Board 8 > SaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Frasier in the Sky Edition [SELF]

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Man I just remembered when I was playing through SC I didn't even care enough to bring Tita for the Renne boss fights. Oh how times have changed.
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pyresword posted...

Man I just remembered when I was playing through SC I didn't even care enough to bring Tita for the Renne boss fights. Oh how times have changed.

Well, I brought her along for both of them the first time so I guess I'm good this time around. I think it's kind of weird that they don't force you to bring Tita here, but I guess Renne is supposed to be Estelle's "rival" instead.

I didn't realize they didn't make you bring along the "rival" for the boss fights in the final dungeon (or at least I assumed they'd force you to sub them in when the time came) so I didn't bring Olivier along to fight Bleublanc and he was sad about it.

I do remember at least one of the Renne fights being a major pain the first time I played. Maybe it was this one, so perhaps having access to Grail Sphere will lessen the annoyance.
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Tita isn't forced for the Chapter 7 fight? Huh, for some reason I thought she was. I knew the Liber Ark fights are unrestricted, but huh.

also i just learned that witcher 3 is supposed to get a patch soon (but no release date info) so i guess i'll wait for that and instead play life is strange.

I've meant to do that for like two years ever since Roba watched/played Ciel nosurge but TRAILS happened. ...or something happened. i remember it was a trainwreck of comedy as 2017 kept throwing game of the decade candidates out to stop me
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Nope, you don't have to bring Tita, which is why I'm bringing Kevin instead. It's the only tower where you don't have three required party members.

Life Is Strange huh

maybe one of these days I'll gain an ally in the "that game isn't that great" camp so "good luck"
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Weird. If anything I'd think Bleublanc's was the one that would be free given Olivier is absent. shows what i remember.

LeonhartFour posted...

Life Is Strange huh

maybe one of these days I'll gain an ally in the "that game isn't that great" camp so "good luck"

"thanks"
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Oh wait, that's right. You don't have to bring Kloe for that one. I just brought her along because she's always there. I forgot she's not mandatory.

also I have a strong feeling I could gain an easy ally by making SaveEstelle play Life Is Strange but I don't know that I'd want to do that to him

if you like the game but still end up hating Chloe I'll consider that a victory too
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Hella yes, Life is Strange! I hope you enjoy it. The game has definite flaws so I can understand disliking it but to me it still manages to come together into a masterpiece.
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I can understand disliking it too

which is why I'm kind of puzzled more B8ers don't

it's almost as puzzling as so many people thinking the ending of The Last of Us was great when it's an utter abomination
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LeonhartFour posted...

it's almost as puzzling as so many people thinking the ending of The Last of Us was great when it's an utter abomination

guess what's another game on my backlog

but probably way, way further away from getting played
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well there's no need to rush to that one

I liked it but it's not a "game of the generation" type of game as it's often hailed

I don't know that a good ending would've turned it into a great game though. It was just an unfortunate resolution.
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this topic is giving me the urge to play TLOU for some reason...
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pyresword posted...

Man I just remembered when I was playing through SC I didn't even care enough to bring Tita for the Renne boss fights. Oh how times have changed.

Tita is so frail its hard to rationalize bringing her. Renne's first fight was so annoying since she likes to open with Rennede and insta kill people
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well the fight is winnable although it might take a while

of course I'm playing on Normal so I'd imagine that fight would be nigh impossible with Tita on higher difficulties
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Kingdom Hearts II Platinum get! By far the most fun. I can't believe how much I enjoyed the gummi here.
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Yeah, the Gummi in KHII is way better than in the first game. I've never really bothered with all the "bonus" missions, but I appreciate the fact that they responded to the criticisms of it in the first game and worked to improve it.
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I am also on "KH2 Gummi Ships are actually fun" team. Didn't do the extra missions until the PS3 Remaster when I got the platinum for it though.

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Also, officially started Life is Strange. Still on Episode 1, though if the photos that give you trophies are any indication I'm near the end? Just left Chole's house and ended up on the Lighthouse Path.

My initial impressions so far are quite positive. Max seems pretty cool, and I enjoy her internal commentary as I examine absolutely everything. Also binging on FMA good life decision. Not really sure I've interacted with the other characters enough to form too strong opinions on yet. Dana and Kate seem cool though? wareen a bit creepy tbqh.

I've mostly been playing as a Lawful Good Paladin righting wrongs and being a hero but also a ninja who (almost) always tries to reverse time to erase any sign I ever did anything. I don't think the game actually cares about that but I do. I reported Nathan to the principal (and was BETRAYED if the text I got later is any indication.) Was nice to Victoria even though she made me engineer an evil plan to get into my own dorm. Intervened when Chloe's step-dad was a jerk to Kate. Hid in the closet at Chloe's place when he burst in. I think those were all the super serious distorted screen choices so far at least.

I've been checking the other paths for all these, but I feel pretty good about my choices. Only one that made me feel uneasy was that last one. First time I screwed up hiding and when Chloe tried to pin the blame on Max (jerk move) I denied it but felt like a total ass after Chloe was slapped and she chewed out Max. So I was actually thinking I'd go the other path and stick with it, but I was able to successfully hide this time (did I miss this the first time or was the failure needed for Max to realize she had to do prep work here?) and had Max take the blame. I was "okay" with this outcome but wanted to see what happened in the event that Max hid the whole time. I hesitantly think this was for the best. Still feel awful about Chloe getting slapped but I think this was the best outcome? Side note: I'm not too thrilled about the Kate choice either. Feel like you should be able to take a photo and intervene. In fact that should be ideal since you'd have evidence. In even more fact, since you apparently retain inventory through reversals I should have both but doubt it will work that way.

the one time i failed to maintain my ninja status was saving the bird that crashes into the window at chloe's place. i thought about it but there's no way around it leaving evidence. you can't just close the window again because the bird would be trapped in the room which just raises even more questions. i questioned whether it could be plausibly blamed on chloe being petty but decided that didn't seem in-character. yes i take this all very seriously.

Obviously I made other choices so if anyone cares to know about any other ones I may have made feel free to quiz me.
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xp1337 posted...

First time I screwed up hiding and when Chloe tried to pin the blame on Max (jerk move)

Chloe the absolute worst
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It was definitely her lowest moment so far. But I haven't really seen much from her so I still haven't made any decisions about her. (Though there are warning signs and this was definitely one.)

though max also a jerk for not ever contacting her for five years. only real problem with max so far.
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Anyway, now the superbosses to finish this Critical run. Here's Sephiroth without Second Chance because I'm only level 45.

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xp1337 posted...

(did I miss this the first time or was the failure needed for Max to realize she had to do prep work here?)

You need to rewind once to move the lamp but you don't need to be caught or anything.

I'm glad you're enjoying it so far! You seem to be taking your time regarding details and looking around, which are both important in LiS.

LeonhartFour posted...

xp1337 posted...

First time I screwed up hiding and when Chloe tried to pin the blame on Max (jerk move)

Chloe the absolute worst

She's definitely not a saint but in this instance I think she figured Max would get in less trouble. After all, David hits Chloe but doesn't hit Max. It was selfish but also logical.
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I mean I've already learned that you adore selfish characters so you don't really need to justify it
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Mobilezoid posted...

You seem to be taking your time regarding details and looking around, which are both important in LiS.

exploring everything and exhausting dialogue is my favorite past time >_>

I was getting super paranoid during the trip to Chloe's House because it had seemed like a while since I took a trophy photo and the hints indicated a bird is involved in one of the last two so I kept searching her backyard for an option (as well as the bird you save.) Though now that I'm on the lighthouse path this seems like it could work too, but I quit once I arrived there so I'll find out.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I mean I've already learned that you adore selfish characters so you don't really need to justify it

It depends on the kind of selfishness! Chloe's stepfather is abusive so she absolutely had a reason to blame Max. That's the kind of selfishness that adds depth even if it isn't necessarily the nicest character trait.

Also don't worry too much about catching all the photos xp, there's a collectible mode you can access to easily grab any you miss. I should also say that I might not comment much (other than answering questions and defending Chloe from Leonhart), mostly because I'm always afraid about accidentally spoiling things, but I will be following along and will probably have more stuff to say once you finish!
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get back to playing Clannad instead
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Mobilezoid posted...

I should also say that I might not comment much (other than answering questions and defending Chloe from Leonhart), mostly because I'm always afraid about accidentally spoiling things, but I will be following along and will probably have more stuff to say once you finish!

No worries~
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LeonhartFour posted...

get back to playing Clannad instead

I probably will once the current anime season ends in a week or two. It turns out that trying to keep up with eighteen different shows at once eats up a lot of free time!
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that's why you eventually drop 90% of them so it's manageable. there's a lot of "recycling" and ultimately a lot of the shows end up being mediocre and forgettable that get unfairly hyped up simply because people are so intent on being included in the conversation surrounding currently airing anime.

for me it stopped being worth it so i just stopped watching seasonal. i'm just going back and checking out all the stuff that still get even mentioned now instead of trying to keep up with 40+ new shows every season.

all I know is that the ReLIFE OVAs come out in a couple days and Full Metal Panic IV starts next month
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I was actually planning to start the ReLIFE manga today but it didn't happen. Maybe I'll find time tomorrow.
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kateee posted...

that's why you eventually drop 90% of them so it's manageable. there's a lot of "recycling" and ultimately a lot of the shows end up being mediocre and forgettable that get unfairly hyped up simply because people are so intent on being included in the conversation surrounding currently airing anime.

for me it stopped being worth it so i just stopped watching seasonal. i'm just going back and checking out all the stuff that still get even mentioned now instead of trying to keep up with 40+ new shows every season.

I did drop two and probably should have dropped one other, but still, I don't regret watching so many. My two favorites this season (Katana Maidens and Yuru Camp) were huge surprises that I might not have found if I didn't try to see as much as I could, and even the underwhelming ones have been a learning experience. My only real mistake was watching them as they aired when I'm built more for binging. Next season I'll only keep up with a few and then watch the rest once they end.
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yeah i'm not saying you don't bother checking them out at all. i still check out a couple handful every per season way later after it's aired. but the retention rate is not high at all. once you have a few series under your belt, you can pick out the bad ones much sooner. and the 3 episode "rule" some people cite is dumb. there are shows where it's not justifiable to watch 1 whole episode much less 3.

i wholeheartedly agree with binging as opposed to watching weekly though.

I can't imagine watching that many different shows at the same time
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i end up juggling a lot more at the same time than i used to because it seems like my attention span has suffered as time's passed (includes games, anime, shows, books). on the other hand when i get to something that really captures my attention and i'm actually hooked it's great because it happens so rarely now.

kateee posted...

once you have a few series under your belt, you can pick out the bad ones much sooner. and the 3 episode "rule" some people cite is dumb. there are shows where it's not justifiable to watch 1 whole episode much less 3.

I can see the logic of the three episode rule since there are a lot of shows I didn't love right away, including some of my current favorites. Plus I can (usually...) pick out the ones that aren't worthy of three episodes before I even start watching them.

Also, I do have a few shows under my belt now! I'm still a relative beginner but I've finished almost eighty anime.
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I don't know that my attention span has changed significantly. I've just never been one to just dabble in stuff and try to figure out what sticks. I tend to get an idea of whether I'll like something or not before I even watch it or play it, which is why I seldom play or watch something I hate.
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yeah the 3 episode rule is really meant for shows that you feel might be on the cusp of being worthwhile. it's when it gets cited as if applies universally that it gets dumb.

have you checked out K-On yet roba? i think you might like it based on your list.

or these:
Nozaki
Madoka
Love Lab
Kiznaiver
Hibike Euphonium
Non Non Biyori

LeonhartFour posted...

I tend to get an idea of whether I'll like something or not before I even watch it or play it, which is why I seldom play or watch something I hate.

i feel similarly too. but even when i weed out all the obvious stuff i know i won't care for there's still a lot left.

Love Lab is more of a "watch three episodes of this show and then drop it regardless of how much you like it" type show since it gets so bad later on. Can't remember exactly how long it stays good, but man, it just throws away everything that made it entertaining at the start...
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kateee posted...

yeah the 3 episode rule is really meant for shows that you feel might be on the cusp of being worthwhile. it's when it gets cited as if applies universally that it gets dumb.

have you checked out K-On yet roba? i think you might like it based on your list.

or these:
Nozaki
Madoka
Love Lab
Kiznaiver
Hibike Euphonium
Non Non Biyori

K-On is one I hope to watch within the near future! Of the others I've seen Madoka and Sound Euphonium. Madoka was fine but Yuki Yuna is s Hero was more my style of dark magical girls. Sound Euphonium was mostly fine but it got too bogged down in bad drama in the second season. I'll look into the others and probably add them to my list though, thanks!
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Nozaki good show

excellent OP
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Mobilezoid posted...

Sound Euphonium was mostly fine but it got too bogged down in bad drama in the second season.

Hmm, but you have both seasons scored the same on MAL? What's up with that?
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oh i didn't bother watching the second season after like two eps.

Mac Arrowny posted...

Hmm, but you have both seasons scored the same on MAL? What's up with that?

I combine all seasons/OVAs/movies/etc (basically anything that isn't a complete spinoff) into one entry and then rate that. Euph S2 dragged S1 from 5/10 to 3/10. Chunibyo S2 lifted S1 from 6/10 to 8/10. The only exception to this is The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya being 10/10 while the series is only 9/10 because the movie is so good that it doesn't deserve to have a point docked because of endless eight.
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you're right it doesn't

all of Haruhi is a 10/10
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Robazoid posted...

Mac Arrowny posted...

Hmm, but you have both seasons scored the same on MAL? What's up with that?

I combine all seasons/OVAs/movies/etc (basically anything that isn't a complete spinoff) into one entry and then rate that. Euph S2 dragged S1 from 5/10 to 3/10. Chunibyo S2 lifted S1 from 6/10 to 8/10. The only exception to this is The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya being 10/10 while the series is only 9/10 because the movie is so good that it doesn't deserve to have a point docked because of endless eight.

I feel like that makes no sense and doesn't allow for cases when you drop S2 partway through...
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That's just how I do it. I feel like it would get too complicated to keep track of otherwise. I haven't encountered a situation where I drop a second season or anything like that, though.

I do the same thing with video games too. I rank Trails in the Sky FC/SC as a single entry and Cold Steel 1/2 as a single entry, for example.
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the entire FF series is a 10/10 because of Lightning Returns

you heard it here first
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LeonhartFour posted...

the entire FF series is a 10/10 because of Lightning Returns

you heard it here first

man lightning can't carry final fantasy that far
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Final Fantasy games count as sequels or spin-offs and are ranked separately. Look I know it might not make a whole lot of sense from the outside but my ranking systems for things are consistent and well thought out. This sort of stuff is often all I have to do when I get bored at work.

Also XIII is the highest rated at 99/100, Lightning Returns and X-2 are both 97/100.
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xp1337 posted...

man lightning can't carry final fantasy that far

one of the truest things you've ever posted in these topics
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