Always have nearly no practical knowledge and in some case no general knowledge? I mean why, one can't prevent the other, unless none of those people are actually smart and spend 100% of their free time in their books (I know some do but I doubt it's the majority).
Just asking because yesterday I was talking to someone who got the highest grade in his school last year but had no idea who the hell Achilles was (I was talking about the Iliad with some other girl while he was listening), I mean it's not the most common knowledge ever but I thought most people know who the hell Achilles is, especially because of that Achilles' Heel thing, he had no idea what the War of Troy was either.
Anyway, from what I've seen he's far from being the only one in this case, quite a ton of '' smart '' people seem to be pretty stupid out of the classroom.
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Not always. I have a fair bit of practical knowledge, I think, and I got a 3950/4000 on the GED. Granted, that thing is SAT easy-mode. I'll get back to you once I get those scores in a couple of months since I need them for Uni.
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No, people just find any example they can of a person with good grades or a reputation for being "smart" being wrong about something and harp on it. Some people don't know some stuff, it's that simple, "smart" people are no exception. Most of the people I knew in high school who got good grades were generally intelligent and competent in many situations, but I know that because I knew them instead of just following a silly pre-conceived notion that they MUST be dumb in some way.
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In my experience, getting higher grades does roughly correlate with higher general knowledge (yes, there are exceptions; I'm not claiming this is ironclad), so I'd guess it's just you.
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The same guy has no idea how to change a tire for instance.
Would you say that this is essential knowledge for everyone? How about those who don't drive because they don't need to? Then again, lots of drivers have AAA.
That said, I've heard of college graduates being unable to understand how to use a stapler and so they would ask someone else to staple for them, so I see the point you're trying to make. I just don't think that knowing how to change a tire is completely essential to typical life in all situations. And yes, I've been taught how to replace a tire, although I've never needed to actually do it. It is good knowledge to have, but again, it's one of those things you could go through life without knowing about it.
Ayuyu posted... jck4332 posted... I can't change a tire because it isn't a necessary skill for me.
But I bet you can cook an egg or bake a cake !
This guy can't.
So now you're listing completely random tasks that have nothing to do with intelligence and more "Were you ever shown how to do this" to try and prove how stupid this guy apparently is.
This topic has jumped the shark.
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I know how to change a tire even though I've never owned a car. I'd say I'm thankful for it but the odds of it being all-important are pretty slim until such a time as I own a vehicle.
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Ayuyu posted... Always have nearly no practical knowledge and in some case no general knowledge? I mean why, one can't prevent the other, unless none of those people are actually smart and spend 100% of their free time in their books (I know some do but I doubt it's the majority).
Just asking because yesterday I was talking to someone who got the highest grade in his school last year but had no idea who the hell Achilles was (I was talking about the Iliad with some other girl while he was listening), I mean it's not the most common knowledge ever but I thought most people know who the hell Achilles is, especially because of that Achilles' Heel thing, he had no idea what the War of Troy was either.
Anyway, from what I've seen he's far from being the only one in this case, quite a ton of '' smart '' people seem to be pretty stupid out of the classroom.
And this has nothing to do with intelligence. (although it does matter what year you're in).
It's not common sense either; the Illiad and its related works are very well known, but for someone not to know what hey are implies that they are neither stupid nor "un street-smart" just not very well read.
And although being well-read and being intelligent are correlated, they are not explicitly related in any sort of way other than being intelligence means you may enjoy reading more.
Really depends on the sort of person. In regards to high school, most people I've known were legitimately smart. There certainly were a few exceptions, though. Those tended to be the types that weren't necessary smart so much as obsessively hard workers; those who would spend 2 hours every night on each AP Physics and Calculus assignment and ridiculous amounts of time freaking out about every test.
From: Mr Lasastryke | #029 The Iliad as an example of out-of-the-classroom knowledge.
Yeah.
Not knowing about the Illiad is understandable, never having heard of the Trojan War isn't.
Not knowing about the Trojan War is even understandable imo. After all, it's likely a completely fictional war. But not having at least a basic understanding of who Achilles is, whose heel is referenced fairly often in modern culture? yikes
Even so that alone isn't enough to say this kid is actually dumb or anything
That said, I've heard of college graduates being unable to understand how to use a stapler and so they would ask someone else to staple for them, so I see the point you're trying to make.
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Gatarix posted... That said, I've heard of college graduates being unable to understand how to use a stapler and so they would ask someone else to staple for them, so I see the point you're trying to make.
That said, I've heard of college graduates being unable to understand how to use a stapler and so they would ask someone else to staple for them, so I see the point you're trying to make
One of my roommates last year didn't know how to use a washing machine so he paid one of his friends $20 to start the machine for him. That was more because he was raised in a rich and sheltered lifestyle though.
"Smart people," know how to work the system in school. It's not like it's hard. I know, I was one of them in high school and I was friends with all the rest. You do minimal work for maximum benefit. It doesn't mean they're actually smart. This isn't always the case of course, but a lot of times that's what's going on.
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From: Rad Link 5 | #039 I smoked them on the SATs. Because they couldn't cheat there.
It's fairly easy to "cheat" the general system of the SAT as long as you know what the SAT expects you to "know." Heck, I had an entire "Study Skills" class in high school that was essentially teaching me how to overperform on the SAT.
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The three girls with the highest GPAs in my grade (The Hotchkiss School, a pretty good boarding school) were on the same team in the trivia bowl.
Their first round went like this: MC: What's the biggest island in the United States? (pause for thought, they discuss among themselves) Girl: Rhode Island? MC: Wha-- ... no I'm sorry... Other girl: I TOLD YOU! Costa Rica! (audience laughs)
^ This. It's supposed to be a test of your general aptitude. Which means that studying for it at all is kinda unfair, because it was originally intended to be sorta like an IQ test. Alas.
It should be mentioned also that in my story only two of the girls were from the US, although they've all lived here