Poll of the Day > Just watched Rogue One.

(+) Yeah! (+)

The robot was O Kay, but the rest of the characters kinda blew and I had to take a break 3 times before getting through it. So glad I got it from a 1.50 kiosk and didn't see it in the theater.

The pace was slow, the cameos where short/pointless and I never really cared about anyone.

May be the worst star wars movie yet, surpasing the Jar Jar ones by just not making me even care enough to dislike any character even.
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It had probably the best battle though
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I watched the movie next to this kid who needed out once they showed that vintage footage of the pilots.

He was so excited, he kicked the seat in front of him. The guy in that seat spilled his drink all over himself.

And THAT is how the movie was ruined for me.
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I admit, I've never been a massive star wars (or star trek) fan, but I mostly enjoyed the other star wars movies (Especially the original 3). I've watch most of them twice at least (the originals...probably at least 3-4 times, and episode 7 twice. Episode 3 twice as well (part of episode 2 twice).

I won't watch rogue squadron again that is for sure though. Felt like I was watching the backstory for one of the characters in Knight of the old republic MMO or something (But those where actually more interesting over all).

Maybe I'm just jaded, but blah. Why couldn't they just have made Timothy Zhans star wars books into movies? That would have freaking rocked.
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quigonzel posted...

I did not enjoy Rogue One. I want to see it again to see if my opinion of it changes.

It was less awful for me on the second viewing, but still the worst thing since the prequels.
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Rogue one was awesome

i need to watch it again. it' might be like the avenger where i loved it at the theater but when i got home i was like... this movie is just pure crap that makes no sense.
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I think a lot of people said it was like a Star Wars fan film. Lots of Star Wars-y things put in there for you to recognize but bland characters and a plot you don't care about.
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Let's hate hate hate bunch of haters hating everything
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it wasn't good but it wasn't bad either

middling popcorn fare, basically franchise filler

It was the best Star Wars movie.
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lol damn i knew adjl was generally clueless and wrong about everything but this takes the cake

I mean, there's no reason for the movie to exist. It's prequel to the first movie, so we know Vader won't die and the Death Star isn't going to be destroyed. If neither of those things happen then what's the fucking point? Especially since it makes the rebels look incompetent if they steal the blueprints but don't do shit with them.
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I kinda liked the robot, he wasn't a hk-47, but he was pretty cool.

Rest of the movie seemed like it was made for super fans who like trivia etc, and not really for a general audience.

I would not have made it through watching it in a theater for sure.

Not even comparing it to star wars movies (which I have at least been ok with watching even the worst of them before)

It just didn't have enough meat to keep my interest at least for it's run time. Woulda rather seen it condenses into a 1 hour tv show or something, but certainly not a movie.
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Nah, most of the complaints about it are just letting nostalgia hype up the older Star Wars movies. Star Wars has never really had deep, compelling characters, unless you start digging into the EU. Just looking at the movies, they're fun adventures in space, and it was losing touch with that core and trying too hard to be a grand, compelling story that made the prequels such a mess. Rogue One's characters were a bit more shallow than even that, simply because of how throwaway they had to be, but they were definitely written well enough to allow for fun adventures in space, and it had really awesome space adventures. That's all I'm looking for in a Star Wars movie, and it did that better than any other one.

Now, that was just one viewing, and still relatively recent. I may ease off on that opinion a bit after later viewings, or after more time has passed, but right now? Best Star Wars. ****ing come at me.
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i mean if aggressively wrong is what you wanna be then go for it my dude hahahahahaha

Erik_P posted...

I mean, there's no reason for the movie to exist. It's prequel to the first movie, so we know Vader won't die and the Death Star isn't going to be destroyed. If neither of those things happen then what's the fucking point? Especially since it makes the rebels look incompetent if they steal the blueprints but don't do shit with them.

The point is to tell the story of stealing those blueprints. The rebels then do do something with the blueprints, in the movie's sequel. What an odd criticism.
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bernieflanders posted...

i mean if aggressively wrong is what you wanna be then go for it my dude hahahahahaha

I'll take your failure to mount an articulate criticism as an admission that I'm right but you don't have the self-esteem to admit it. There, there.
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adjl posted...

Now, that was just one viewing, and still relatively recent. I may ease off on that opinion a bit after later viewings, or after more time has passed, but right now? Best Star Wars. ****ing come at me.

Jesus. Remind me not to ask for your opinion on movies.
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we now move into the exciting prospect of being aggressively wrong combined with an embarrassing display of internet armchair psychology haaaaaaaaaahahahaha

keep going, this is hilarious

bernieflanders posted...

we now move into the exciting prospect of being aggressively wrong combined with an embarrassing display of internet armchair psychology haaaaaaaaaahahahaha

keep going, this is hilarious

There, there.
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Rogue One actually is much better on second viewing.

And yes, most of the characters are weak, but it probably has the best action sequences in the entire saga.

Is it up to the standards of the originals? Of course not, but it's still a fun movie. Hell, if the actual prequels had been of Rogue One's quality instead of steaming dumpster fires, they might be looked on more favourably.
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It was the kind of film I want to see more of (that is, something that tries to do something completely new with the Star Wars name), but it wasn't terribly well executed other than the final battle. The character's felt really flat, yes, even compared to the original six films.
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lol, too triggered not to reply but not smart enough to give an actual rebuttal

adjl is gunning for erik's crown as the biggest joke on potd hahahahahaha

adjl posted...

Erik_P posted...

I mean, there's no reason for the movie to exist. It's prequel to the first movie, so we know Vader won't die and the Death Star isn't going to be destroyed. If neither of those things happen then what's the fucking point? Especially since it makes the rebels look incompetent if they steal the blueprints but don't do shit with them.

The point is to tell the story of stealing those blueprints. The rebels then do do something with the blueprints, in the movie's sequel. What an odd criticism.

The point is that we know they get the blueprints. We know they don't destroy the Death Star. We know Vader doesn't die. There's absolutely no drama or surprise.
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Erik_P posted...

The point is that we know they get the blueprints. We know they don't destroy the Death Star. We know Vader doesn't die. There's absolutely no drama or surprise.

Do you hate the entire prequel trilogy because we already know Anakin becomes Vader?
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I hate life because eventually the Earth will be swallowed by the sun.
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Watched it 3 times in the theater, it was amazing each time!
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Eh. I thought it was pretty weak. The end battle was great, but that doesn't make up for the first half of the movie. Maybe what Rebels does with Saw and leading up to RO will make it better, though.

As far as movies go
IV > V > VII > III > VI > RO > II > I
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I didn't care for it. I mean it's not a terrible film but it's not a memorable film. Case in point I couldn't tell you a single one of the new characters names. It was just a meh film for me.
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Episode 3 wasn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It wasn't as good as the original 3 (any of them), for me, but I watched it twice all the way through and enjoyed it both times.

Episode 1 and 2 where more of a 1 time shot for me, but I watched em in the theater and didn't leave midway through, I would have for Rogue one for sure.

Part of it is just the absolute lack of interesting characters, hardly any humor (Which was even in episode 3 a bit, but in all the rest to some degree), little to no light heartedness, and barely any "coolness" factor with jedi's multi-lightsaber wielding robots etc.

I even thought Episode 7 was lacking a bit in some of that (but still watched it twice with no problem), but it was nothing like Rogue One which, to be honest, could have easily been a sci fi movie on it's own that didn't involve star wars or it's characters, and wouldn't have changed much (other then nobody having ANY reason to watch it then.

Some people like it and that is great, but to me it was the worst yet, and I doubt I will ever give it another shot.
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Saw it twice in cinemas.
Enjoyed it both times.

I will say, the characters are kind of bland, but going in basically knowing no one survives, would you really want to get attached to the characters too much?
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It was so meh hot garbage trash damn my epeen street cred is swelling.

adjl posted...

Star Wars has never really had deep, compelling characters, unless you start digging into the EU. Just looking at the movies, they're fun adventures in space, and it was losing touch with that core and trying too hard to be a grand, compelling story that made the prequels such a mess. Rogue One's characters were a bit more shallow than even that....

Even if I grant what you're saying is true, which I don't, the OT had more than nothing. Luke and Han in Ep IV both had arcs that made sense whether or not you found them deep and compelling. Those characters are easy to understand. There's just too much of Rogue One that doesn't add up in terms of character development.
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adjl posted...

Erik_P posted...

The point is that we know they get the blueprints. We know they don't destroy the Death Star. We know Vader doesn't die. There's absolutely no drama or surprise.

Do you hate the entire prequel trilogy because we already know Anakin becomes Vader?

I hate it because the acting and dialogue are garbage and is a stain on the SW name.
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Erik_P posted...

I mean, there's no reason for the movie to exist. It's prequel to the first movie, so we know Vader won't die and the Death Star isn't going to be destroyed. If neither of those things happen then what's the fucking point? Especially since it makes the rebels look incompetent if they steal the blueprints but don't do shit with them.

I mean... aside from using them to destroy the Death Star, I guess

MICHALECOLE posted...

Rogue one was awesome

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Erik_P posted...

adjl posted...

Erik_P posted...

I mean, there's no reason for the movie to exist. It's prequel to the first movie, so we know Vader won't die and the Death Star isn't going to be destroyed. If neither of those things happen then what's the fucking point? Especially since it makes the rebels look incompetent if they steal the blueprints but don't do shit with them.

The point is to tell the story of stealing those blueprints. The rebels then do do something with the blueprints, in the movie's sequel. What an odd criticism.

The point is that we know they get the blueprints. We know they don't destroy the Death Star. We know Vader doesn't die. There's absolutely no drama or surprise.

The drama and surprise was whether or not they'd actually survive the mission.

Erik_P posted...

adjl posted...

Erik_P posted...

The point is that we know they get the blueprints. We know they don't destroy the Death Star. We know Vader doesn't die. There's absolutely no drama or surprise.

Do you hate the entire prequel trilogy because we already know Anakin becomes Vader?

I hate it because the acting and dialogue are garbage and is a stain on the SW name.

That's not what I asked.

Kungfu Kenobi posted...

Even if I grant what you're saying is true, which I don't, the OT had more than nothing. Luke and Han in Ep IV both had arcs that made sense whether or not you found them deep and compelling. Those characters are easy to understand. There's just too much of Rogue One that doesn't add up in terms of character development.

While true, I didn't really feel it took away from the movie. It wasn't trying to establish a series, it was just telling a story about a handful of people that nobody knew, and I feel it did a good job of that. If they were significant characters with meaningful backstories and development, it'd seem incongruous that they saw no recognition in later entries. It was a bunch of nobodies, and I liked it that way.
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MICHALECOLE posted...

Rogue one was awesome

adjl posted...

It was the best Star Wars movie.

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adjl posted...

While true, I didn't really feel it took away from the movie. It wasn't trying to establish a series, it was just telling a story about a handful of people that nobody knew, and I feel it did a good job of that. If they were significant characters with meaningful backstories and development, it'd seem incongruous that they saw no recognition in later entries. It was a bunch of nobodies, and I liked it that way.

Plenty of standalone movies have decent character development without trying to establish a series. In fact, one of the major problems with Rogue One is that it acts like a standalone movie, but can't support itself without the context provided by A New Hope. So all we really have are the characters, and those are throwaways. So the whole movie turns into a throwaway.
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The characters were awesome I swear potders hate everything
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adjl posted...

While true, I didn't really feel it took away from the movie. It wasn't trying to establish a series, it was just telling a story about a handful of people that nobody knew, and I feel it did a good job of that. If they were significant characters with meaningful backstories and development, it'd seem incongruous that they saw no recognition in later entries. It was a bunch of nobodies, and I liked it that way.

lol this is completely ridiculous. this just in everyone, every standalone movie that ever had character development was doing it wrong, because they were telling stories about handfuls of people nobody knew and meaningful character arcs got in the way of the movie being about a bunch of nobodies hahahahahaha

The movie clearly tried to have meaningful character arcs, the whole final scene relied on it. I just don't think they were very good.
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I liked it. +1 for best star wars film.
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Not having a romantic subplot was a huge bonus though
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That's not what I asked.

I know what you're trying to get me to say, but the prequels were genuinely the 3 shittiest movies I've ever watched.
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Mead posted...

I swear potders hate everything