, with males having about 50% more upper body strength, and about 25% more lower body strength. So actually, an average built male might be better suited to lift something heavy than a pretty well built female.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 10/09/18 3:54:57 PM #7:	Dikitain posted... To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well. I recall another friend once posted on Facebook asking for help with a flat tire and people responding asking either where she is at and if she has roadside assistance. He baffled me that she didn't know how to change a flat tire AND didn't have roadside assistance. If you end up in a sketchy neighborhood, sometimes one cannot afford to wait for help. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:910242181] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. </quote> Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well. I recall another friend once posted on Facebook asking for help with a flat tire and people responding asking either where she is at and if she has roadside assistance. He baffled me that she didn't know how to change a flat tire AND didn't have roadside assistance. If you end up in a sketchy neighborhood, sometimes one cannot afford to wait for help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 10/09/18 3:58:37 PM #8:	InfestedAdam posted... Dikitain posted... To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean you not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well. How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life. --- There are more than two genders, try to change my mind <cite>lihlih posted [p:910242395] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>InfestedAdam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. </quote> Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean you not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well.</quote> How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 10/09/18 4:00:24 PM #9:	lihlih posted... How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life. Assuming standard design, should be behind/underneath the tank and leading into the wall/floor. https://goo.gl/JqCqnY --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:910242482] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life.</quote> Assuming standard design, should be behind/underneath the tank and leading into the wall/floor. https://goo.gl/JqCqnY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 10/09/18 4:01:42 PM #10:	lihlih posted... InfestedAdam posted... Dikitain posted... To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean you not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well. How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life. Behind the toilet, there is a valve where the water line connects to the tank. Righty tighty, lefty loosy. Very helpful when you are replacing a toilet and don't want to turn off water to the whole house. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:910242557] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote><cite>InfestedAdam posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>To me your gender shouldn't be an excuse for why you can or can't do something. If a woman owns a house but doesn't own a tool box or know how to do basic maintenance I basically ask them "What the f* is wrong with you, why do you own a house?" similar to what I would do with a man. </quote> Maybe not as harsh but I can agree with you. Certain skills I feel should be "basic skills" that the average man/woman should know such as basic first aid, cooking, changing flat tire on a car, simply household maintenance, sewing, etc. One doesn't have to be an expect, just not be ignorant about it. Kinda related but as a teenager my sister did not know how to shut off the toilet tank main. I was baffled until I realize my father simply never taught her. It's so simple and could mean you not getting a flooded bathroom if something goes wrong. On another note one of my female friends once had to help a guy jump start his car cause he didn't know how to use jumper cables and she jokingly posted on Facebook about him giving up his "man card". I'd admit certain things I was ignorant of at various points in my life but like your comment about owning a house, if you drive a car, you should know basic car stuff as well.</quote> How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me q few times in my life.</quote> Behind the toilet, there is a valve where the water line connects to the tank. Righty tighty, lefty loosy. Very helpful when you are replacing a toilet and don't want to turn off water to the whole house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 10/09/18 4:02:06 PM #11:	Kyuubi4269 posted... argonautweakend posted... I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick. Id size up the situation in the moment. I dont average people out what is .5 of a person ya knowwhatimean <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:910242574] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I try to keep it the same however some women just cant do stuff like men sixh as heavy lifting. If theres a 50 pound box on average the average male woukd be better for lifting. </quote> Averages are irrelevant in this circumstance. If a strong woman and a weedy man were around, you're saying you would expect the man to do it despite being worse suited to the job. It's not treating people differently if you measure them by the same stick.</quote> Id size up the situation in the moment. I dont average people out what is .5 of a person ya knowwhatimean</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/09/18 4:06:53 PM #12:	No. I expect the same things from everyone equally. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:910242827] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>No. I expect the same things from everyone equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 10/09/18 4:08:01 PM #13:	Dikitain posted... Behind the toilet, there is a valve where the water line connects to the tank, typically on the wall. Righty tighty, lefty loosy. Very helpful when you are replacing a toilet and don't want to turn off water to the whole house. Thank you for the more detailed post. I failed at giving lihlih the actual instructions and only showed where the shut off is. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:910242884] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Behind the toilet, there is a valve where the water line connects to the tank, typically on the wall. Righty tighty, lefty loosy. Very helpful when you are replacing a toilet and don't want to turn off water to the whole house. </quote> Thank you for the more detailed post. I failed at giving lihlih the actual instructions and only showed where the shut off is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/09/18 4:08:11 PM #14:	Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:910242898] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/09/18 4:23:31 PM #15:	Aculo posted... Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back? No --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:910243749] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back?</quote> No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/09/18 6:05:07 PM #16:	Mead posted... Aculo posted... Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back? No omg you took me off ignore, ok? we can share everything now! --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:910249056] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back?</quote> No</quote> omg you took me off ignore, ok? we can share everything now!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/09/18 6:06:37 PM #17:	MannerSaurus posted... Like, my life views I guess about the world seem to be radically different. I imagine most gentlemen here wouldn't hit a girl (unless it was a life or death situation) like they would another male, (me and my buddy almost went to jail 10 years ago for stomping in some guy's head after he slapped his GF at the pool hall we were at), but what about other stuff? I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift or know what size engine they have. But if a girl says that, I literally just think/say "Oh, it's okay, you're a girl." Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. If a girl says she is, I shrug and go "that makes sense." I don't mean to have a double standard, but... I just do. It's not that I think guys are superior to women, if anything, I think the opposite. overreaction --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:910249139] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Like, my life views I guess about the world seem to be radically different. I imagine most gentlemen here wouldn't hit a girl (unless it was a life or death situation) like they would another male, (me and my buddy almost went to jail 10 years ago for stomping in some guy's head after he slapped his GF at the pool hall we were at), but what about other stuff? I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift or know what size engine they have. But if a girl says that, I literally just think/say "Oh, it's okay, you're a girl." Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. If a girl says she is, I shrug and go "that makes sense." I don't mean to have a double standard, but... I just do. It's not that I think guys are superior to women, if anything, I think the opposite.</quote> overreaction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/09/18 6:07:22 PM #18:	Only when it comes to boobs, as in what good shape they're in. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:910249174] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Only when it comes to boobs, as in what good shape they're in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/09/18 6:13:50 PM #19:	anyways, to answer the question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wcxHiorJ4" data-time=" --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:910249515] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>anyways, to answer the question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wcxHiorJ4" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 10/09/18 8:09:11 PM #20:	No, not really. I mean I don't know crap about cars besides they have 5 wheels and go forward so why would I call anyone else out? I'll hit people when appropriate (few minor scuffles during my school days, nothing extreme). It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right? <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:910255677] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>No, not really. I mean I don't know crap about cars besides they have 5 wheels and go forward so why would I call anyone else out? I'll hit people when appropriate (few minor scuffles during my school days, nothing extreme). It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 10/09/18 8:11:47 PM #21:	I guess, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get turned on by guys, yet I find all kinds of girls hot/attractive. It's not fair I know, but just the way I am made I guess. In fact, I kinda dislike or am repulsed by guys that dress in woman's clothing. I don't say that to them of course or hurt their feelings, but I also don't like it. Shouldn't feel that way, people should be able to dress however they want, but again, can't seem to change how I react. --- "did you steal my f***in signature" Helly <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:910255833] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>I guess, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get turned on by guys, yet I find all kinds of girls hot/attractive. It's not fair I know, but just the way I am made I guess. In fact, I kinda dislike or am repulsed by guys that dress in woman's clothing. I don't say that to them of course or hurt their feelings, but I also don't like it. Shouldn't feel that way, people should be able to dress however they want, but again, can't seem to change how I react.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/09/18 9:42:37 PM #22:	Aculo posted... Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back? You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right? --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910261413] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't mansaurus the racist gun owner guy from a while back?</quote> You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/10/18 1:43:01 AM #23:	I try to treat everybody the same, but it's hard not to make special allowances for women because all of our lives we're brought up making exceptions for women. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:910271946] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>I try to treat everybody the same, but it's hard not to make special allowances for women because all of our lives we're brought up making exceptions for women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/10/18 1:56:43 AM #24:	MannerSaurus posted... Do you have different standards for males and females? Nope. I treat everyone the same. Even when I'm attracted to someone I do the same. This isn't a bad thing in general but does make it hard for folk to know if I'm interested or not. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:910272360] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have different standards for males and females?</quote> Nope. I treat everyone the same. Even when I'm attracted to someone I do the same. This isn't a bad thing in general but does make it hard for folk to know if I'm interested or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/10/18 2:03:09 AM #25:	Nope. I don't. But that's probably because my mom told me not to. Haha. If you don't know something, then you don't know. Doesn't matter your gender. I wouldn't say that guys should have to know certain things. Same for a lady. If you don't own something, then you don't own something. There's no reason to treat people differently because of gender. Or choose someone to do something, or say that they're "bad" for not knowing something that every person of their gender "should" know. But that's just me. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:910272539] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Nope. I don't. But that's probably because my mom told me not to. Haha. If you don't know something, then you don't know. Doesn't matter your gender. I wouldn't say that guys should have to know certain things. Same for a lady. If you don't own something, then you don't own something. There's no reason to treat people differently because of gender. Or choose someone to do something, or say that they're "bad" for not knowing something that every person of their gender "should" know. But that's just me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/10/18 2:15:03 AM #26:	lihlih posted... Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are [yadayadayada] Since you agree, why did you rant on sexual dimorphism? In any actual circumstance, you have certain predetermined people, not average people. lihlih posted... How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me a few times in my life. In the UK the cistern is typically filled from a pipe without a dedicated shut off. You can, however, shut off your mains water entirely, and that pipe is typically located under the kitchen sink. DPsx7 posted... It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right? Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it. MannerSaurus posted... You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right? Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:910272852] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are [yadayadayada]</quote> Since you agree, why did you rant on sexual dimorphism? In any actual circumstance, you have certain predetermined people, not average people. <cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me a few times in my life.</quote> In the UK the cistern is typically filled from a pipe without a dedicated shut off. You can, however, shut off your mains water entirely, and that pipe is typically located under the kitchen sink. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right?</quote> Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it. <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right?</quote> Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/10/18 2:17:58 AM #27:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames. Wrong. However he didn't disclose her race so. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:910272926] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames.</quote> Wrong. However he didn't disclose her race so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/10/18 4:00:48 AM #28:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it. But you won't know what you need until you need it. it would definitely be better if you know stuff beforehand, but you won't know what you need to know... Kyuubi4269 posted... Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames. Usually the case, but I think it's would be a little different here. Most of the board(I think, or maybe most of the regulars) were in the topic that he made. I've only been here about a month shy of a year, and I know who he is. That being said, I'm not sure if he ever disclosed her race. Also, I was happy to see him back. I wasn't sure we'd ever see him here again for some reason... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:910275314] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it.</quote> But you won't know what you need until you need it. it would definitely be better if you know stuff beforehand, but you won't know what you need to know... <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames.</quote> Usually the case, but I think it's would be a little different here. Most of the board(I think, or maybe most of the regulars) were in the topic that he made. I've only been here about a month shy of a year, and I know who he is. That being said, I'm not sure if he ever disclosed her race. Also, I was happy to see him back. I wasn't sure we'd ever see him here again for some reason...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 10/10/18 4:11:28 AM #29:	Women are smart, intelligent, beautiful, capable beings whom can both give life and take it. To be revered and beloved. They are free to feel how they want, dress how they want, and achieve any position they want. Men are thuggish brutes driven purely by instinct who can barely dress themselves and gladly engage in violence, lewd activities, and are fairly stupid on the whole. They can't have emotions and exist only to provide finances for the woman and, should she choose it, her family. At least those are the standards I hear all the time. I don't know what I believe; but the narrative keeps creeping in. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:910275539] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Women are smart, intelligent, beautiful, capable beings whom can both give life and take it. To be revered and beloved. They are free to feel how they want, dress how they want, and achieve any position they want. Men are thuggish brutes driven purely by instinct who can barely dress themselves and gladly engage in violence, lewd activities, and are fairly stupid on the whole. They can't have emotions and exist only to provide finances for the woman and, should she choose it, her family. At least those are the standards I hear all the time. I don't know what I believe; but the narrative keeps creeping in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 5:55:40 AM #30:	Oh.. maybe I didn't say her race. That still doesn't explain why he thinks I'm a racist??? Oh well. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910277493] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Oh.. maybe I didn't say her race. That still doesn't explain why he thinks I'm a racist??? Oh well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 10/10/18 8:30:45 AM #31:	Kyuubi4269 posted... lihlih posted... Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are [yadayadayada] Since you agree, why did you rant on sexual dimorphism? In any actual circumstance, you have certain predetermined people, not average people. lihlih posted... How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me a few times in my life. In the UK the cistern is typically filled from a pipe without a dedicated shut off. You can, however, shut off your mains water entirely, and that pipe is typically located under the kitchen sink. DPsx7 posted... It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right? Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it. MannerSaurus posted... You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right? Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames. Do you not have any reading comprehension at all? I even mentioned that a fit female would most likely be able to lift less than an average Male because of the sexual dimorphism. There are very few instances where a female would be able to lift more than a male. --- There are more than two genders, try to change my mind <cite>lihlih posted [p:910280934] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Averages are indeed relevant. An average built guy and girl are [yadayadayada]</quote> Since you agree, why did you rant on sexual dimorphism? In any actual circumstance, you have certain predetermined people, not average people. <cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>How do you shut off the toilet tank main? That could've helped me a few times in my life.</quote> In the UK the cistern is typically filled from a pipe without a dedicated shut off. You can, however, shut off your mains water entirely, and that pipe is typically located under the kitchen sink. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>It's so easy to learn whatever you want to these days. No longer an issue of what you 'should' know, right?</quote> Some things require immediate knowledge so it's best you learn before you need it. <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>You... do know that... my late wife is/was black... right?</quote> Not to be a dick, but people tend not to remember the late wives of faceless internet usernames.</quote> Do you not have any reading comprehension at all? I even mentioned that a fit female would most likely be able to lift less than an average Male because of the sexual dimorphism. There are very few instances where a female would be able to lift more than a male.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 10/10/18 9:14:43 AM #32:	MannerSaurus posted... I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift Fucking why? And I say this as someone who knows how to drive shift. Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am! Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it." MannerSaurus posted... Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:910282467] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift </quote> Fucking why? And I say this as someone who knows how to drive shift. Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am! Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it." <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. </quote> Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/10/18 10:34:00 AM #33:	wwinterj25 posted... Nah he's the guy with the dead wife who died in a car crash. i thought it was his girlfriend...? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:910285693] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Nah he's the guy with the dead wife who died in a car crash.</quote> i thought it was his girlfriend...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/10/18 10:49:42 AM #34:	LinkPizza posted... But you won't know what you need until you need it. You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for. LinkPizza posted... Usually the case, but I think it's would be a little different here. Most of the board(I think, or maybe most of the regulars) were in the topic that he made. I've only been here about a month shy of a year, and I know who he is. That being said, I'm not sure if he ever disclosed her race. I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads. lihlih posted... Do you not have any reading comprehension at all? I even mentioned that a fit female would most likely be able to lift less than an average Male because of the sexual dimorphism. There are very few instances where a female would be able to lift more than a male. It's still irrelevant. The same yard stick is entirely applicable in that circumstance. If you were using a different standard i.e. men are stronger than women full stop, you'd have a guy with cerebral papsy carry weight for the world's strongest woman. But you don't. The metric you use is "the stronger one lifts", which ignores sex. darkknight109 posted... Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am! If that's what you think it is, you can't drive stick properly lol darkknight109 posted... Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it." It's more like mocking someone for ordering pizza when it's easy to make. You're free to waste your money, but putting in a little skill gets perfect returns. darkknight109 posted... Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners. A statistic that's distinctly American. Gun owners are more likely to commit gun crimes as they have a gun to commit the crime with, thus gun owners are more likely to decide to rob a liquor store at gunpoint? It's misleading at best, you have no supporting reasoning to justify the lefty stance. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:910286426] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But you won't know what you need until you need it.</quote> You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Usually the case, but I think it's would be a little different here. Most of the board(I think, or maybe most of the regulars) were in the topic that he made. I've only been here about a month shy of a year, and I know who he is. That being said, I'm not sure if he ever disclosed her race.</quote> I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads. <cite>lihlih posted...</cite> <quote>Do you not have any reading comprehension at all? I even mentioned that a fit female would most likely be able to lift less than an average Male because of the sexual dimorphism. There are very few instances where a female would be able to lift more than a male.</quote> It's still irrelevant. The same yard stick is entirely applicable in that circumstance. If you were using a different standard i.e. men are stronger than women full stop, you'd have a guy with cerebral papsy carry weight for the world's strongest woman. But you don't. The metric you use is "the stronger one lifts", which ignores sex. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am!</quote> If that's what you think it is, you can't drive stick properly lol <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it."</quote> It's more like mocking someone for ordering pizza when it's easy to make. You're free to waste your money, but putting in a little skill gets perfect returns. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners.</quote> A statistic that's distinctly American. Gun owners are more likely to commit gun crimes as they have a gun to commit the crime with, thus gun owners are more likely to decide to rob a liquor store at gunpoint? It's misleading at best, you have no supporting reasoning to justify the lefty stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/10/18 10:54:24 AM #35:	Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:910286657] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 10/10/18 10:58:53 AM #36:	Lokarin posted... Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair Not into Futa? --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:910286851] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair</quote> Not into Futa?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 10/10/18 10:58:57 AM #37:	Lokarin posted... Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair Dang it Lokarin, reading that made me wonder if there are she-males out there with larger penis than the average male. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:910286858] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. I demand larger dick sizes on men than women... it's really unfair</quote> Dang it Lokarin, reading that made me wonder if there are she-males out there with larger penis than the average male.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 11:02:46 AM #38:	darkknight109 posted... MannerSaurus posted... I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift Fucking why? And I say this as someone who knows how to drive shift. Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am! Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it." MannerSaurus posted... Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners. You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around. And Kyuubi4269 is right. That's nonsense. I would wager I am friends with hundreds of gun owners, including family members older and younger than me, and have worked with thousands over the last decade and a half, from range officers, to law enforcement and military, to safety instructors and legal instructors (things like USCCA) and not one, not ONE PERSON out of a THOUSAND people that I have at least been acquainted with has had a single incident with a firearm that was dangerous or unlawful, not even a negligent discharge at a gun range. Guns are not toys, and yes they are deadly (as is the purpose), but that's where common sense and basic gun safety comes in to play. You never point a gun at ANYONE unless it is in self defense. You NEVER touch the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Etc. etc. Negligence with stupid people that don't know how to properly store or use a firearm are when people get hurt. Statistically speaking, me driving a car everyday makes me more likely to be in a car crash than if I didn't drive my car. Guns are safer than cars, literally. A 2-ton machine going 50MPH that I'm strapped inside of vs. an inanimate object laying against my night stand with no cartridge in the chamber and the safety on. I just checked, the gun is still just sitting there not hurting anyone. Also, I lock up my weapons when I'm not at the house (except for the pistol I carry on my body.) --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910287005] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like I harshly judge a guy if they say they don't know how to drive a standard shift </quote> Fucking why? And I say this as someone who knows how to drive shift. Oh I can move a lever while pushing a pedal? And listen to when the sound of an engine is higher or lower in pitch? What a manly fucking man I am! Seriously, taking pride in someone being able to drive stick (especially when there is a nakedly more advanced option available - feel free to join us in the 21st century whenever you're ready!) is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's like saying "Anyone who uses electricity for lighting is a bitch; candlelight is the real way to do it." <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Same thing with firearms, if a guy tells me he's scared of guns, I think less of him as a man for being afraid of an inanimate object and that he is failing to keep his loved ones safe. </quote> Not to segue this topic into a different debate, but statistically you're keeping your family much safer if you don't have guns. Gun owners are statistically more likely to be victims of gun violence than non-gun owners.</quote> You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around. And Kyuubi4269 is right. That's nonsense. I would wager I am friends with hundreds of gun owners, including family members older and younger than me, and have worked with thousands over the last decade and a half, from range officers, to law enforcement and military, to safety instructors and legal instructors (things like USCCA) and not one, not ONE PERSON out of a THOUSAND people that I have at least been acquainted with has had a single incident with a firearm that was dangerous or unlawful, not even a negligent discharge at a gun range. Guns are not toys, and yes they are deadly (as is the purpose), but that's where common sense and basic gun safety comes in to play. You never point a gun at ANYONE unless it is in self defense. You NEVER touch the trigger until you are ready to shoot. Etc. etc. Negligence with stupid people that don't know how to properly store or use a firearm are when people get hurt. Statistically speaking, me driving a car everyday makes me more likely to be in a car crash than if I didn't drive my car. Guns are safer than cars, literally. A 2-ton machine going 50MPH that I'm strapped inside of vs. an inanimate object laying against my night stand with no cartridge in the chamber and the safety on. I just checked, the gun is still just sitting there not hurting anyone. Also, I lock up my weapons when I'm not at the house (except for the pistol I carry on my body.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/10/18 11:10:16 AM #39:	Aculo posted... i thought it was his girlfriend...? Nah man it was his wife. Could be wrong but it was a relatively new wife too. I don't remember every little detail. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:910287355] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>i thought it was his girlfriend...?</quote> Nah man it was his wife. Could be wrong but it was a relatively new wife too. I don't remember every little detail.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 11:12:27 AM #40:	wwinterj25 posted... Aculo posted... i thought it was his girlfriend...? Nah man it was his wife. Could be wrong but it was a relatively new wife too. I don't remember every little detail. It's probably my fault for the confusion. She was/is my wife, but we weren't legally married, just engaged. We considered ourselves husband and wife, though, as she said "Yes" to me in our own private ceremony. Just had to keep pushing off the ceremony for friends and family and get the legal paper work. The only time I distinguish her as my fiancee only was with my lawyer after the wreck, because legally that makes a difference. But for everything else, we were husband/wife. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910287448] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Aculo posted...</cite> <quote>i thought it was his girlfriend...?</quote> Nah man it was his wife. Could be wrong but it was a relatively new wife too. I don't remember every little detail.</quote> It's probably my fault for the confusion. She was/is my wife, but we weren't legally married, just engaged. We considered ourselves husband and wife, though, as she said "Yes" to me in our own private ceremony. Just had to keep pushing off the ceremony for friends and family and get the legal paper work. The only time I distinguish her as my fiancee only was with my lawyer after the wreck, because legally that makes a difference. But for everything else, we were husband/wife.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/10/18 11:16:34 AM #41:	MannerSaurus posted... It's probably my fault for the confusion. Ah. Well fair enough then. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:910287674] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>It's probably my fault for the confusion.</quote> Ah. Well fair enough then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/10/18 11:20:00 AM #42:	MannerSaurus posted... Guns are safer than cars, literally. Well using the right statistics, they're not. If a bullet hits a person, they're going to need some kind of medical treatment, if a car hits a person, they can just be bumped. This is the issue with statistics, they can't express the nuance of reality and give people the impression that really is black and white when everything's like fucking static. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:910287863] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Guns are safer than cars, literally. </quote> Well using the right statistics, they're not. If a bullet hits a person, they're going to need some kind of medical treatment, if a car hits a person, they can just be bumped. This is the issue with statistics, they can't express the nuance of reality and give people the impression that really is black and white when everything's like fucking static.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 11:41:54 AM #43:	Kyuubi4269 posted... MannerSaurus posted... Guns are safer than cars, literally. Well using the right statistics, they're not. If a bullet hits a person, they're going to need some kind of medical treatment, if a car hits a person, they can just be bumped. This is the issue with statistics, they can't express the nuance of reality and give people the impression that really is black and white when everything's like fucking static. Yep. Kinda like, to refute that other guys "statistics", the cities (like Chicago) with the strictest gun control have the highest violent crime in the country, but areas with open carry (I think open carry is stupid, for the record) have the lowest crime rate in the entire nation. Like... yeah. lol --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910288957] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Guns are safer than cars, literally. </quote> Well using the right statistics, they're not. If a bullet hits a person, they're going to need some kind of medical treatment, if a car hits a person, they can just be bumped. This is the issue with statistics, they can't express the nuance of reality and give people the impression that really is black and white when everything's like fucking static.</quote> Yep. Kinda like, to refute that other guys "statistics", the cities (like Chicago) with the strictest gun control have the highest violent crime in the country, but areas with open carry (I think open carry is stupid, for the record) have the lowest crime rate in the entire nation. Like... yeah. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/10/18 11:57:26 AM #44:	Kyuubi4269 posted... You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for. So, basically, you're trying to base it on what other people, and probably the rude ones, think you need. Most adults I know don't openly mock people about not knowing something. Maybe jokingly, but I don't hear it much. Because most adults know that not everybody is going to know everything. Anyway, that still doesn't mean you'll know. They can mock you for not knowing how to drive stick shift, when what you'll need to know later is how to fix a hole in something by sewing. So, it's still goes back to you won't know what you need to know until you need it sometimes... Kyuubi4269 posted... I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads. And I said that I would normally agree with you, under different circumstances. His story kinda stuck with me. And probably other people on the board. Not to mention that lots of us are regular who know a little about each other. That's why I said usually the case. But I feel this one is a little different. That's all. MannerSaurus posted... You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around. I mean, it's your right to think of people like that if you want. Not trying to be rude, but it kinda makes me think less of a person who thinks that, though. I know I had trouble when learning. Could I drive one? Probably. I'd need a quick refresher, but I could probably do it. Would I? Not unless I needed to, which most likely means no. Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:910289672] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for.</quote> So, basically, you're trying to base it on what other people, and probably the rude ones, think you need. Most adults I know don't openly mock people about not knowing something. Maybe jokingly, but I don't hear it much. Because most adults know that not everybody is going to know everything. Anyway, that still doesn't mean you'll know. They can mock you for not knowing how to drive stick shift, when what you'll need to know later is how to fix a hole in something by sewing. So, it's still goes back to you won't know what you need to know until you need it sometimes... <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads.</quote> And I said that I would normally agree with you, under different circumstances. His story kinda stuck with me. And probably other people on the board. Not to mention that lots of us are regular who know a little about each other. That's why I said usually the case. But I feel this one is a little different. That's all. <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around.</quote> I mean, it's your right to think of people like that if you want. Not trying to be rude, but it kinda makes me think less of a person who thinks that, though. I know I had trouble when learning. Could I drive one? Probably. I'd need a quick refresher, but I could probably do it. Would I? Not unless I needed to, which most likely means no. Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 12:10:10 PM #45:	LinkPizza posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for. So, basically, you're trying to base it on what other people, and probably the rude ones, think you need. Most adults I know don't openly mock people about not knowing something. Maybe jokingly, but I don't hear it much. Because most adults know that not everybody is going to know everything. Anyway, that still doesn't mean you'll know. They can mock you for not knowing how to drive stick shift, when what you'll need to know later is how to fix a hole in something by sewing. So, it's still goes back to you won't know what you need to know until you need it sometimes... Kyuubi4269 posted... I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads. And I said that I would normally agree with you, under different circumstances. His story kinda stuck with me. And probably other people on the board. Not to mention that lots of us are regular who know a little about each other. That's why I said usually the case. But I feel this one is a little different. That's all. MannerSaurus posted... You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around. I mean, it's your right to think of people like that if you want. Not trying to be rude, but it kinda makes me think less of a person who thinks that, though. I know I had trouble when learning. Could I drive one? Probably. I'd need a quick refresher, but I could probably do it. Would I? Not unless I needed to, which most likely means no. Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know. Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910290386] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>You'll know what you need based on what people mock you for.</quote> So, basically, you're trying to base it on what other people, and probably the rude ones, think you need. Most adults I know don't openly mock people about not knowing something. Maybe jokingly, but I don't hear it much. Because most adults know that not everybody is going to know everything. Anyway, that still doesn't mean you'll know. They can mock you for not knowing how to drive stick shift, when what you'll need to know later is how to fix a hole in something by sewing. So, it's still goes back to you won't know what you need to know until you need it sometimes... <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>I know who he is and his story too, still know nothing about her wife beyond the incident. Again, dude on the internet's RL relations aren't things that typically stick in people's heads.</quote> And I said that I would normally agree with you, under different circumstances. His story kinda stuck with me. And probably other people on the board. Not to mention that lots of us are regular who know a little about each other. That's why I said usually the case. But I feel this one is a little different. That's all. <cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>You don't have to drive a stick shift, it's just important to be able to know how to drive one. A man shouldn't be conquered by a simple machine. So yes, if you can't drive a standard shift, I think less of you as a man. I don't think you should legally be allowed to drive an Automatic car if you can't drive a Manual, because that means you don't understand torque and power curves of your car, shift points and torque converter lock ups, you don't know how to maintain powerband and down shift gear through a corner (left foot braking in auto, heel-toe in a manual since you have to rev match up throttle.) You make the car work for you, not the other way around.</quote> I mean, it's your right to think of people like that if you want. Not trying to be rude, but it kinda makes me think less of a person who thinks that, though. I know I had trouble when learning. Could I drive one? Probably. I'd need a quick refresher, but I could probably do it. Would I? Not unless I needed to, which most likely means no. Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know.</quote> Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/10/18 12:31:40 PM #46:	MannerSaurus posted... Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911. Sure. They are plenty of rare scenarios. And they suck. And sometimes, there's no much you can do. As I said, it an emergency, I'd drive. And I'd probably be fine. But for most circumstances, I would not. Also, this is also an emergency that could have been solved by driving automatic. But if I couldn't I would definitely try to either get to a spot with signal or flag down someone else. Though, tbh, if we were so far away from anywhere that we didn't see another person, or had cell phone reception, it could possibly be too late. We sound like we'd be far from a hospital. And I would probably need a way to find it. Like GPS or something. As for the first scenario, that's if I had the muscle memory to do it. I'd probably freak out first and mess up. It would probably be safer with automatic for me. Also, like I said, I feel I'd be distracted by also having to do a couple other things while driving. Where I can focus on just the driving part with Auto... But there are always situations where if people know one thing, or just a little more of a specific thing, it could/would help... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:910291592] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911.</quote> Sure. They are plenty of rare scenarios. And they suck. And sometimes, there's no much you can do. As I said, it an emergency, I'd drive. And I'd probably be fine. But for most circumstances, I would not. Also, this is also an emergency that could have been solved by driving automatic. But if I couldn't I would definitely try to either get to a spot with signal or flag down someone else. Though, tbh, if we were so far away from anywhere that we didn't see another person, or had cell phone reception, it could possibly be too late. We sound like we'd be far from a hospital. And I would probably need a way to find it. Like GPS or something. As for the first scenario, that's if I had the muscle memory to do it. I'd probably freak out first and mess up. It would probably be safer with automatic for me. Also, like I said, I feel I'd be distracted by also having to do a couple other things while driving. Where I can focus on just the driving part with Auto... But there are always situations where if people know one thing, or just a little more of a specific thing, it could/would help...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 12:34:01 PM #47:	LinkPizza posted... MannerSaurus posted... Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911. Sure. They are plenty of rare scenarios. And they suck. And sometimes, there's no much you can do. As I said, it an emergency, I'd drive. And I'd probably be fine. But for most circumstances, I would not. Also, this is also an emergency that could have been solved by driving automatic. But if I couldn't I would definitely try to either get to a spot with signal or flag down someone else. Though, tbh, if we were so far away from anywhere that we didn't see another person, or had cell phone reception, it could possibly be too late. We sound like we'd be far from a hospital. And I would probably need a way to find it. Like GPS or something. As for the first scenario, that's if I had the muscle memory to do it. I'd probably freak out first and mess up. It would probably be safer with automatic for me. Also, like I said, I feel I'd be distracted by also having to do a couple other things while driving. Where I can focus on just the driving part with Auto... But there are always situations where if people know one thing, or just a little more of a specific thing, it could/would help... Word. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910291718] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, just for example, there are dangerous situations on the road where throttle will avoid a wreck, and brake will just cause a slightly less, but still deadly or dangerous wreck. If you don't know your vehicle by muscle memory if you have enough powerband at the top of the next gear down from going wide open throttle (in Automatic your WOT position should send a signal to the computer causing the gear to downshift, or manually move it down to the "3" from 4th or "2" from 3rd if your car has that etc. [I know modern Automatic cars have more than 4-5 gears now.]) but not enough power that you spin the tires loose and lose traction. Again, this is really rare scenario stuff, but I just think it's important. Also, what you and me were hanging out, I drove one of my stick-shift cars, and then we were far away from cell phone reception and then I had a heart attack? You would have to drive my stick-shift car to save my life or get me to a hospital, or at least to an area where you got reception to call 911.</quote> Sure. They are plenty of rare scenarios. And they suck. And sometimes, there's no much you can do. As I said, it an emergency, I'd drive. And I'd probably be fine. But for most circumstances, I would not. Also, this is also an emergency that could have been solved by driving automatic. But if I couldn't I would definitely try to either get to a spot with signal or flag down someone else. Though, tbh, if we were so far away from anywhere that we didn't see another person, or had cell phone reception, it could possibly be too late. We sound like we'd be far from a hospital. And I would probably need a way to find it. Like GPS or something. As for the first scenario, that's if I had the muscle memory to do it. I'd probably freak out first and mess up. It would probably be safer with automatic for me. Also, like I said, I feel I'd be distracted by also having to do a couple other things while driving. Where I can focus on just the driving part with Auto... But there are always situations where if people know one thing, or just a little more of a specific thing, it could/would help...</quote> Word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/10/18 12:36:43 PM #48:	LinkPizza posted... Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know. Automatics aren't psychic, they don't change gears on what you can see, they adjust based on what they are, thus the output is pretty crappy. In bad conditions it is easy to unsettle a car and with an automatic you lack the means to disconnect the drive from the wheels so you'll have an ungodly time trying to minimise load on your tyres. Then they're more expensive to buy and repair, and they're weaker to boot. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:910291883] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know.</quote> Automatics aren't psychic, they don't change gears on what you can see, they adjust based on what they are, thus the output is pretty crappy. In bad conditions it is easy to unsettle a car and with an automatic you lack the means to disconnect the drive from the wheels so you'll have an ungodly time trying to minimise load on your tyres. Then they're more expensive to buy and repair, and they're weaker to boot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MannerSaurus 10/10/18 12:39:27 PM #49:	Kyuubi4269 posted... LinkPizza posted... Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know. Automatics aren't psychic, they don't change gears on what you can see, they adjust based on what they are, thus the output is pretty crappy. In bad conditions it is easy to unsettle a car and with an automatic you lack the means to disconnect the drive from the wheels so you'll have an ungodly time trying to minimise load on your tyres. Then they're more expensive to buy and repair, and they're weaker to boot. Yep. Gear change is based on Throttle Position Sensor, engine speed, and Mass Air Flow data, if I remember correctly. Possibly other variables like Intake Air Temperature, but I don't think so. --- Hoppe hoppe Reiter, und kein Engel steigt herab mein Herz schlagt nicht mehr weiter, NUR DER REGEN WEINT AM GRAB <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:910292039] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Seems unless. Especially since they made Automatic cars. Why not take advantage of the advanced Technology. Plus, it one less thing to distract me on the road. I also don't think you always need to know all the stuff about the car that was mentioned in the quoted part, as well. But maybe others think it's important to know.</quote> Automatics aren't psychic, they don't change gears on what you can see, they adjust based on what they are, thus the output is pretty crappy. In bad conditions it is easy to unsettle a car and with an automatic you lack the means to disconnect the drive from the wheels so you'll have an ungodly time trying to minimise load on your tyres. Then they're more expensive to buy and repair, and they're weaker to boot.</quote> Yep. Gear change is based on Throttle Position Sensor, engine speed, and Mass Air Flow data, if I remember correctly. Possibly other variables like Intake Air Temperature, but I don't think so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 10/10/18 12:42:19 PM #50:	hmmm, i dunno, story is changing. not adding up here, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:910292182] in Do you hav... [t:77082470]...</cite> <quote>hmmm, i dunno, story is changing. not adding up here, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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