Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 3 (Invasion for real this time?)

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MarcyWarcy
10/18/23 7:55:07 PM
#251:


genocide joe

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10/18/23 8:02:12 PM
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ZechtAurion
10/18/23 8:05:48 PM
#252:


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17ayhn2/now_israel_started_bombing_around_alquds_hospital/

Monsters, truly.
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McSame_as_Bush
10/18/23 8:12:23 PM
#253:


DnDer posted...
You suggested that if we don't believe Israel, we must assume that Palestine is who we're believing by default.

But, frankly, given the IDF claiming credit for the hospital, deleting it, Biden saying he saw pictures of decapitated babies, then his state dept saying no... when Biden says his state department agrees with Israel's new version of events, it's kind of sus.

(Above and beyond all the many domestic reasons and repercussions that the optics of saying Israel rocketed a hospital would cause.)

There's a big pile of precedent for giving the side eye and very little benefit of the doubt to the US toeing Israel's line on entirely too much.

I'm going to remain deeply skeptical until I start seeing some credentialed and respected news outlets being able to report on actual facts in evidence about the hospital.

The guy who deleted the tweet has explained himself in a new one. You can go read it if you care. Obviously it was a mistake and seemed sus at the time, but that was before real evidence emerged (intercepted calls, satellite imagery, geolocations, etc). Not sure how Biden going off the cuff over something completely different and saying something dumb is relevant, but if you've followed his presidency at all, you would know this isn't the first time.

The intelligence community put out a relatively restrained statement this morning but as they've examined their own intel seperate from what Israel provided, they've been more unequivocal about what happened.

There's a reason you keep citing Twitter instead of information about the incident itself and that's because you don't have anything other than Twitter. If you're going to continue to remain "deeply skeptical" despite the absense of any evidence to support Hamas's claims, it's because of personal feelings about Gaza, not because there's a legitimate reason to do so. Which is just dumb. There are any number of reasons to criticize Israel, but you're undercutting them all by treating this as if it's one of them.

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Ferarri619
10/18/23 8:59:18 PM
#254:


I want to know how many of the Hamas terrorists who participated in the initial attack on Israel have been killed, or at least general percentage.

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VFalcone
10/18/23 9:03:08 PM
#255:


ZechtAurion posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17ayhn2/now_israel_started_bombing_around_alquds_hospital/

Monsters, truly.
Is this a different incident or the same incident from yesterday but from a different angle?

If it's the former, holy shit

EDIT: IT'S REAL
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/israel-palestine-hospital-gaza-b2432137.html
Bombardments hit area surrounding Gazas Al-Quds hospital
Staff at a Gaza hospital ran for shelter when "huge bombardments" of rocket fire struck nearby on Wednesday 18 October. Footage obtained from the Palestine Red Crescent shows a nearby building to Al-Quds hospital being struck.

According to the Red Crescent, a building only 100 metres from the hospital located in Gaza City. The strike occurred one day after another hospital was hit by a projectile, an incident in which "hundreds" of people were killed according to the Gaza health ministry.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/bombardments- hit-near-gazas-al-202126998.html

https://twitter.com/zoo_bear/status/1714768707640316126

Unbelievable. Look at that firepower, man
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Intro2Logic
10/18/23 9:18:53 PM
#256:


Hundreds arrested at Jewish-led protest for peace at capitol
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/jewish-led-demonstrations-for-gaza-cease-fire-see-hundreds-arrested-at-capitol/ar-AA1itt30

The ADL calls them anti-semitic
https://bsky.app/profile/eladn.bsky.social/post/3kc2uvu7cqj2g


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Zikten
10/18/23 9:32:12 PM
#257:


ADL doesn't seem to know Arabs are also Semetic. Bombing Gaza is anti Semitic then
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MarcyWarcy
10/18/23 10:20:42 PM
#259:


adl is useless

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ScazarMeltex
10/18/23 11:00:37 PM
#260:


Intro2Logic posted...
Hundreds arrested at Jewish-led protest for peace at capitol
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/jewish-led-demonstrations-for-gaza-cease-fire-see-hundreds-arrested-at-capitol/ar-AA1itt30

The ADL calls them anti-semitic
https://bsky.app/profile/eladn.bsky.social/post/3kc2uvu7cqj2g
The ADL believes that any criticism of the State of Israel is anti-semitic.

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Zikten
10/18/23 11:10:31 PM
#261:


ScazarMeltex posted...
The ADL believes that any criticism of the State of Israel is anti-semitic.
So Israel can do anything and we aren't allowed to call them out? I wonder if they would get away with dropping a nuke
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Strider102
10/18/23 11:12:07 PM
#262:


Zikten posted...
So Israel can do anything and we aren't allowed to call them out? I wonder if they would get away with dropping a nuke

Probably

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andel
10/19/23 12:05:38 AM
#263:


the hospital bombing has been proven to be a palestinian terrorist group. this is universally acknowledged now.

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VFalcone
10/19/23 1:27:19 AM
#264:


andel posted...
the hospital bombing has been proven to be a palestinian terrorist group. this is universally acknowledged now.
If you're talking about the hospital bombing that was just posted here, that's actually a new bombing dangerously close to a hospital and thousands of people. Someone definitely died there
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Karovorak
10/19/23 2:01:01 AM
#265:


Zikten posted...
ADL doesn't seem to know Arabs are also Semetic. Bombing Gaza is anti Semitic then

Anti-semitic has actually nothing to do with semits.

It were german pre-nazis who came up with the term on the own to describe themselves. It's explicitily about jews.

It's a term they used to celebrate. They even founded the "League of Antisemites" just to get together to hate jews.

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VFalcone
10/19/23 4:28:10 AM
#266:


  • 61 Palestinians killed by Israeli settlers during as conflicts spill into the West Bank https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/middleeast/west-bank-settler-attacks-israel-cmd-intl
  • [Unconfirmed] Palestinian Islamic Jihad has struck 21 IDF military positions. Frequency suddenly increased by 470% https://twitter.com/criticalthreats/status/1714782795061490031
  • [Unconfirmed] Hezbollah has also struck Israel as well 20 times on Wednesday, doubling frequency since the hospital incident on Tuesday. https://twitter.com/criticalthreats/status/1714782795061490031
  • Comedian Bassem Youssef speaks out about the Israel/Palestine War https://streamable.com/emmz64
  • Israel Intel Special Forces guy Frederic Landau goes off on Indian host because she's wearing a green and red saree that belonged to her grandmother https://streamable.com/mbjghp
  • IDF reports 306 soldiers dead https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hytt38rw6
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ZechtAurion
10/19/23 5:43:35 AM
#267:


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17b5pr9/an_arab_knesset_member_gets_interrupted_when_she/

How can a human being actually be so cruel.
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Dark_Arbron
10/19/23 5:45:39 AM
#268:


ZechtAurion posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17b5pr9/an_arab_knesset_member_gets_interrupted_when_she/

How can a human being actually be so cruel.

Cruelty is human behavior. I remind people of that every time someone says "they're not human, they're a monster."

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ZechtAurion
10/19/23 5:53:55 AM
#269:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Cruelty is human behavior. I remind people of that every time someone says "they're not human, they're a monster."
It is not, it only poisons your natural disposition when one gives in too much.
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CobraGT
10/19/23 6:13:17 AM
#270:


Netanyahu has been Prime Minister for 16 years. Analysts say his party has passed laws to limit their supreme court and to make it impossible to unseat him.

The Israelis who have been protesting the above are being forced to decide between dropping their protest or fighting the Prime Minister while he is fighting a war.

https://apnews.com/article/netanyahu-israel-corruption-court-overhaul-3e23c2a1e16c7b589239fe134be5050f

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ZaruenKosai
10/19/23 6:21:16 AM
#271:


CobraGT posted...
Netanyahu has been Prime Minister for 16 years. Analysts say his party has passed laws to limit their supreme court and to make it impossible to unseat him.

The Israelis who have been protesting the above are being forced to decide between dropping their protest or fighting the Prime Minister while he is fighting a war.

https://apnews.com/article/netanyahu-israel-corruption-court-overhaul-3e23c2a1e16c7b589239fe134be5050f
just more parallels with russia .. thanks for posting!

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DarthWendy
10/19/23 10:33:09 AM
#272:


The hospital bombing has been proven to be perpetrated by Islamic Jihad, a palestinian terrorist group. This is universally acknowledged now by all serious media outlets in the world.

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punkfanalways
10/19/23 10:42:17 AM
#273:


Weird. When I google it most serious media outlets are still saying it's under investigation. Even Biden went as far to caveat his response with "from the info I've been given". I think if anything has become clear over the hospital attacks and the babies thing it's not to make assumptions until we have all the facts.

Please share a link to one of these serious media outlets and the article you are referring to in your post.
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ZaruenKosai
10/19/23 10:47:08 AM
#274:


DarthWendy posted...
The hospital bombing has been proven to be perpetrated by Islamic Jihad, a palestinian terrorist group. This is universally acknowledged now by all serious media outlets in the world.

Being innocent of one war crime does not free them of guilt from the rest.

The World Health Organization has documented 48 attacks on health care in the Gaza Strip since October 7, when Israel began bombarding the region in response to a terrorist attack by Hamas.

At least 24 hospitals were damaged during the bombings, and three facilities in northern Gaza had to be evacuated, per the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

They have and will continue to bomb hospitals and health care facilities/emergency shelters.


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VFalcone
10/19/23 10:54:37 AM
#275:


DarthWendy posted...
The hospital bombing has been proven to be perpetrated by Islamic Jihad, a palestinian terrorist group. This is universally acknowledged now by all serious media outlets in the world.
There is already a topic for this
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Foppe
10/19/23 10:59:34 AM
#276:


Remember when it was universally acknowledged by all serious media outlets in the world that Hamas had beheaded 40 children?

Im not saying that Israel did it, the evidence presented indicates that a third party palestinian terrorist group did it by mistake, just saying that it doesnt automatically turns true just because serious media reports what they are told.


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McSame_as_Bush
10/19/23 11:45:58 AM
#277:


VFalcone posted...
There is already a topic for this

This one?

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Foppe
10/19/23 11:57:24 AM
#278:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
This one?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80597253


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McSame_as_Bush
10/19/23 12:11:55 PM
#279:


So there's two topics.

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VFalcone
10/19/23 12:19:45 PM
#280:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
So there's two topics.
Nope. This is the Israel/Palestine live update thread. Not the "Argue about who did what" or "argue about who's worse" thread. Sure everyone is free to react as news happens, but prolonged arguing can go to other threads. The news is still flowing and I don't want it buried.
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McSame_as_Bush
10/19/23 12:33:12 PM
#281:


VFalcone posted...
Nope. This is the Israel/Palestine live update thread. Not the "Argue about who did what" or "argue about who's worse" thread. Sure everyone is free to react as news happens, but prolonged arguing can go to other threads. The news is still flowing and I don't want it buried.

The aftermath throughout the middle east and the quarreling over responsibility is certainly a live event.

Plus, you're not king.

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Foppe
10/19/23 12:37:30 PM
#282:


It is his topic and he will close it if we go too deep into it, especially when it exist a whole topic about just that topic.

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Ferarri619
10/19/23 12:45:53 PM
#283:


Yeah I'm following this thread to get news updates not for the annoying debating

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name_unknown
10/19/23 12:47:48 PM
#284:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
The aftermath throughout the middle east and the quarreling over responsibility is certainly a live event.

Plus, you're not king.
There are other ODT for the conflict and the hospital is better off having its own thread
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ZechtAurion
10/19/23 1:33:01 PM
#285:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
The aftermath throughout the middle east and the quarreling over responsibility is certainly a live event.

Plus, you're not king.
He is actually.

Create your own topic if you want to shill for Israel that bad.
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name_unknown
10/19/23 1:55:04 PM
#286:


Israeli defense minister says troops near Gaza will "soon see it from the inside"
From CNNs Tamar Michaelis and Daniel Oz in Jerusalem
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told troops gathered not far from the Gaza Strip on Thursday that they will "soon see" the enclave "from the inside," according to a press release from his office.
"You see Gaza now from a distance, you will soon see it from inside. The command will come," he said, according to the release.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, on a separate visit to an area bordering the Gaza Strip on Thursday, told troops stationed there:"The entire nation of Israel stands behind you and we will give the hard blow to our enemies so that we can achieve victory. For victory! Ready?"
Also Thursday, the commanding officer of Israel Defense Forces Southern Command, Maj. Gen. Yaron Finkelman, told troops at another section of the border: "This maneuvering will shift the war to the enemys side and we will win on their ground. This maneuvering will be long, difficult, long, intense, but we have the best commanders and fighters the IDF has to offer."
Earlier this week: Israel's ambassador to the United Nations said Israel "has no interest" in occupying Gaza but will do "whatever is needed" to eliminate Hamas.
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ironman2009
10/19/23 1:56:30 PM
#287:


Yeah I'm actually kinda surprised the IDF hasn't moved in yet.

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name_unknown
10/19/23 2:03:24 PM
#288:


ironman2009 posted...
Yeah I'm actually kinda surprised the IDF hasn't moved in yet.
IDF looks to want to go full force. Over 300,000 reserves have been called since 10/10. Arming them all is taking time.
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punkfanalways
10/19/23 2:05:48 PM
#289:


I dont think theyll go in.
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VFalcone
10/19/23 2:25:03 PM
#290:


It's that time...

Death Tolls:
  • 3,785 Palestinians dead, including 1,524 children, 1,000 women, and 1,261 men. 12,493 injured (CBS & NBC) https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/israel-hamas-war-palestinians-biden-speech-after-gaza-hospital-blast/ and https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna121166
  • 1,400 Israelis dead, 3,500 injured (sources reporting the same numbers. No changes since yesterday)
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name_unknown
10/19/23 3:46:28 PM
#291:


Egypt calls for nationwide protests in support of Palestine
From CNN's Sarah El Sirgany in southern Lebanon and Magdy Samaan in Cairo
Egypts state-aligned political parties and institutions have called for nationwide protests in Egypt on Friday in support of Palestinians and President Abdel-Fattah el-Sisis position not to allow the displacement of the Gaza population to Egypt.
If it comes down to asking Egyptians to go out on the streets to express their rejection of this idea, you will see millions of Egyptians supporting the Egyptian position, Sisi said in a press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Wednesday.
An alliance of state-backed political parties have voiced their support for Sisis statements and said they acquired permits for demonstrations in designated locations across Egypt, according to Egypts state-run and local media.
These would be the first government-approved mass protests in Egypt since Sisi assumed power. Strict anti-protest laws and brutal security crackdown on dissent have largely prevented mass protests for the past decade.
Protests against Israeli strikes on Gaza swept through several Egyptian universities on Wednesday. Several professional unions also organized smaller demonstrations, with some chanting in support of Sisis position.
Some context: Egypt, which already hosts millions of migrants, is uneasy about the prospect of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees crossing into its territory. More than 2 million Palestinians live in Gaza.
Sisi last week said his country is trying to help within limits.
Of course, we sympathize. But be careful, while we sympathize, we must always be using our minds in order to reach peace and safety in a manner that doesnt cost us much, he said.
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10/19/23 6:01:50 PM
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McSame_as_Bush
10/19/23 7:54:34 PM
#292:


US assesses 100-300 killed by Islamic Jihad at the hospital. European intelligence says less than 50.

https://www.barrons.com/news/us-intelligence-estimates-100-300-killed-in-gaza-hospital-strike-ed29fb1b

Hamas really played this perfectly. Blame Israel, exaggerate the death total, and scuttle the planned Biden meeting.

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wajs58
10/19/23 7:57:30 PM
#293:


US warship shootdown missiles and drones from Yemen.

https://youtu.be/bbEQrYNx09U?si=_GsAvMTZ5HGdHtSn

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Ferarri619
10/19/23 8:08:59 PM
#294:


Wtf is Yemen doing getting involved

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streamofthesky
10/19/23 8:26:26 PM
#295:


Ferarri619 posted...
Wtf is Yemen doing getting involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeKeYvkY5GQ

Iran-backed terrorists.
They're all over the Middle East.
Iran is emboldened and thinks they can do whatever the fuck they want w/o repercussions.
Hopefully Biden proves them wrong.
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VFalcone
10/19/23 8:31:42 PM
#296:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
US assesses 100-300 killed by Islamic Jihad at the hospital. European intelligence says less than 50.

https://www.barrons.com/news/us-intelligence-estimates-100-300-killed-in-gaza-hospital-strike-ed29fb1b

Hamas really played this perfectly. Blame Israel, exaggerate the death total, and scuttle the planned Biden meeting.
Most of the sources go by now say 400. WHO also says 471... It's probably around 400
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ZaruenKosai
10/19/23 8:32:51 PM
#297:


streamofthesky posted...
Hopefully Bi,den proves them wrong.
if there is one thing you can say about the United States, for sure, is that USA has a strong as fuck military, it is most definitely not a paper tiger like Russia.

undefined posted...
Wtf is Yemen doing getting involved
Yemen , it is not nor has it been a safe place to visit since for as long as I can remember, since the 90s.
It is currently in the middle of an ongoing civil war. (since 2014)
Not the most democratic or peace seeking.


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ScazarMeltex
10/19/23 8:55:54 PM
#299:


Ferarri619 posted...
Wtf is Yemen doing getting involved
It's not necessarily the Yemenis, I'd be willing to bet it's not. Just terrorist groups operating from within their borders.

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ClayGuida
10/19/23 8:56:56 PM
#300:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/7/AAXc3pAAE895.jpg

Maybe Americans are over Israel.

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