Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events

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htaeD posted...

Uhh when IS his morning?

well if he's going to bed now, probably around 9pm EST
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Lea3Lea posted...

Hey someone remind me why no one thinks Puns is scum, I forget

This is basically the eternal question at the center of my mafia career

I forgot why. But I had reasons.
<.<
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MZero11 posted...

Tom I am going to bed

okay let's all get off mzero he's town
(this is a joke)
(no really it's a joke)
(lookin' at you cam and lopen)
(because I will suspect you will not understand that this is a joke)

Obellisk posted...

MZero11 posted...

Tom I am going to bed

Good Night, Mzero, good work, sleep well, i'll most likely kill you in the morning.

that's my joke you can't have it

I suspect puns is town because SOMEBODY has to be
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I may be flighty but I'm real good at playing chicken. See: day one. THE MZERO DIES, SHE SAID WITH FAKE CAPS FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT

Hey corrik, why were you so sure there couldnt be a miller again?
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personally, with it being Day 3 and no cop scans, i dont want to believe there is one.

But i am NOT going down that hole. I've been in enough holes as it is.
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Cams role kinda makes me think 5tar is our cop.
Not a very good one though if half the time he only gets books instead of quotes
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htaeD posted...

Hey corrik, why were you so sure there couldnt be a miller again?

Because his flavor involved death

Yes, that is a horrible reason

"Oh"
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htaeD posted...

Cams role kinda makes me think 5tar is our cop.
Not a very good one though if half the time he only gets books instead of quotes

yeah but a miller doesn't matchup with a flavor cop.

So either han is punishing us with red herrings or there is no miller.
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Well there's nobody claiming miller so that lines up.

We're saying Cam is a non-conventional "miller" (not actually a miller, I'm not sure why cam keeps getting hung up on the "why didn't host tell me I'm a miller" point) because he's a flavor who would seem to fit better with mafia.

Unconventional because voldemort wouldn't immediately know to claim anything since they're just vanilla, and it unfolds organically as the game plays out

turbopuns3 posted...

Well there's nobody claiming miller so that lines up.

We're saying Cam is a non-conventional "miller" (not actually a miller, I'm not sure why cam keeps getting hung up on the "why didn't host tell me I'm a miller" point) because he's a flavor who would seem to fit better with mafia.

Unconventional because voldemort wouldn't immediately know to claim anything since they're just vanilla, and it unfolds organically as the game plays out

Oh, oh oh oh oh, Ok, I have been like completely lost on this issue then. jeebus.

Cam being Voldemort and TOWN and 5tar the Flavor Cop matches up perfectly and makes complete sense.

(tiny voice in back of head: Cam and 5tar are scum together and murdering Red with a lie was all part of the plan.
Me: Stop it tiny voice STOP IT)

So miller claim was redacted?
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Puns took it back yeah
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sounds familiar, i think i might have had words about it, or maybe i just thought them.

lying about a miller claim. oh yeah, i voted him for it.

whatever.

so far it just feels like everyone is lying about something this game.
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Obellisk posted...

MZero11 posted...
Scare getting shot N1 as vanilla two games in a row is pretty clutch btw

And gloating. The kind of thing he should keep to the scum board.

He is gloating in favor of scare, not scum.
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htaeD posted...

Hey corrik, why were you so sure there couldnt be a miller again?

Common sense from the out of topic commentary that strongman without a way to somehow handicap it and miller weren't gonna be in the game. At least not in their normal capacities. My role confirmed the strongman part alrdy. The miller is just a natural extension.
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turbopuns3 posted...

htaeD posted...

Hey corrik, why were you so sure there couldnt be a miller again?

Because his flavor involved death

Yes, that is a horrible reason

Lol what
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Tom Bombadil posted...

(lookin' at you cam and lopen)
(because I will suspect you will not understand that this is a joke)

How dare you I have never interrogated you over a joke.

Also getting off Mzero is legit good advice
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What if Mzero and Sbell both claim?
You could say they should do a... sametime. :^)
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Not a fan of out of game information being used, but what can ya do..
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Votals (as of post 420 blaze it)
(5) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, (Corrik), Corrik, Death
(4) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, Lea, (Corrik), Ben, SBell
(2) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), (SBell), Tom, Lopen, (Lea)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT, roughly 6 hours, or if majority is reached ahead of time.
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Hbthebattle posted...

What if Mzero and Sbell both claim?
You could say they should do a... sametime. :^)

what if SBell already claimed and you didn't read it?
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Mzero hasn't posted after this time once this game. And especially not today. The man is bulletproof.

##Unvote

##Vote: Lolo

did you just unvote mzero because he lives in another country?
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For now. I may yet kill him in the evening

But he ain't gonna do anything helpful and Lolo has a bit of a chance of being town. Maybe he'll show it. Chris sure liked him defending red day one after all

Puns seriously just made up a reason I suspected him to say my reason didn't make sense. I never at any point said what he said. Lol
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Hbthebattle posted...

What if Mzero and Sbell both claim?
You could say they should do a... sametime. :^)

What if anybody read the game ever
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Obellisk posted...

So either han is punishing us with red herrings

The main point is already moot but I wouldn't put some twists past Han

[Insert aim joke here]
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oh sbell claimed, boo
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>_>
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I mean, i'll do it all over again and say something different this time.

Thats sorta what we do in mafia.
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I am not sure sbell was serious.
Not sure since I tend to miss things too..

That said I see Lea is employing the deathmethod of not voting someone who cant respond..

Though I am inclined to forego it for Mzero because he had plenty of chances to claim.

Also the more I read of past sbell, the more I at least like him over players like Lolo, mzero and Hb (admittedly Mzero claims to have had a busy workday. But that cant have lasted him 3 days can it?)
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5tarscream posted...

Thats more what I was asking pez yeah.

So here comes my favourite question. Can you tell me 1 person whose read would be changed by both a town flip lolo and a scum flip lolo
This isnt just pez feel free to join in everyone

I dunno about town flip

But :

Topic 5 - Post 333
Lea3Lea lists top 5 Mafia suspects:
4. Red13n
6. SBell (Obellisk)
8. MZero
19. Luis_Sera
20. Lolo_Guru

I think Lea has been accurate this game, and if Lolo flips Mafia it will look exceptionally good for her

I mean, Obellisk or Lolo, or MZero flipping Mafia here would be pretty good for Lea

I *think* we've had pretty similar reads all game, and that's probably more of a mind meld thing which is good

Use this at 450:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77820961

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Lea3Lea posted...

Hey someone remind me why no one thinks Puns is scum, I forget

My read on Puns was similar to Corrik. Puns at the start of the game had a couple of different motivations for his play.

He was scum getting ahead of a cop, and possible gauging people's reactions to fish for roles. Millers apparently rarely get lynched so this is fairly safe play.

He was actually miller with a weird role. This he has since moved away from. But at the time from our perspective we weren't sure how to respond to it. We didn't know about the flavor split yet.

Finally he was town lying about his role. He could have been town power. He could have been plain villager.

I'd say all of those have relatively similar likelihoods, at the beginning of the game anyway.

But even though the middle one has been disproven at this point, I think it still has merit in our discussion. Particularly I found it interesting since most of us immediately found his claim odd. Most of us are characters, with some exceptions that weren't voiced at the time. Given all of this at the time and still now I felt like his flavor did not come from the safe list. I thought then and now that typically fake claims that avoid the safelist are town. That's my starting point a strong town lean. Nothing he's done since then as moved me in the other direction.
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got bad news for you.

I guarantee you can not get 100% for lea with me on that lynch.
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Corrik7 posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Hey someone remind me why no one thinks Puns is scum, I forget

Cuz he "claimed miller".

No other reason exists.

Topic 1 - Post 95
Luis Sera Throws suspicion on Turbopuns

Topic 1 - Post 123
Luis Sera Justifies suspicion on Turbopuns

Topic 7 - Post 137
Luis Sera Suggests they Lynch Puns over Ben

Corrik7 posted...

Puns seriously just made up a reason I suspected him to say my reason didn't make sense. I never at any point said what he said. Lol

I assumed that is what you meant when you said this

Corrik7 posted...

Chris was strongmanned Night 1.

I am Town Chronomancer
Emily Dickson poem about death (hence it could be looked at as bad as I said).

That to meant that's why you thought I wasn't a miller

UltimaterializerX posted...

Just got home. Stu claiming and Mzero refusing to means you kill MZero before Stu. Its basic mafia theory.

Hey Cam, is there a reason you now believe 5tars claim but magically snuck me onto a scum list? If youre mad at people who voted for you I get it, but believing 5tar while throwing shade at an innocent scan (I get hes a flavor cop but for all intents and purposes he scanned me innocent) is really odd.

I don't see interactions with Luis that would have cleared you

I also saw that you were sitting back early day 1, like Red and Luis

Just finding shapes that look the same

As for 5tarscream; I can rationalize that their role is a thing

Mostly because no one else stepped forward to say they were also evil flavored

Obellisk posted...

Also, for everyone playing at home.

MZero didn't address a single thing i said except me laughing at an mzeroless topic.

take note.

That's fair.

@Tom_Bombadil can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Camarija posted...

Mostly because no one else stepped forward to say they were also evil flavored

Do you actually read how terrible your logic is or no

I don't care

I believe their claim now

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

Also, for everyone playing at home.

MZero didn't address a single thing i said except me laughing at an mzeroless topic.

take note.

That's fair.

@Tom_Bombadil can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?

MZero did a better job of responding after SBell called him out for it.

I literally don't know what to do about SBell and MZero.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Camarija posted...

Mostly because no one else stepped forward to say they were also evil flavored

Do you actually read how terrible your logic is or no

OMG ME AND ULTI AGREE ON SOMETHING.

Sound the fucking horns.

Fire the fucking cannons.
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pezloco posted...

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

Also, for everyone playing at home.

MZero didn't address a single thing i said except me laughing at an mzeroless topic.

take note.

That's fair.

@Tom_Bombadil can you remind me why you think Lolo is scum? Was there much beyond third potter weirdness and absenteeism?

MZero did a better job of responding after SBell called him out for it.

I literally don't know what to do about SBell and MZero.

I'm not lynching a bodyguard claim today while we're ahead

It should be self-resolving ~74% of the time

Unofficial Votals (as of post 447)
(5) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, (Corrik), Corrik, Death
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, (Lea), (Corrik), Ben, SBell
(3) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), (SBell), Tom, Lopen, (Lea), Lea
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)
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