Board 8 > SaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Frasier in the Sky Edition [SELF]

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Loved it, seen it more than once

Ace Attorney
Clannad
Cowboy Bebop
Full Metal Panic!
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Hyouka
Kanon
Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior
My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
Persona 4 The Animation
ReLIFE
Sailor Moon
School Rumble
Steins;Gate
The Disappearance of Yuki Nagato
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Toradora!
Tsuredure Children
Working!!

Really liked it, will watch again

Angel Beats
Attack on Titan
Baccano!
Eureka Seven
Fate/stay night
Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo
Planetes
Psycho-Pass
Usagi Drop

Liked it, but probably won't watch again

Air
Azumanga Daioh
Fate/Zero
Great Teacher Onizuka
Love Hina
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Ouran High School Host Club
Sweetness & Lightning
Trigun
Tsukigakirei
Your Lie in April
Yu Yu Hakusho

Didn't like it, definitely won't watch again

Beyond the Boundary
Code Geass
Persona 4 The Golden Animation

Dropped it, never finished

Fullmetal Alchemist
Gurren Lagann
Slayers

New and Improved Female Character Rankings 2.0

Nagato > Maya > Yakumo > Kurisu > Chizuru > Yukiko > Fina > Aqua > Makoto > Shoko > Mitsuru > Yui > Takano > Yachiyo > Shiori > Eru > Wagatsuma > Ritsu > Akane > Pepper > Amy > Rin > Namine > Mitsuha > Peach > Botan > Yurippe > Mikasa > Eureka > Art3mis > Valentine > Mizuno > Zelda > Vera > Elizabeth > Cora > Kotori
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Tough call between Kurisu and Makoto. Voted Makoto but already questioning it.
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Leon, sell me on Makoto
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trdl23 posted...

Leon, sell me on Makoto

selling people on waifus isn't the kind of thing I typically do

but uh she's smart funny likes long walks on the beach rides a motorcycle Persona has an excellent voice

her hair could stand to be longer but that's the only real drawback
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LeonhartFour posted...

rides a motorcycle Persona

real talk i was mad when her persona evolved

such a downgrade
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I like Makoto when she's pretending to read manga while stalking your party.
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xp1337 posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

rides a motorcycle Persona

real talk i was mad when her persona evolved

such a downgrade

Yeah, on my NG+, it was a super difficult decision trying to decide when exactly to max out Makoto's S. Link because I didn't want the motorcycle to go away.
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Kurisu > Aqua > Maya > Hishiro > Nagato > Shoko > Yukiko > Characters I don't know > Makoto
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Oh I guess I can do a ranking to.

Kurisu > Shoko > Makoto > Yakumo > Yukiko > Maya > Chizuru > Nagato

Don't know the other two.
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Kurisu > Chizuru > Shoko > Makoto > Yakumo > Nagato > Yukiko > Maya

Haven't played SoA or the KH spinoffs. Kurisu I love. Some of the others are pretty good.
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Kurisu > Nagato > Maya > Yukiko

Also now that I've been reminded of it I'll try to get back to Clannad in the next few days and post comments here. I didn't mean to take such a long break but I'd just finished the Ryou route, which was satisfying enough as an ending, and the next route in line was some character I'd never even met, which was hard to get excited for!
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the topic purged and i don't want to make a new one so i'll just post this here.

i shipped the keychains today. expected delivery date is friday. except for the guy up north. no idea when that would happen.

sweet, can't wait for my Joker keychain
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Makoto >= Kurisu > Yukiko > Maya > Yakumo > Nagato > Fina

First six are pretty good and I need to replay Skies at some point.
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Aw yeah got my Gladiator Headband again

feels good man
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Yakumo Tsukamoto
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Thank you for the Yakumo vote.
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Also, speaking of Bloodborne, apparently it's one of the free PS+ games next month, so maybe I should pick it up.

And the Ratchet & Clank PS4 game is one of them, too, so you all should get that if you haven't.
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bloodborne is a top tier game

more people playing it is always a good thing
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Okay, I'm done with Doki Doki Literature Club now that I have achieved the SPECIAL ENDING. As far as my thoughts on it, I thought it was worth playing one time. I doubt I'd ever play this again, but it did some interesting things that take advantage of the visual novel format. So yeah, if you like VNs and you're on the fence about it, I'd say give it a shot just for the experience. Once will probably be enough for you.

As far as characters go: Yuri > Monika > Sayori > Natsuki, I guess...?

I suppose I can add Yuri to the overall rankings, too.

Nagato > Maya > Yakumo > Kurisu > Chizuru > Yukiko > Fina > Aqua > Makoto > Shoko > Mitsuru > Yui > Takano > Yachiyo > Shiori > Eru > Wagatsuma > Ritsu > Akane > Pepper > Amy > Rin > Namine > Mitsuha > Peach > Botan > Yurippe > Mikasa > Eureka > Art3mis > Valentine > Mizuno > Zelda > Vera > Elizabeth > Yuri > Cora > Kotori
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wow my prediction was wrong
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Sayori = Monika >>> Yuri > Natsuki imho

I'm glad you enjoyed it! I thought it was a really unique experience back when I played it
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my rankings:

monika
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I didn't really like Monika that much. Yuri was really the only one I thought was that likable beyond being a plot device.

and I didn't really say anything about enjoying it! I just said it was worth playing.
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yeah I thought the premise of the game rested on making the player feel sympathy and gain attachment toward monika, that's why I thought you wouldn't enjoy it (since I didn't think you'd like her)
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it's kind of hard to feel sympathetic toward someone like Monika all things considered but I'm not entirely sure I agree that I'm supposed to either

but I guess I'm in the minority on that
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Oh, I forgot to mention it in the last topic, but I think you're okay about Gambler Jack. IIRC, Vol 2 stays in the casino rewards so you can pick it up much later when you can revisit the casino. Not 100% sure, but yeah.
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It comes down to if you think Monika is HAL 9000 with boobs, or if you think she's a desperate entity in the middle of a legitimate existential crisis who will do anything to find some grounding in reality.
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Bloodborne progress: Definitely feel like I put a lot of lessons from watching that video to use while exploring Cathedral Ward. Still a lot of silly deaths at times, but I think that's just part of the experience. Found two different lamps to new areas but I've stuck in Cathedral Ward for now. Found and fought Vicar Amelia, died both times. First was "oh here's the boss" and was mostly a learning run where I tried to figure out the different attacks. Second taught me that I think I'm a bit too passive still. I definitely dealt more than enough damage to win, but couldn't outpace her self-healing. I feel I should definitely win either next time or the time after (depends how much muscle memory I "forgot" since last time.) I'd 100% win if I figure out the Visceral timing/distance because I did it by accident near the end of the second attempt and was shocked I could (also this is definitely how I beat Gasciogne the last time.) Still probably win if I look at my consumables because I recall picking up some items that said they block healing. Finally I could just get better and find more opportunities to simply attack and win that way. That feels like the ideal solution but yeah. To be fair, towards the end of the second run I started experimenting with that as I realized I wasn't doing enough DPS but yeah.

Other highlights~

I got killed by a UFO or something when picking up an item earlier in the Cathedral Ward. Just beamed up into the sky and dead. Later I had a similar death when I was exploring and found a locked door, but this one seemed a bit more telegraphed. Some blue portal appeared and then I got sucked up and killed by some... thing... on the roof. I don't recall any such signs the first time but maybe it was similar?

Ran into some hunter jerk with a shotgun or something. this was literally harder than any fight in the cathedral ward, and i'm including vicar amelia if only because that fight makes sense to me even though i never died to this guy. this guy just dodged and parried everything and liked to spam shots up to 7 times in a row. I also could never figure out his tell when he'd go melee fast enough to parry myself. If I could tell, it was too late, I'd get hit first. Thankfully he seemed to be a mini-boss or something and does not respawn. still what a pain he was.
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trdl23 posted...

It comes down to if you think Monika is HAL 9000 with boobs, or if you think she's a desperate entity in the middle of a legitimate existential crisis who will do anything to find some grounding in reality.

I...don't think it matters to me either way which one she is?
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Monika is far too yandere to get my sympathy
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Janus5k posted...

Monika is far too yandere to get my sympathy

Yeah, I think this is what it comes down to for me. Yanderes are beyond my range of positive emotion.
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Still continuing to listen to the FFXV soundtrack. Man, it has some great battle themes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAu2l0gsFZo

This sounds like something straight out of Kingdom Hearts, actually.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Janus5k posted...

Monika is far too yandere to get my sympathy

Yeah, I think this is what it comes down to for me. Yanderes are beyond my range of positive emotion.

I dunno. I just don't think Monika is actually in love with the player so that label doesn't feel right.
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xp1337 posted...

Ran into some hunter jerk with a shotgun or something. this was literally harder than any fight in the cathedral ward, and i'm including vicar amelia if only because that fight makes sense to me even though i never died to this guy. this guy just dodged and parried everything and liked to spam shots up to 7 times in a row. I also could never figure out his tell when he'd go melee fast enough to parry myself. If I could tell, it was too late, I'd get hit first. Thankfully he seemed to be a mini-boss or something and does not respawn. still what a pain he was.

there's a number of different hunters you can encounter and fight over the course of the game. rifle spear hunter is probably one of the more difficult ones for me, at least as far as a 1 v 1 fight. basically for the exact reasons you mentioned. I was actually just fighting him again yesterday on a casual run that I'm doing and I was thinking about this as well.

Numbing Mist is the item that blocks healing. good catch on noticing that. I never used it on my first run because I just assumed it wouldn't work on a boss. whoops. your other options are to simply pile on damage while she's casting the heal, since she won't counter attack or dodge during the entire length of the animation. this will usually cause her to only heal like 1/4 of the amount she's trying to heal because your damage offsets her healing by a good amount. or simply kill her so fast that she never gets to the stage where she'll heal during the fight. using Fire Paper will greatly boost your damage output. you should have picked some up along the way.

exploring the side areas that you currently have access to is a great way to find upgrade materials so you can improve your weapon and greatly improve your damage. as a rule of thumb -- explore as much as possible and then fight the boss after you've found all of the items available.

there's also people who you can find and send back to the cathedral ward. make sure you're knocking on the different doors and windows with the lamps burning outside of them!
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also worth mentioning if you purchased the DLC you can access it pretty much right after defeating amelia, although you will struggle with the difficulty level if your build is not optimized at this point in the game. it's probably not, being your first run. so yeah coming back later would likely be a good idea.

(I'm talking about like enemies that will 1-2 shot you and take 10-15 hits to kill as the basic regular enemies that populate the level... at least with what I imagine your current stats to be like)
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trdl23 posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Janus5k posted...

Monika is far too yandere to get my sympathy

Yeah, I think this is what it comes down to for me. Yanderes are beyond my range of positive emotion.

I dunno. I just don't think Monika is actually in love with the player so that label doesn't feel right.

did we play the same game

because I don't know how you can say that if we did unless you're just accusing Monika of lying about everything and I don't see a reason to do that

but even if you want to avoid that label I still couldn't find it in me to feel bad for her considering all she did
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LeonhartFour posted...

trdl23 posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Janus5k posted...

Monika is far too yandere to get my sympathy

Yeah, I think this is what it comes down to for me. Yanderes are beyond my range of positive emotion.

I dunno. I just don't think Monika is actually in love with the player so that label doesn't feel right.

did we play the same game

because I don't know how you can say that if we did unless you're just accusing Monika of lying about everything and I don't see a reason to do that

but even if you want to avoid that label I still couldn't find it in me to feel bad for her considering all she did

Not lying, no. Being mistaken. Confusing infatuation and her craving for something real with love because she doesnt know the difference.
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I don't remember anything like that being in the game
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whoops I just realized I let SaveEstelle's song ranking topic purge

I'm a bad friend
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trdl23 posted...

Not lying, no. Being mistaken. Confusing infatuation and her craving for something real with love because she doesnt know the difference.

Most yanderes are infatuated with their objects of affection.
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Just... forget it. Ill go back to lurking.
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trdl23 posted...

Ill go back to lurking.

why
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because anime
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Ill just gtfo if thats what you want.
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...that's not what I want and I'm not sure where you got that idea other than the fact that we don't agree

believe it or not I don't actually have a problem with people who don't share the same opinion as me

I was asking why you suddenly feel the need to retreat instead of actually contributing, which is what I want this topic to be about
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it was kind of PayPal to give me $5 for my birthday

it's almost like PayPal is my grandma although even she at least gives me $20 I mean come on
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MariaTaylor posted...

there's also people who you can find and send back to the cathedral ward. make sure you're knocking on the different doors and windows with the lamps burning outside of them!

talking to npcs is what i live for. i've been on top of this (i think) (also things aren't going well for most of them)

Don't have the DLC but I'll probably pick it up sooner or later. Wanted to make sure I enjoyed the game first since this is my first experience with a Souls game so I didn't know what to expect. But I'm liking this, so yeah.

Bloodborne Progress: I feel like I got quite a bit done! 3 bosses down and 2 more areas explored.

Beat Vicar Amelia when I started up, but it was a super sloppy fight. Apparently I forgot everything I learned the other day. Combination of the Fire Paper and Numbing Mist did the trick but ugh I was so bad. The cutscene after felt like it was the solution to the password locked door I found earlier and it was. But oh my god. During exploration I never got caught by that Cthulhu guy. what the hell. he took my insight too =(

So I unlocked the Forbidden Wood lamp but my RPG senses told me that with 3 different areas available, I should go to them in roughly the order I think they were easily accessible. So I went to Old Yharnam first since I ran into that area almost immediately on entering Cathedral Ward. Gatling Guns are cheap but it was kinda fun running from cover to cover. I also learned that you can jump. kinda. I've noticed for a while sometimes I'd jump and decided to work it out once I saw an item just out of my "roll off the edge" range. I haven't gone in 100% blind so I left the gatling gun guy alone for now. Found another of those rifle spear hunters but I could cheese this one by getting him to follow me down some stairs and trapping him there. And when he got out, he'd run back to let me do it again. how kind. Anyway, made it to Blood-starved Beast and I'm assuming this is considered one of the easier bosses? Because I styled all over him first time with little difficulty.

So next on my "areas I can go" list was Hemwick Lane. This felt like a short and straightforward area. Got through it quickly and again beat the Witch of Hemwick first try with pretty much no trouble. I actually spent a while fighting the mobs until I realized that they were being spawned about as fast as I could beat them, but they wouldn't even drop echoes.

oh and while talking to npcs some jerk tried to kill me. However, it taught me something from an earlier session. That thing that killed me is called Amygdala. Only this time it teleported me to a school or something. I explored it and it was even shorter and I winded up somewhere else. Only I don't think I'm in Kansas anymore. Went back to the Hunter's Dream and saw these areas correlate to a much "later" tombstone so I guess I'll come back later?
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xp1337 posted...

Found another of those rifle spear hunters but I could cheese this one by getting him to follow me down some stairs and trapping him there. And when he got out, he'd run back to let me do it again. how kind. Anyway, made it to Blood-starved Beast and I'm assuming this is considered one of the easier bosses? Because I styled all over him first time with little difficulty.

So next on my "areas I can go" list was Hemwick Lane. This felt like a short and straightforward area. Got through it quickly and again beat the Witch of Hemwick first try with pretty much no trouble. I actually spent a while fighting the mobs until I realized that they were being spawned about as fast as I could beat them, but they wouldn't even drop echoes.

the general progression would be Old Yharnam, then Hemwick, then Amelia. I'm guessing you bought the Hunter Chief Emblem for 10,000 echoes in order to open the gate, but if you kill the Bloodstarved Beast this opens up the door in Cathedral Ward that leads to an alternate path you can use to get into central yharnam without paying to open the gate. so basically the reason Bloodstarved Beast felt easy for you is that he was designed to fight with a +2/+3 weapon at a fairly low level, and I'm assuming you have a +5/+6 weapon and you're a medium level.

xp1337 posted...

However, it taught me something from an earlier session. That thing that killed me is called Amygdala. Only this time it teleported me to a school or something. I explored it and it was even shorter and I winded up somewhere else. Only I don't think I'm in Kansas anymore. Went back to the Hunter's Dream and saw these areas correlate to a much "later" tombstone so I guess I'll come back later?

so when the guy first talks to you about amygdala he gives you a tonsil stone. this stone allows the amygdala to grab you and take you to the lecture hall.

getting into the DLC uses a similar function with the player getting an item after beating amelia, and this item allows a different amygdala to grab you and teleport you to the hunter's nightmare

^just for the record these spoilers should be safe for you to read, I just marked them out for other people's sake who may not have played the game yet.
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Oh. lol that explains it. >_>

Yeah, I think my weapon (Threaded Cane) started at +5 and ended up at +6 at the end.
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