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Biolizard28
09/07/11 12:22:00 PM
#251:


Blitz, eh? As much as I complain about his dumb ass, I don't know if I want to pick him up. He never really clicked with me. But I still need a pubstomper.

Brand is a must buy, I love that guy.

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Peace___Frog
09/07/11 12:59:00 PM
#252:


I don't see Blitz as much of a pubstomper, his burst is rather lacking.

And I don't see why you'd spend RP on anything outside of a 3150/4800/6300, but that's just me!

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:00:00 PM
#253:


Peace___Frog posted...
I don't see Blitz as much of a pubstomper

Is Blitz in your lane?

Is an a melee carry also in your lane?

Surrender at 20.

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Lopen
09/07/11 1:01:00 PM
#254:


I wouldn't even consider RP on a guy who's not a 3150 and up for 585 or a 6300 for 975. And of course they must always be on sale.

I mean I've never spent RP on a character at all but I've considered it.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:03:00 PM
#255:


I bought Singed with RP while he was on sale, because using 20s to cover RP leaves you 300~ RP short if you bought expensive champs on sale, and what the hell else are you going to do with it?

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Lopen
09/07/11 1:06:00 PM
#256:


Buy a 520 skin on sale

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:08:00 PM
#257:


I'd rather buy something that impacts the game than a bad skin.

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SythaWarrior
09/07/11 1:09:00 PM
#258:


Some of the better skins are 520...

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:10:00 PM
#259:


*I'd rather buy something that impacts the game than a skin.

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Lopen
09/07/11 1:11:00 PM
#260:


I'd rather buy a skin than waste money on something you could get by winning 4 games

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:13:00 PM
#261:


On top of the many games I'm already playing trying to fill up my rune page, which takes priority.

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Lopen
09/07/11 1:14:00 PM
#262:


Hell even if you're against making your champion look better the smarter thing to do is to let the 300 sit there and add it to the next 300 you have sitting there

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Forceful_Dragon
09/07/11 1:40:00 PM
#263:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
tbh these topics need to start being archived. Even if we only started archiving at topic 25 that would still prevent the loss of a lot of quality information and I for one plan on sticking with this game for some time yet.

I can archive them. Would prefer to have a hosting site instead of having to mediafire stuff though.



Is there any way we could put them up on the board 8 wikia?

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TheConductorSix
09/07/11 1:42:00 PM
#264:


Support Blitz bottom lane isn't bad. The problem is that smart carrys will just sit behind minions or juke his grab. Meanwhile, Alistar and Leona WANT to get grabbed by Blitz. Bring me closer to your carry? Thanks bro!

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Forceful_Dragon
09/07/11 1:44:00 PM
#265:


TheConductorSix posted...
Support Blitz bottom lane isn't bad. The problem is that smart carrys will just sit behind minions or juke his grab. Meanwhile, Alistar and Leona WANT to get grabbed by Blitz. Bring me closer to your carry? Thanks bro!


If the carry is in the right spot then a blitz hook/fist will still send Leona limping to safety. The carry would have to be much too close to blitz or too focused on the minions to notice blitz setting up for a hook.

TBH I really don't see a low level leona tanking a hook + a knock up + a few DPS shots and still being able to charge in and start a fight. Especially with her carry still a screen away at the time.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 1:47:00 PM
#266:


The thing about Blitz is

A) Nobody knows how to block his grab, they just complain when they stand in the open and it works.

B) He can basically sit in the brush all day and make you too terrified to move.

C) He can grab through walls, which is just an asspain.

It's less of an issue late game when the grab is the LEAST of your problems, but in the early game with the right lane partner, everybody's getting fed.

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09/07/11 1:56:00 PM
#267:


So apparently the PC Gamer Caitlyn code has no security. No plastic wrap, not even a scratch-off thing, you can just go in and steal a code.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 2:00:00 PM
#268:


Anagram posted...
So apparently the PC Gamer Caitlyn code has no security. No plastic wrap, not even a scratch-off thing, you can just go in and steal a code.

Riot Games

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Peace___Frog
09/07/11 2:00:00 PM
#269:


Biolizard28 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
I don't see Blitz as much of a pubstomper

Is Blitz in your lane?

Is an a melee carry also in your lane?

Surrender at 20.


this requires your melee carry to know what they're doing

in which case, they're the ones doing the pubstomping, not you

you're an assist master as blitz - assist masters do not pubstomp as well as kill masters

I have played as blitz with melee carries where they were far too passive, and me landing nice grabs did very little because my lane partner didn't take advantage of them

so if your partner is a baddy, then good luck 'pubstomping'!

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 2:13:00 PM
#270:


this requires your melee carry to know what they're doing

Sitting on your ass near Blitzcrank waiting for a successful grab isn't exactly brain surgery, and anyone can carry when fed to the degrees Blitzcrank can allow.

You're arguing semantics. Just because Blitzcrank isn't the one taking the kills doesn't mean he's not the main reason their lane is getting destroyed.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 3:19:00 PM
#271:


Man, Ezreal

Ezreal is just the most fun champion

it's pretty amazing

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TheConductorSix
09/07/11 4:35:00 PM
#272:


FD if the carry is near blitz then she isn't farming. If blitz is near the carry he isn't scary because I can see him. You can hide behind minions against Blitz. If blitz and the carry go into the brush close to you you back away. They go back to farming, you go back. Lastly the grab is easy to juke. I'm not some pro or anything but i've literally never had a problem with Blitz.

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Peace___Frog
09/07/11 4:37:00 PM
#273:


Biolizard28 posted...
this requires your melee carry to know what they're doing

Sitting on your ass near Blitzcrank waiting for a successful grab isn't exactly brain surgery, and anyone can carry when fed to the degrees Blitzcrank can allow.

You're arguing semantics. Just because Blitzcrank isn't the one taking the kills doesn't mean he's not the main reason their lane is getting destroyed.


trust me, you'd be surprised at how many people don't take advantage of grabs during the laning phase

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Justin_Crossing
09/07/11 4:38:00 PM
#274:


i don't think i have ever gotten angrier at this game

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09/07/11 5:21:00 PM
#275:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/mechanics-preview-riven-shattered-exile

Interesting, though they still aren't saying what her resource is (I'm told she's manaless).

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 5:25:00 PM
#276:


Dammit, I need to get a refund on Talon faster.

Fighting game inspired champion? Give me that s***.

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Justin_Crossing
09/07/11 5:57:00 PM
#277:


Also I am really sorry Sytha and Dara.

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Biolizard28
09/07/11 6:25:00 PM
#278:


So, would a CVS carry PC Gamer?

I'm going to scour this week and the next for the magazine.

I'm a little worried about my code being snatched, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me if I'm the only League player in this city.

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09/07/11 6:49:00 PM
#279:


Amazing game as Jax, Sythia as Caitlyn (what a surprise), and Zazi as Malphite, with a random Morgana and Annie. Took me forever, but I eventually got on a roll and started doing really well, though Sythia still did much better.

Highlight of the game: the three of us rushing into their base to destroy their nexus as Vladimir and Leona tried to stop us, while their Sivir and Shaco tried to baserush our nexus while Annie and Morgana stopped them. Unsurprisingly, we won.

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SythaWarrior
09/07/11 7:18:00 PM
#280:


Teemo attempted to stop us too but he just melted.

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TheConductorSix
09/07/11 8:19:00 PM
#281:


Jax gets Hextech and is guaranteed to take one person with him by hitting Ultimate and leaping. Like once the game gets 40 minutes in Jax is just silly. In lane he's silly because once he hits 6 you can't one on one him. But if you don't body him out of lane and he gets farmed you lose anyways. I've gotten dived by an entire enemy team, hit my ult right before they got me, and with nothing but Hextech and Dodge Boots I lived long enough for my team to come murder them. He's probably my second favorite troll champ behind Singed.

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09/07/11 8:33:00 PM
#282:


TheConductorSix posted...
Jax gets Hextech and is guaranteed to take one person with him by hitting Ultimate and leaping. Like once the game gets 40 minutes in Jax is just silly. In lane he's silly because once he hits 6 you can't one on one him. But if you don't body him out of lane and he gets farmed you lose anyways. I've gotten dived by an entire enemy team, hit my ult right before they got me, and with nothing but Hextech and Dodge Boots I lived long enough for my team to come murder them. He's probably my second favorite troll champ behind Singed.

Teemo is much more annoying than Jax.

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TheConductorSix
09/07/11 8:40:00 PM
#283:


Teemo is only annoying if he grabs Wriggles and wards your entire jungle. You can NEVER go off alone. Ever.

Jax is annoying because once a certain item is gotten he becomes the main focus of every fight and is retardedly hard to kill.

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Justin_Crossing
09/07/11 8:41:00 PM
#284:


Realo you're lying.

Everyone's favorite troll champ is Trundle.

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Peace___Frog
09/07/11 9:15:00 PM
#285:


I chuckled.

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Gwindor
09/07/11 11:22:00 PM
#286:


Building Ezreal is...something I have to think about.

I understand that he's supposed to be an AD carry. But I feel like if you're going to play an AD carry it should be someone that isn't Ezreal.

So I like to try to build him hybrid. Going Manamune + Archangel's is fun, but you don't get any defense out of it.

You can get Manamune and then glacial shroud and banshees, but now you're just a bad AD carry.

It's hard to justify Gunblade on a character that doesn't have a lot of health to begin with.

I see a lot of people getting trinity on him. I can see how that's a good item, but if you want a trinity user there are better champions for that too.

=/ halp

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09/07/11 11:25:00 PM
#287:


Gwindor posted...
Building Ezreal is...something I have to think about.

I understand that he's supposed to be an AD carry. But I feel like if you're going to play an AD carry it should be someone that isn't Ezreal.

So I like to try to build him hybrid. Going Manamune + Archangel's is fun, but you don't get any defense out of it.

You can get Manamune and then glacial shroud and banshees, but now you're just a bad AD carry.

It's hard to justify Gunblade on a character that doesn't have a lot of health to begin with.

I see a lot of people getting trinity on him. I can see how that's a good item, but if you want a trinity user there are better champions for that too.

=/ halp


I just build like regular AD ranged carries, but I have little Ezreal experience, sorry.

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09/07/11 11:44:00 PM
#288:


Man, I'm tired of playing with B8ers and always doing the worst. The only time I don't is when I play Sona, because it's impossible to screw up Sona, and even then I sometimes kill steal by accident with my Q.

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Achromatic
09/07/11 11:54:00 PM
#289:


From: Anagram | #288
Man, I'm tired of playing with B8ers and always doing the worst. The only time I don't is when I play Sona, because it's impossible to screw up Sona, and even then I sometimes kill steal by accident with my Q.


If you'd like Anagram I could offer some one on one time in exchange for reviews of my fanfiction. My 1 on 1 time has generally helped people I think.

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red13n
09/08/11 12:34:00 AM
#290:


that is not a fair trade. dont do it.

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meisnewbie
09/08/11 12:39:00 AM
#291:


It totally is a fair trade.

Anagram IS a hard M right?

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Biolizard28
09/08/11 4:47:00 AM
#292:


Gwindor posted...
Building Ezreal is...something I have to think about.

I understand that he's supposed to be an AD carry. But I feel like if you're going to play an AD carry it should be someone that isn't Ezreal.

So I like to try to build him hybrid. Going Manamune + Archangel's is fun, but you don't get any defense out of it.

You can get Manamune and then glacial shroud and banshees, but now you're just a bad AD carry.

It's hard to justify Gunblade on a character that doesn't have a lot of health to begin with.

I see a lot of people getting trinity on him. I can see how that's a good item, but if you want a trinity user there are better champions for that too.

=/ halp


Triforce is mandatory, starting with Sheen. His Q procs on hit effects, including the damage boost from Sheen/Triforce, which is a huge help to Ezreal. Most builds I see include a Bloodthirster, which is a must on any ranged carry, really. Personally, I grab a Tear of the Goddess early since you're going to spam Q anyway and it builds into Manamune late game. Brutalizer while you wait for the big guns is a good choice. Don't build Youmuu's, just sell it when you can buy the stuff you really want. The only other item that's really not up for debate on him is Last Whisper. General rule after that is if you're getting your ass kicked, you should focus on defensive items. Otherwise, continue to build offensively. Some items like Frozen Mallet will help you do both.

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SovietGwindor
09/08/11 12:16:00 PM
#293:


Thanks, Bio

Then I'll keep trying things with trinity.

I feel like finishing Manamune early would be best, however, due to the absurd amount of mana Ez gets from mystic shot with it.

There's also the issue of CDR. I mean, you're basically looking at ionian boots, brutalizer, and kindlegem for it. hmm.

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Biolizard28
09/08/11 12:32:00 PM
#294:


Building Manamune early delays your damage. The gold is better spent on Trinity first. Tear is enough to solve your early mana issues and helps build up mana for late damage.

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09/08/11 1:03:00 PM
#295:


Ashe > Caitlyn > Vayne > Corki > Kog > MF = Ezreal > Sivir > Twitch

In effectiveness, not fun.

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Biolizard28
09/08/11 1:17:00 PM
#296:


Anagram posted...
Sivir > Twitch

Honestly debatable.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/08/11 2:03:00 PM
#297:


Not at all debatable. Twitch stomps the **** out of Sivir.

Better ratings:

Kog > Vayne > Cait > Corki = Ashe > MF > Ezreal > Twitch >>> Sivir

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KanzarisKelshen
09/08/11 2:04:00 PM
#298:


On another note, did anyone mention that Riven has the best mechanics ever?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/mechanics-preview-riven-exile

Day one buy, period. Brand can wait for such a hot babe.

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Biolizard28
09/08/11 2:35:00 PM
#299:


I'm starting to realize that there are more 6300s than I thought.

I'm also starting to realize that I'm running out of 6300s to care about.

After the next $20 I spend, last for the year probably, these seven are my next purchases:

Brand
Caitlin (If I can find a PC Gamer magazine)
Cass
Vayne
Ezreal
Irelia
... Maokai? I don't know. I don't really care for anyone else.

Edited because I somehow forgot my wife existed.

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09/08/11 2:56:00 PM
#300:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Not at all debatable. Twitch stomps the **** out of Sivir.

Better ratings:

Kog > Vayne > Cait > Corki = Ashe > MF > Ezreal > Twitch >>> Sivir


In a fight, sure, but overall value to the team?

And yeah, looking forward to Riven, but if they're making Orianna "easier to play," it's not inconceivable they'll eventually do the same to Riven.

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