Current Events > Realpolitick nuked. (continued)

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SuperShake666
06/02/23 2:39:53 AM
#51:


@DToast Stop closing the containment boards. The refugees keep shitting up the rest of the boards.

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loafy013
06/02/23 3:44:21 AM
#52:


STEROLIZER posted...


To make the site friendly, and welcoming to new users. While also reengaging all the old users that left the platform because it got too angry & introverted.
Turn off adblock and tell me if the sex toy ads are friendly and welcoming to new users.

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HornyLevel
06/02/23 3:48:29 AM
#53:


This topic is

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STEROLIZER
06/02/23 4:07:39 AM
#54:


loafy013 posted...
Turn off adblock and tell me if the sex toy ads are friendly and welcoming to new users.

Brah, those are customized based on your internet search history

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Crazyman93
06/02/23 5:04:59 AM
#57:


If they aren't allowing communities centered around politics, why does CE still have a "Politics" flair?

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havean776
06/02/23 5:09:02 AM
#58:


If they are removing boards for toxic users why is the PS5 board still here?

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indica
06/02/23 5:10:24 AM
#59:


Crazyman93 posted...
If they aren't allowing communities centered around politics, why does CE still have a "Politics" flair?
Maybe they'll remove that next

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Foppe
06/02/23 5:10:45 AM
#60:


Crazyman93 posted...
If they aren't allowing communities centered around politics, why does CE still have a "Politics" flair?
Because DToast is a wiki user that knows nothing about this place.

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TheWizardOfOrz
06/02/23 5:21:12 AM
#61:


All reactionary comments aside about who is at fault for what..

I do find this disappointing since what has kept me on GameFAQs all these years is that it was a forum where you can discuss basically anything. I feel a lot of people are also here because of that feeling of freedom. When I first joined other forums all felt like you had to get to know the community and follow certain unwritten rules to fit in, but Gamefaqs was very welcoming.
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UnfairRepresent
06/02/23 5:28:00 AM
#62:


CE is so doomed lol

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Solpadeine
06/02/23 5:50:32 AM
#63:


These fandom texans are violently suppressing the woke underground. The Baader Whineoffs are regrouping on reddit.

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darkace77450
06/02/23 7:39:10 AM
#64:


Thunk00 posted...
If this is what passes for non-rulebreaking political discourse in 2023, perhaps we really are better off without it.

What part of that statement do you find objectionable, @Thunk00 ?

shnangyboos posted...
It's a private company that can allow or not allow whatever discussion it wants. Time to move on and stop "investigating" it, either keep posting but not about politics, or go to some other forum where you can wallow and drown in political arguments.

Until Twitter bans Donald Trump for inciting a deadly insurrection against the United States government. Then a private company banning a user is a violation of the first amendment and the Party of Limited Government starts threatening punitive action against the company.
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EdwardSnowedIn
06/02/23 7:41:08 AM
#65:


UnfairRepresent posted...
CE is so doomed lol

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Trouens-Kyk
06/02/23 7:44:49 AM
#66:


If this board makes it to the end of the year I'll be shocked.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
06/02/23 7:57:56 AM
#67:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Isn't he mid 20s? I think his lack of experience is really glaring in this situation

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ArsGoetia
06/02/23 8:25:24 AM
#69:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Isn't he mid 20s? I think his lack of experience is really glaring in this situation

gamefaqs has like 1-2k registered users on at any given time. the contribution community is on life support. you think they're gonna put some senior employee in here to manage it?
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hockeybub89
06/02/23 8:30:35 AM
#70:


If anything, they should relax the rules at this point, but I forgot I live on planet Earth and the Internet got ruined by capitalist bullshit like everything else.

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bfslick50
06/02/23 8:31:56 AM
#71:


From the end of the last topic...

STEROLIZER posted...
Hes just using common sense in order to grow the site, reengage old users, and attract a newer (younger) audience.

Hey there Twitch & TikTok community, would you like to take some time out of your day to discuss politics with a bunch of introverted middle-aged men?

Thats not a winning strategy. Not for user acquisition, nor atttacting advertisers. It certainly isnt conducive to reengaging all the registered users that no longer post here.

Just move onto reddit to get the politics fix. Let Fandom modernize and grow the site. I dont get being so mad at them for trying to monetize their asset.

Literally everything you said is wrong.

No one's first board is the Politics board. I was on this site close to 10 years before I knew there was a Politics board. Realpolitick was even more obscure. The presence of Realpolitick is not prominent enough to scare away new users.

If political discussions were scaring away new users then you should not want political discussions on any prominent board, which definitely includes Current Events.

Your biggest error is treating newer younger users as a monolith. There are more teenagers organizing anti-gun violence marches and other political movements than there were in my generation. It's certainly not the majority, but there has always been some young people that talk politics, and this generation has a bit more than normal. There's a shit ton of boards allowing them to find their own interests. Those that like politics can find their way there and those that don't could go elsewhere. Of course, they're all going elsewhere. Chasing away a sizeable portion of the existing user base isn't going to be the key to make young people suddenly want to come here.

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Mearcstapa
06/02/23 8:37:22 AM
#72:


Im just here to say fuck Fandom. What a shitty company.

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CSCA33
06/02/23 8:48:08 AM
#73:


These were arbitrary and biased targeted closures. None of the explanations given hold water whatsoever while boards like CE continue to remain open.

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ooger
06/02/23 9:04:16 AM
#74:


ChainsawFerret posted...
Not really. But given the link in your sig, I doubt you'd know what good business sense really is.
Careful, STEROLIZER gets really sad when you make fun of crypto/NFT scams.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
06/02/23 9:17:01 AM
#75:


bfslick50 posted...
From the end of the last topic...

Literally everything you said is wrong.

No one's first board is the Politics board. I was on this site close to 10 years before I knew there was a Politics board. Realpolitick was even more obscure. The presence of Realpolitick is not prominent enough to scare away new users.

If political discussions were scaring away new users then you should not want political discussions on any prominent board, which definitely includes Current Events.

Your biggest error is treating newer younger users as a monolith. There are more teenagers organizing anti-gun violence marches and other political movements than there were in my generation. It's certainly not the majority, but there has always been some young people that talk politics, and this generation has a bit more than normal. There's a shit ton of boards allowing them to find their own interests. Those that like politics can find their way there and those that don't could go elsewhere. Of course, they're all going elsewhere. Chasing away a sizeable portion of the existing user base isn't going to be the key to make young people suddenly want to come here.

Current Events absolutely should not be a politics board.

Throw this essay in the trash.

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chaos_knight
06/02/23 9:18:06 AM
#76:


GameFAQs was part of a bundle that I bet Fandom cares little about in terms of assets. Odds are they'll keep the FAQs but get rid of everything else within a year, if just not jettison the site entirely. By the end of the year, all message boards will be gone.

That said, now that I don't have a central hub for political news or just news in general...kind of like it. I don't really follow much of what is going on any more. If the world is going to hell anyway, better to be ignorant about the daily happenings and stop caring so much.

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ooger
06/02/23 9:19:06 AM
#77:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Current Events absolutely should not be a politics board.

Throw this essay in the trash.

It's defacto the new politics board due to removing a dedicated space to discuss politics.

Too bad, so sad.

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CSCA33
06/02/23 9:23:07 AM
#78:


Its always been a politics lite board, with misc. topics thrown in the mix. Its literally called current events with a sizable portion of threads consistently off topic yet still permitted.

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Board_hunter567
06/02/23 9:24:19 AM
#79:


Dylan is a straight up busta. I get he's a nepotism hire but he can at least try to do something actually useful. Take a class on effective and concise communication skills at the minimum.

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Strand
06/02/23 9:36:02 AM
#80:


Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Isn't he mid 20s? I think his lack of experience is really glaring in this situation
He lacks experience with GameFAQs, not with Fandom. He's been with Fandom since 2021, so he understands their policies more than SBAllen.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80356040

That's why I trust that his official statement reflects Fandom's actual policy. He stated that all politics boards were closed, not by virtue of being politics boards, but "specifically ones that violate our [Fandom's] terms of use by promoting abusive language."

As a Community Manager with Fandom, he's familiar with their policies and what terms 261 violated. But since he lacks experience with GameFAQs, he was mistaken about 261 being the only political discussion board here. And why other boards haven't been closed yet, despite being more toxic than 261.

That why neither SBAllen nor DToast have corrected or deleted the original announcement, even though it's been over two weeks. They can "clarify" things on CE, but they won't officially commit to banning politics-focused boards if that's not Fandom's actual policy. And them flip-flopping on that point has just created more confusion.

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ooger
06/02/23 9:51:05 AM
#81:


He was just learning to walk when I made my account.

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--Zero-
06/02/23 10:37:17 AM
#82:


Strand posted...
He lacks experience with GameFAQs, not with Fandom. He's been with Fandom since 2021, so he understands their policies more than SBAllen.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80356040

That's why I trust that his official statement reflects Fandom's actual policy. He stated that all politics boards were closed, not by virtue of being politics boards, but "specifically ones that violate our [Fandom's] terms of use by promoting abusive language."

As a Community Manager with Fandom, he's familiar with their policies and what terms 261 violated. But since he lacks experience with GameFAQs, he was mistaken about 261 being the only political discussion board here. And why other boards haven't been closed yet, despite being more toxic than 261.

That why neither SBAllen nor DToast have corrected or deleted the original announcement, even though it's been over two weeks. They can "clarify" things on CE, but they won't officially commit to banning politics-focused boards if that's not Fandom's actual policy.

But if abusive language was the real reason, they can't fully commit to it either. They would have to explain why 261 was singled out when there are way more toxic boards, which would be awkward now that we know about that subreddit's campaign targeting DToast. They keep flip-flopping, which just creates more confusion.

They do not owe you an explanation. Its not your website or your job to report to Fandom nor are you on their payroll. Shut the fuck up lol.


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ooger
06/02/23 10:39:30 AM
#83:


--Zero- posted...
They do not owe you an explanation. Its not your website or your job to report to Fandom nor are you on their payroll. Shut the fuck up lol.

which subreddit sewer dweller are you?

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--Zero-
06/02/23 10:41:55 AM
#84:


ooger posted...
which subreddit sewer dweller are you?

Ive been on Gamefaqs since 99 and have been apart of CE for years. Youre the outsider on this board not me lol.

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ooger
06/02/23 10:48:19 AM
#85:


Oh, is that why your account is from 2014?

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Strand
06/02/23 10:51:58 AM
#86:


--Zero- posted...
They do not owe you an explanation. Its not your website or your job to report to Fandom nor are you on their payroll. Shut the fuck up lol.
I'm not asking for a personal explanation. If political boards are prohibited, they can make an official announcement and update the site's rules to reflect that policy. For example, they still allow community boards focused on politics.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/3/AAfF3EAAEiDp.png

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IronWolf87
06/02/23 10:58:19 AM
#87:


hockeybub89 posted...
CE will be closed before the end of the year. Book it.

Fandom sucks.

Not only this but I think they're going to nuke all of the boards and just keep the FAQs and walkthroughs.
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ZMythos
06/02/23 11:01:30 AM
#88:


IronWolf87 posted...
Not only this but I think they're going to nuke all of the boards and just keep the FAQs and walkthroughs.
That would honestly suck hard since there are guides and stickies on many game boards which have information not available on any FAQ.

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Unknown5uspect
06/02/23 11:15:51 AM
#89:


Strand posted...
For example, they still allow community boards focused on politics.
The closing of realpolitik shows this to not be true though.

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Takuya_Lee
06/02/23 11:28:26 AM
#90:


--Zero- posted...
They do not owe you an explanation. Its not your website or your job to report to Fandom nor are you on their payroll. Shut the fuck up lol.

Good luck trying to keep people from leaving then. Not giving at least a clear explanation is a surefire way to lose people fast.

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Strand
06/02/23 11:30:53 AM
#91:


Unknown5uspect posted...
The closing of realpolitik shows this to not be true though.
That's not clear, given that they've repeatedly flip-flopped on whether it's abusive language or a political focus by itself that violate Fandom's terms:

Strand posted...
It's the way this is being handled, not the boards themselves. If they clearly explained the reasons why 261 and Realpolitik were closed, then neither board would warrant this much discussion.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80445446

In DToast's initial announcement being political, by itself, wasn't enough to violate Fandom's terms or justify a board's closure. It was "specifically ones that violate our [Fandom's] terms of use by promoting abusive language" and DToast emphasized Fandom's values of belonging, online trust, and safety.

SBAllen later clarified that the politics focus actually was why 261 was closed. But a day after that clarification, DToast went back to the original reason. He announced on GameSpot that both 261 and Gamespot's Political Gamers board were closed due to promotion of abusive language.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/closure-of-political-gamers-33603133/

And most recently today, DToast said that the politics focus actually is why 261, Gamespot's Political Gamers board, and now Realpolitik were closed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80462841?jumpto=140#140

They keep flip-flopping. So we don't know the real reason why these boards were closed, what standards are being used, and what this means for other boards. And neither SBAllen nor DToast have deleted or corrected the original announcement.


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Revelation34
06/02/23 11:37:35 AM
#92:


Oh Fandom did something stupid again? I'm shocked.

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Board_hunter567
06/02/23 11:37:40 AM
#93:


Strand posted...
I'm not asking for a personal explanation. If political boards are prohibited, they can make an official announcement and update the site's rules to reflect that policy. For example, they still allow community boards focused on politics.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/3/AAfF3EAAEiDp.png
They wanted to be coy about it, which is why they made up that BS "abusive language" excuse. Dylan has kindly removed any doubt what the actual policy is but they're going to keep playing around because that's how they do. I'm not here to kink shame. But they could have just said from the beginning "no politics, only video games" instead of whatever it is they're doing now.

Takuya_Lee posted...
Good luck trying to keep people from leaving then. Not giving at least a clear explanation is a surefire way to lose people fast.
I doubt that user or the moderators (too busy farting and shitposting and right click saving) or Fandom care. Nothing short of an organized revolt and sabotage would get the latter to even raise an eyebrow.

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Error1355
06/02/23 11:38:58 AM
#94:


Strand posted...
I'm not asking for a personal explanation. If political boards are prohibited, they can make an official announcement and update the site's rules to reflect that policy. For example, they still allow community boards focused on politics.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/3/AAfF3EAAEiDp.png

I don't know why you are focusing on trying to catch GameFAQs on a legalize 'gotcha' constantly. "This one page that clearly hasn't been updated yet still says it allows politics discussion thus they MUST honor my board request!"

No they don't. They made it clear via a topic on GameFAQs Announcements that political boards were being closed. Then users went to a previously dead community board about politics and tried to use it as a replacement political board, and it also got closed when brought to their attention.

It's probably better for you to accept this and move on, because I can't imagine they are going to 180 on this choice.

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Strand
06/02/23 11:44:07 AM
#95:


Error1355 posted...


I don't know why you are focusing on trying to catch GameFAQs on a legalize 'gotcha' constantly. "This one page that clearly hasn't been updated yet still says it allows politics discussion thus they MUST honor my board request!"
That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to understand what Fandom's policies are and what they mean for other boards. I'm just using 261, Realpolitik, and the community boards to understand what their actual policies are.

And it's not just that one page, but the repeated flip-flopping by DToast and SBAllen, which makes the policies unclear.

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Strand
06/02/23 11:45:45 AM
#96:


Error1355 posted...
No they don't. They made it clear via a topic on GameFAQs Announcements that political boards were being closed. Then users went to a previously dead community board about politics and tried to use it as a replacement political board, and it also got closed when brought to their attention.
The announcement said that all politics boards were closed because they promoted abusive language. Not by virtue of being political boards.

It's probably better for you to accept this and move on, because I can't imagine they are going to 180 on this choice.
I'm not trying to get them to change a policy. I'm trying to understand what the actual policy is because it could affect other boards.

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Doe
06/02/23 11:46:48 AM
#97:


DToast is literally being paid to kill my online community.

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Fluttershy
06/02/23 11:48:37 AM
#98:


i guess the one thing i'd really ask is how you'd say a board titled 'current events' isn't about politics. i feel like it's kinda in the name.

even then just re-name the stupid board to gamefaqs social

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Board_hunter567
06/02/23 12:01:27 PM
#99:


Strand posted...
The announcement said that all politics boards were closed because they promoted abusive language. Not by virtue of being political boards.
That was a lie. They don't want boards specifically about politics but for whatever reason don't want to explicitly say it. GFAQs staff, as clueless as the rest of us, correctly guessed as much to which Dylan meekly confirmed.

Nobody updated any official wording on any page because finding and updating text is too troublesome. Fandom may continue to keep changing the rules and GFAQs staff will continue to try their best to adhere to them when they've got a spare minute.

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Aysander
06/02/23 12:04:56 PM
#100:


Have they closed the Conservative-leaning community boards down yet? Any update on that?

Seems odd that Realpolitik and 261 were the only two closed...and Realpolitik was completely in line with the policy on Community Boards as currently stated.

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