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ColZach
11/24/18 7:36:31 PM
#251:


Great post with citations and points made.

Sorry, youre wrong. This meta is balanced between control and aggro.

Id ask you to elaborate your points but Im not really interested anymore.
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MariaTaylor
11/24/18 7:45:06 PM
#252:


okay professor
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Camden
11/24/18 8:18:27 PM
#253:


The meta might be balanced, doesn't mean it's not shit.
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hockeydude15
11/24/18 9:17:32 PM
#256:


https://hsreplay.net/meta/

Anyone who thinks this is a control meta has legit no clue what they're talking about.


That takes in account all ranks which will always be misleading since the best way to get through anything below rank 5 is just to play aggro. Below that rank everyone is either trash at the game or playing bad decks, both of which aggro decks just destroy and are quick wins on top of it. I mean I'm sitting at rank 20 right now because I hate constructed but could bet you i'd win 80% of my zoolock games up to rank 10 at least which is not a good reflection on what the meta actually is at high ranks.
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hockeydude15
11/24/18 9:38:53 PM
#258:


And when people talk about "The meta" no one really gives two shits what people at rank 15 are doing since it's pretty irrelevant, which is why that link you posted is completely useless.
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hockeydude15
11/24/18 10:06:57 PM
#260:


People at low ranks can still have fun, but the outcome of games that at those ranks show very little on how good decks are against each other because of the quality of play. And again when people look to see what the best decks are no one cares about what is winning at rank 15 because it is much less the deck that is winning rather than the person who is playing it at that point.
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VeryInsane
11/24/18 11:29:45 PM
#261:


Whether you think this is a control meta depends on if you classify Even Warlock and Druid as Control decks
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metroid composite
11/25/18 2:31:08 AM
#264:


UltimaterializerX posted...
"The meta" does not mean "the meta at high ranks only". Those two terms might as well be talking about two different games.

But "use aggro at low ranks" has been true in like every fucking game ever.

In pokemon smogon ladder people use blitz teams to climb the ladder until they are facing competent opponents.

In Starcraft 2, you can rush every game when you're low on the ladder and climb fast.

In every game with a ladder, people at low ranks will try to do weird stuff, so just kill them fast before they can get their weird plans online, and then play for real when you get to high ranks.
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metroid composite
11/25/18 2:40:12 AM
#265:


(Also, for the record, I'm not too blown away by a hunter draw 3 card. I've got a dragon hunter and a cube hunter, both of which barely run beasts, so that's a nope on those decks. What other hunter archetypes are there...well Spell Hunter doesn't want it.... A hunter deck with a bunch of beasts in it might such a card, but ehh...it would also need to not run Houndmaster, or Houndmaster Shaw).
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MariaTaylor
11/25/18 6:50:53 AM
#266:


lmao poor duncebane rogue has no idea what to do when he's not auto winning against a control deck
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KokoroAkechi
11/25/18 10:48:07 AM
#268:


Had a game vs toggwaggle

https://imgur.com/a/gLgfNv3
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HanOfTheNekos
11/25/18 11:09:19 AM
#269:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Malygos Druid dead to rights. He had to play Malygos the normal way and pray.

He of course top decks both Seipe, because hEaRtHsToN iZ sKiLl


you are such a dweeb
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Wedge Antilles
11/25/18 2:04:24 PM
#270:


DisguisedToast just revealed the new rogue legendary.

Captain Hooktusk

8 mana 6/3

Battlecry: Summon 3 pirates from your deck, the gain rush.
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davidponte
11/25/18 3:03:11 PM
#274:


have you tried drawing better
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hockeydude15
11/25/18 3:13:26 PM
#275:


Should probably play a better deck.
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GildedFool
11/25/18 3:24:04 PM
#276:


Have you considered playing a different game where your superior skill can have an effect?
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VeryInsane
11/25/18 4:57:46 PM
#282:


Been playing Kingdom Hearts II, its been pretty fun, more than I expected though the plot is a tad silly (I guess I might as well run through each one before III comes out)

Maybe I touch Birth by Sleep next, maybe I just take a short break
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SaintAkira7
11/25/18 5:17:26 PM
#285:


I think I've logged into Hearthstone twice since RDR2 released. The world R* has created is astounding. Just an impressive feat in game design. There's a few nits to pick with the controls, most of them being context sensitive inputs being a pain sometimes, but I just get lost in the world doing my own thing. Been in chapter 2 for like 20 hours. Almost got all the satchels.
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davidponte
11/25/18 8:25:04 PM
#298:


lmao
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metroid composite
11/25/18 8:25:11 PM
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SaintAkira7 posted...
I think I've logged into Hearthstone twice since RDR2 released. The world R* has created is astounding. Just an impressive feat in game design. There's a few nits to pick with the controls, most of them being context sensitive inputs being a pain sometimes, but I just get lost in the world doing my own thing. Been in chapter 2 for like 20 hours. Almost got all the satchels.

As an RDR2 dev, I encourage this behaviour!

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Meanwhile, I'm sick in bed playing whatever I can reach, which is hearthstone...

So...my anti-aggro tuned cube hunter started losing a bit more than it was winning (maybe 40% winrate today), and when I start losing I get stubborn and play more and tune my deck, which I did, and caved and actually gave in and craft Shaw. (Have not crafted Kathrena, though; probably won't as she's rotating in the spring).

-1 Defender of Argus
-1 Hunter's Mark
-1 Savannah Highmane
+1 Shaw
+1 Zilliax
+1 Lich King

I just had a few too many games in a row where I had nothing on the board turn 4, and Argus in hand. Shaw as a 3/6 taunt that seems to be scary enough that people will hellfire to kill only it was a big step up.

Hunter's Mark...I'm not facing a lot of giants, and I am facing a lot of odd paladin; down to 1. I'm skittish about cutting to 0.

Highmane is still a good cube target, but geez, I died to aggro several times with one or two highmanes in hand. Wanted more anti-aggro stuff. Lich King is also a spectacular cube target, that also happens to have taunt. I almost wonder if I should cut the second highmane for another big taunt. Hmm...Primordial Drake maybe? I've done Hunter with primordial drake before, and it's worked out reasonably well.

I could go harder on the anti-aggro by putting secrets back in and cutting Keleseth, but last time I had secrets I literally did not have enough high value plays to threaten anything.
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