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From: TheRock1525 | #082
Do you think I'm being hyperbolic though, Rock? I'm curious as to what your rebuttal to my posts would be. Do you think my 'rework' of Mustadio's lines doesn't feel more natural? How about my comments about Miluda?

LtM says the WotL is one of the worst things ever done, "mind-numbling atrocious", and "in-f***ing tolerable."

Ulti says "Anyone who prefers the PSP translation of FFT is someone I know I never need to take seriously on any subject."

You've never said anything to that effect. You're having an actual discussion about this and making note that this is more person preference than a statement of fact.

So no, you're not being hyperbolic.

From: OmarsComin | #081
is it seriously true that WotL is a made up translation? If so, that's ridiculous and stupid and AAAAAAAAAARGH

yup. IIRC when the PSP re-release was getting brought over, Square was like "let's strengthen the ties with FF12 and make the script more like 12's script." so the retranslation and all the flowery stuff was invented in the translation process.

there's a FAQ someone wrote here a few years back before the PSP rerelease where he retranslated the actual work. it made a lot more sense than either of the translations we got.

As far as I know there is no Japanese version of the script that resemble what we got with WotL.

From: TheRock1525 | #078
To be fair, Ramza is very ignorant to what the nobles have done to the commoners.

It's like a guy wearing a Nazi SS outfit coming up to a Jew and telling him to surrender. Sure, he can mean well and he might be a good human being, but he's also wearing a Nazi uniform. Just like Ramza wears the Beoulve name.

From: TheRock1525 | #071
A topic with LtM and Ulti turning into hyperbole.

Shock.

From: OmarsComin | #069
an FFT retranslation topic I'm not a part of? let me get in on this

the thing about why FFT PSP is bad is because it's made up. that's not how the game was written. yeah FFT vanilla is poorly translated but the meaning is the same. FFT PSP was just made up stuff that made the game harder to read. FFT PSP retranslation is an invented work by the translator that in barely conveys what the original text was saying.

another positive thing about the old translation is that it's hilarious. some of the mistranslations are so awful or so inappropriate, they make me smile every time.

"I'm saving Agrias! Geronimo!!"

From: OmarsComin | #069
an FFT retranslation topic I'm not a part of? let me get in on this

the thing about why FFT PSP is bad is because it's made up. that's not how the game was written. yeah FFT vanilla is poorly translated but the meaning is the same. FFT PSP was just made up stuff that made the game harder to read. FFT PSP retranslation is an invented work by the translator that in barely conveys what the original text was saying.

another positive thing about the old translation is that it's hilarious. some of the mistranslations are so awful or so inappropriate, they make me smile every time.

"I'm saving Agrias! Geronimo!!"

From: ZFS | #062
add '-ly' to like

is that it does this make the planet livable again

From: pjbasis | #060
Reading these excerpts really makes me want to play this game.

From: LeonhartFour | #054
Miluda is every bit as close-minded as Algus, just in the other direction. Granted, I don't blame her for her attitude toward the nobility, but she essentially tells Ramza that she doesn't care if he's technically a good person. He's a noble, and she hates him because he's a noble.

From: Jeff Zero | #048
ZFS posted...
Jeff Zero posted...
Smith is good. He just got carried away.

He didn't work on FFT. He handled FFXII.

I am aware he had nothing to do with the original fft.

From: tereziWright | #047
I was unable to tolerate getting far enough into WotL to get to Mustadio, does he have the same overly verbose unnecessary flowery dialogue? That's one character that I don't think anyone could possibly defend talking like that.

From: ZFS | #041
Overusing exclamation points is nearly as bad as ellipses in the middle of sentences. At some point you'll want to value readability and writing over 'is this super simple and silly.' I mean, I can understand not liking how dramatic the writing is in FFT PSP, but hopefully you have a better standard than FFT PS1.

From: LeonhartFour | #042
Also you're supposed to be glad Algus is gone

He's the scum of the earth

From: tereziWright | #021
A good example. The former (original) is pretty much perfect. The latter (WotL) is in-f***ing-tolerable, and highlights why War of the Lions retranslation is so mind numbingly atrocious, even if more accurate, that it renders one of my favorite games of all time unplayable to me.

From: TheRock1525 | #018
Actually, looking at that I'd say the latter is a lot better than the former.

From: Sceptilesolar | #442
'lady saya, valerian and his friends are here to see you'

'sorry saya we accidentally unleashed a world-destroying evil'

'okay but what did you unleash'

'a world-destroying evil'

'what'

repeat ad-nauseum

From: TheRock1525 | #009
Man, who hates on the PSP FFT translation?

I understand the charm of the original, but everything made a lot more sense when I was playing the PSP version.

From: Sceptilesolar | #436
val/amy hatefic

From: GenesisTwilight | #029
For the sake of investing way too much time into this, I'm gonna list the arguments they had that I agree with:

Angry Birds: It's no longer a game. It's a ****ing marketing monstrosity.
Lego series: Why make Lego ____ when you can just make ____?
Kingdom Hearts: Spinoffs, remakes of spinoffs (seriously, wat?), but no KH3 yet?
Madden: NFL football is apparently an EA monopoly, meaning they have zero competition in the genre.
Final Fantasy: 95% of the people on this board agree that the series has been going downhill for the last decade.
Halo: Halo 3 was supposed to end the trilogy according to the developers. Then Microsoft sold the IP to someone else just so they could cash in on it.

From: Anagram | #428
>_>

>_____________________>

From: SovietOmega | #425
Next time on Twilightmon.

Team Learrette is back and are looking to steal the party's Forget using the most dastardly means yet. A net. Can the party unleash a devastating 6 player standard actions at once combo to save the day? Meanwhile, Lloyd will try to cheer everyone up over Miss R and Reen being knocked out and recovering by putting on an acrobatics show. Nurse Saya still does not believe the party say a legendary world eater though.

From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #347
Why are you guys all assuming this is a dream bubble?
I may have missed something, but as far as I can tell there's no reason to think this isn't just a birthday flashback.

Pretty sure whenever this has happened before, it has turned out to be a dreambubble halfway through the conversation.

That and we literally see Jake going into the dreambubble. The black icon.

according the flash, both Dirk and Roxy will make it into the medium alive.

Sure. Does AR not count as Dirk to you?

From: Sceptilesolar | #405
Well, he's Avenger with an Assassin MC, but yeah. I had to accept that Executioner wasn't really adding anything except that it was thematically the right pick.

From: Sceptilesolar | #401
I can't even imagine what a meeting between the current party and the party members when they first joined up would be like.

Now this has to happen, you know.

From: Tirofog | #399
Something that came to mind earlier, by the way: I know Atha was some kind of Evil alignment when she first joined the group, is that still the case?

Also, broke down and got Haggle. One free Diplomacy reroll per encounter, aww yeah. >_>

From: SovietOmega | #396
Forget is now as strong as the party was when the campaign started.

It is kinda scary how much things have changed ._.

From: Anagram | #387
Also she has a cult of girls working for her, some of whom are paragon.

From: Anagram | #388
I enjoyed the session tonight, guys, even if you stubbornly refused to actually enter combat with anything.

From: Wanglicious | #008
cousins don't really have THAT much higher of a chance of deformaties. depending how close they are it can be from 4% more to the same as any other random coupling.

From: Sceptilesolar | #384
I dunno about that.

But at 16, maybe even 15...

From: Accel_R8 | #382
Well obviously we can't call Vivi a speedbump to her face yet since she's like 9 levels ahead but she IS small time in the grand scheme of things.

From: Anagram | #379
SovietOmega posted...
Good to know things are better without me :/

Dude, come on. You just happened to show up just before things got good. Bob in particular seems to be well-liked.

From: Sceptilesolar | #366
Eren seems like she should qualify as 'alive'. She's not irrevocably dead, anyway.