Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 3 (Invasion for real this time?)

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Do you really think Israel isn't capable of making the attack look like it could have been done by hamas, the chaos and confusion is exactly what they want.

Hey. Shut the fuck up.

Israel is a human rights shithole that was well documented long before last week. Is it anti-Asian to hate the CCP or North Korea? Is it Islamophobic to hate the Sharia-ruled nations?

Netanyahu fucking hates the Palestinians and doesn't even treat them like people.

Screaming "the terrorists are evil!" doesn't somehow make no one else evil.

As expected, proof that Hamas is killing its own people and blew up that hospital themselves has been released and acknowledged across all world press outlets.

Can you link me one? Need a quick canned response to all the nonsense claiming otherwise.

Can you link me one? Need a quick canned response to all the nonsense claiming otherwise.

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

great retort bro.. *sarcastic clap*
mimicing a terrorist attack on a hospitable isnt really the same thing as claiming usa did 911,
its a fully plausibe situation unlike 911 being an inside job
why did israel issue warnings they would attack right before the attack?
why did israel tweet claiming the attack on the hospital which was quickly deleted when they realized they fucked up?

great retort bro.. *sarcastic clap*
mimicing a terrorist attack on a hospitable isnt really the same thing as claiming usa did 911,
its a fully plausibe situation unlike 911 being an inside job
why did israel issue warnings they would attack right before the attack?
why did israel tweet claiming the attack on the hospital which was quickly deleted when they realized they fucked up?

kinda sad to see the hamas defense force avert their eyes from facts and continue parroting the same meaningless talking points

almost like trump cultists, in a way

Like another poster just said.

Youre so far gone that even when most press outlets around the world acknowledge the evidence, youre still willing to die on some weird hill?

inda sad to see the hamas defense force avert their eyes from facts and continue parroting the same meaningless talking points

almost like trump cultists, in a way

Israel is acting exactly like Russia, I did not support Russia in there attempted genocide of Ukraine. I will not support Israel in theirs.

So you are choosing to ignore the October 7th attacks against Isreal? Got it, no need to take you seriously any longer.

How am I choosing to ignore that? Where do you get this thought in your head that I am ignoring that.
I literally said I do not defend Hamas, they are a terrorist group.

Biden says it came from Palestine. So you can either believe the President of the United States or you can believe a terrorist group.

This is a really bad post and you should be embarrassed.

You said they are the same as Russia which attacked and invaded a country unprovoked. Isreal was most certainly provoked on October 7th.

How am I choosing to ignore that? Where do you get this thought in your head that I am ignoring that.
I literally said I do not defend Hamas, they are a terrorist group.
Once again you are throwing around blind accusations trying to paint me as a terrorist sympathizer.

That does not give Israel any reason to commit genocide on a whole population.

What part do you disagree with?

The fact that many US presidents have said stuff that is not true.

• That statement came several hours after Biden's remarks upon arriving in Israel: "Based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you. But there's a lot of people out there, not sure," Biden said.
• Biden later clarified that he was speaking based on "the data I was shown by my Defense Department."

• U.K. Foreign Secretary James Cleverly also cast doubt on the idea that Israel was responsible. "Last night, too many jumped to conclusions around the tragic loss of life at Al Ahli hospital. Getting this wrong would put even more lives at risk. Wait for the facts, report them clearly and accurately. Cool heads must prevail," he wrote on X.

Hamas did it. Read below.

• Egypt to send humanitarian aid to Gaza. Israel allows, for now. https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/gaza-humanitarian-aid-entry-israel-netanyahu-biden
• Biden to forward $100M in aid to Gaza. They deserve more right now it's something. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/18/biden-humanitarian-aid-gaza-west-bank-00122212
• Iraqi drones attack small group of US soldiers in Iraq. Iran groups were affiliated with Iran and may be attacking over the Palestine war. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-says-thwarts-drone-attack-its-troops-iraq-2023-10-18
• [Unconfirmed] Israel airstrikes Palestinian mosque, killing 30 inside https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1714675859271926074
• Israel threatening once more that they will invade Gaza https://twitter.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1714694082021200256 and https://twitter.com/Apex_WW/status/1714709513641619608

Iraqi drones attack small group of US soldiers in Iraq. Iran groups were affiliated with Iran and may be attacking over the Palestine war. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-says-thwarts-drone-attack-its-troops-iraq-2023-10-18

[Unconfirmed] Israel airstrikes Palestinian mosque, killing 30 inside

Shhhh! He doesn't know arabs are also semitic, just play along.

Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all "Semitic people" (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. 'antisemitism') was first used in print in Germany in 1879 as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'), and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

The fact that many US presidents have said stuff that is not true, for starters.

Yeah, key word is semitic genius, adding anti to it doesn't change the meaning.

What kind of clownery is this.

Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all "Semitic people" (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. 'antisemitism') was first used in print in Germany in 1879 as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'), and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

Tom_Joad posted...

https://www.twitter.com/WHOoPt/status/1714713833359466702?s=20

https://www.twitter.com/WHOoPt/status/1714713833359466702?s=20

Is the 493 including the 471?

So just to be clear - you're going with these guys?

I'm pretty sure we can say, "The cop is a liar," without saying, "The serial killer is innocent."

Isreal was most certainly provoked on October 7th.

By a terrorist organization.

Not by 1 million+ Palestinians who are now displaced and homeless, still without electricity or humanitarian aid (at least the water was partially turned back on... to houses they're not allowed to go back to...) or a real means of escape, unless the Egypt crossing was miraculously opened wide in the last 12 hours.

Other than being an American, what justifies your idea of paving an entire civilian populace to punish a handful of terrorists, as a response to "provocation?"

The Israeli response has been disproportionate, barbaric, and a violation of international law.

The Israeli response has been disproportionate, barbaric, and a violation of international law.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. We're talking about a specific event and I think it is more likely that Joe Biden is being truthful than that a terrorist organization is being truthful. Some people appear to disagree.

What is the appropriate response for thousands of their citizens being killed and hundreds of hostages being taken that still have not been released?

What is the appropriate response for thousands of their citizens being killed and hundreds of hostages being taken that still have not been released? You think they should do nothing?

What is the appropriate response for thousands of their citizens being killed and hundreds of hostages being taken that still have not been released? You think they should do nothing?

Even CNN is reporting the Hospital attack was from a Palestinian rocket. If you still think Isreal is responsible you are just being antisemitic at this point tbh.

Veteran State Department official Josh Paul resigned from the agency on Tuesday over President Joe Bidens approach to Israel-Palestine, telling HuffPost he felt he had to do so because it was clear he could not push for a more humane policy within the U.S. government.

I have had my fair share of debates and discussions and efforts to shift policy on controversial arms sales, said Paul, who spent more than 11 years at States bureau of political-military affairs, which tackles weapons deals. He most recently served as the bureaus director of congressional and public affairs.

It was clear that theres no arguing with this one. Given that I couldnt shift anything, I resigned, he told HuffPost on Wednesday evening in his first media interview since he revealed his decision, which he also described in a LinkedIn post.

Multiple officials within the Biden administration who want the U.S. to encourage Israeli restraint as the country runs a military operation in Gaza have told HuffPost they are experiencing a chilling effect.