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KanzarisKelshen
04/19/12 5:18:00 AM
#359 |
There's nothing wrong with Pete the Cop, and I wouldn't call him boring, but the point I'm making is that you have to acknowledge the narrative role of a character before trying to make him fit something he isn't. You couldn't make a good, long-lasting, popular series out of the adventures of Weasel, Deadpool's pal, in spite of him being a good character, because he doesn't have the weight to carry a series alone (I'm using weight in a very loosely defined, narrative sense, so if this doesn't make sense my apologies). The party is a group of world-shakers - they're the protagonists of the story, and such need to have a sense of adventure and wanderlust that the average person lacks completely. The alternative is something like what happened when we first met Lloyd back at Asabew's place (i. e., nothing). or getting relegated to the spot of secondary character who's in it basically to make everybody else look more interesting by comparison. Which is fine if that's your goal, but it's not a decision to be made lightly, because it means you are forfeiting a portion of narrative control and the ability to influence the plot direction, which is very hard to renegotiate into a fair share. You can make a character into Pete the Cop, but you have to add facets to him or he's gonna get shoved aside when Superman and Batman come to the fore, because they are simply more interesting characters than he is.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 11:05:00 PM
#356 |
From: Accel_R8 | #354
I have a bad habit of never wanting to interject most of the time because I don't want to singled out for 'spotlighting'. Honestly I think I've done a lot of it recently and I feel bad for it.
But since circumstances literally reached the level of 'Yeah, ok the universe is blowing up and Valerian's being his radical self, maybe I should step in here', it seemed appropriate.
Honestly I like the Vanessa/Kirie dynamic, or otherwise just characters interacting on the side more than being the "big damn hero". I'd rather like the universe not blowing up out-of-character wise because the obvious.. ending the campaign deal, and because something on that scale puts a hamper on roleplaying on an individual level when we have bigger things to attend to. I'd never call it spotlighting. It's not just natural, but good to want spotlighting - the characters' more heroic, larger-than-life natures can't come shining through unless they take center stage. I think I read it somewhere once, but it's very true: scenes where people do small-talk are good for exploring new facets of a character, or giving old ones a new spin. Scenes where people act or proclaim their goals and dreams are good for *affirming* what a character is, and making him or her worth paying attention to. Without one, a character is flat. Without the other, a character is boring. They should both be featured in a balanced measure.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 11:03:00 PM
#355 |
Oh yeah, and one thing I forgot before: I actually agree that I've toned down the 'talk to the villain' thing over time, which I regret and aim to correct as Valerian mellows out somewhat. Part of the issue, though, is that the foes we've been fighting are irredeemable. By this I don't mean that they're pure evil, but that they're either not *worth* redeeming, or not redeemable in a feasibly short amount of time. To put this in perspective: how am I supposed to redeem a mobster that's condemned hundreds of girls to fading into nonexistence to save his own sorry ass and who feels no shame about it? How about the mobster who is admittedly only in it for the money, doesn't care about other people, and is only tolerated because he's a minor enough evil to ignore, but feels absolutely no shame or remorse about his actions? To put this in perspective, I think Vivi IS redeemable, but not until we meet her face to face again and can talk it out, because I can't deploy the hook I want to deploy right now. Our foes have escalated into menaces we can't afford to redeem, and can only just barely talk to. I'll see if I can bring the talky groove back, but I'm not sure I can make it work without foes that are deserving of some immediate sympathy.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:57:00 PM
#353 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #352
I KNOW those things, but I'm saying that I feel as if presenting them is discouraged, because it wouldn't add anything to the scene. I beg to differ. Unless you think the discussions between Vanessa and Valerian add absolutely nothing, it's worth it to intervene. If you do...yeah. Can't do anything about that. :-/
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:48:00 PM
#351 |
The third option is, effectively, to develop an agenda, modus operandi, and goals, Scep. Vanessa has that because she's the everyman, whose goal is to finish things as fast as possible, as painlessly as possible, and with the most satisfying end possible for her and the people she cares for. Valerian has that because he's the crusader, who fights monsters wherever he goes, at any price to himself, and with no regard for his own safety (and occasionally, that of others). Brona needs to have that. Before we play tomorrow, sit down, hammer out his responses to some likely scenarios, and figure out his goals. If you want something theatrical that satisfies you, you can't leave Brona as an unstated 'hangs around with the party because he has nothing else' character. At the very, very least, you need to bring that pathos to bear. At the most, you probably need to emphasize his genial, devil-may-care personality and contrast it with that of Valerian and Vanessa. In short, you need to dare to take the spotlight, at any cost, because otherwise you never will.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:32:00 PM
#349 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #347
Also to be fair the only one that ever REAAAAALLY tries to talk the villain down is Valerian.
That's funny, because I liked that part of things and I don't think it's true anymore.
Care to elaborate on this? I think I know what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure.
Mostly, because they're so determined and loud about their opinions that 'no maybe we should think about this' never works. I don't think this is at all true for Vanessa, but regardless, wanna know why this happens? Because the other characters do not believe in what they're doing. They're not willing to stand by their opinions and back them up when push comes to shove - if you want to see this change, next time Valerian is about to do something Brona disapproves of, have him speak up, say 'no', defend his position, and then if Valerian tries to change Brona's mind, say 'make me'. Give him more backbone, essentially. Otherwise, you can't complain that he pulls the party by the nose because someone has to move the plot. If it's not me, it's gonna be someone else.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:29:00 PM
#348 |
1) What do you mean 'they were already there'? You mean ten years ago? The answer's yes, but with ten more years there's a lot you can do to stop them. It took us something like four or five months to foil Rael. Ten years is enough time to annihilate the Cthulhus.
2) No, by more sane I mean 'doesn't want to damn the world for revenge'. Teracor isn't very sane, but counts as more sane than Vivi. Kulkulat was a complete ass, but also counts as more sane than Vivi and if you asked him his opinion, he'd probably side against Vivi in an instant, as an example.
3) Fine. Pardon the confusion then.
4) Self-doubt and hesitance that he's doing the right thing is indeed something I was gunning for, yes. Would you prefer if he was even more zealotous than he is now?
5) What goalpost changing? I'm using the same definition I started off with. We went on a tangent to straighten things out, and are now back at the previous point. Don't see how 'I'm standing by what I said before' is goalpost changing.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:16:00 PM
#344 |
From: Accel_R8 | #343
Also to be fair the only one that ever REAAAAALLY tries to talk the villain down is Valerian.
That's like his schtick now. He's like full paladin mode without being a paladin. Hahaha, that's pretty much what Valerian does, yeah. He's a paladin without a shining armor, pretty much. You summed his character up perfectly there. :P
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:15:00 PM
#343 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #341
... Maybe I just feel like I'm being stripped of moral agency. When Val and Vance start talking, it's always to lay down the Voice of Morality and then there's just nothing worth discussing. Care to elaborate on this? I think I know what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 10:15:00 PM
#342 |
Scep, newsflash: Less than a month after visiting Yog-Sothoth's temple, him and his far realm buddies would have struck out. Don't you remember what he told Kirie? It isn't about Rael, it's about monstrosities from the beyond entering the Twilight. Rael plays no part here. As for point 4, conceded that she doesn't have to be a sociopath, but if you look at my previous post, I only went with that classification because that is what you used. My original wording was 'mental illness and a lack of caring for her fellow men'. Which is still true. Then this... From: Sceptilesolar | #340
Also, there is a middle ground between 'Vivi is right' and 'Vivi is irredeemably evil!', you know. But nope, no ambiguities allowed. She is basically almost irredeemably evil. She is also almost right, if her reasons weren't so phony, except for the selfish ones. I don't know where you're getting the 'irredeemably evil' part and the desire for no moral ambiguities, but that isn't what we want, it's just that she just plain isn't right, which trumps the fact that she occasionally makes a couple valid points in the middle of her other drivel. The takeaway is that the party has flaws, but that what Vivi says can be disregarded because she's totally crazy. Someone who is more sane can make those points and be listened to. And for last... From: Sceptilesolar | #339
And this discussion was pretty bad too.
You know what bugs me about this? When the party looks desperate for positive reinforcement. That keeps happening and it really does irritate me. Maybe you should throw in some villain we can verbally smack down, because until that happens the party is going to keep on trying it and looking like massive tools. First thing is that you're changing your argument. You said, and I quote: 'You say that, but the way that the party invariably tries to head off any reasonable discussion of the issue suggests otherwise.' I provided a counterexample. You can't shift your position like that - it doesn't work that way. This matter *should* be dropped, as it is resolved (but won't, sadly). Anyway, besides that...it's not about positive reinforcement, considering that this is a consistent line across conversations with multiple NPCs. Remember that Valerian claimed to Rael that he was no hero and instead an executioner, because he sees himself as being guilty of what he is being charged with. He didn't change tack for Teracor by any means, but instead simply maintained his previous position. It is much les about positive reinforcement than it is about reaching an understanding with an opposite. I resent the notion of not being constant in my portrayal of Valerian's thought processes, as it implies that I am playing him poorly and out of character. Did you meant to say that? If not, I'd appreciate it if you recanted what you said here.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:54:00 PM
#338 |
From: Accel_R8 | #336
For the record Vivi's not a bad character. She's just one that seems to come across as if the author's trying to make her sympathetic, or is hinting that maybe she's right.
The facts point to the opposite, she was given cool things by a tyrant and not only turned a blind eye to his evil but relished in it. She was always evil, just not destroy the universe evil.
Until she became destroy the universe evil, that is. Now, any chance of her getting any sympathy is gone, she wants to forsake the universe for revenge, that's beyond greed or wrath, it's just objective, wanton evil. Rael is nothing but bad for the universe. He has called himself "villain" and has no shame for any of the things he's done. She is an enabler for this and has breached the point of no return as far as people should care. She is teh bad guyz now.
It doesn't matter if she has "good" reason for it, when you make your face/heel turn you're gonna get booed. If the party can be called a "force of nature" then Vivi can be considered a force that needs to be stopped. The moral high ground nonsense is her quirk, and that's fine. But in absolutely no regard does she deserve sympathy from anyone. To be fair, we have called ourselves villains, too. I don't believe we are, except for Amy. The party ranges from straight up heroes to byronic heroes to antiheroes, but not villains.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:52:00 PM
#337 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #334
The thing is that moral superiority isn't in question scep, because it doesn't exist. It's rather the opposite, actually - the whole point is Vivi attempting to claim the moral high-ground, and how she can't. Ask any member of the party and none (with the possible exception of Amy) will try to defend what they did as not being heinous. It's just that Vivi isn't any better, and is in fact worse because she lashes out at the world, instead of doing something with the entirely new universe that was created.
You say that, but the way that the party invariably tries to head off any reasonable discussion of the issue suggests otherwise.
Considering we actually have her beat on that, too (we lost 10 very, very important years, because instead of having a decade to find a way to save the world from the Cthulhus, we had less than a month; Vivi's lost years could have been spent in a less painful fashion, but not a more productive one), not a chance. Those 10 years irrevocably doomed the world. Vivi's 500 years broke her mind. One of these is weightier.
... The latter one?
Also, if you really think Vivi can 'potentially be right' when we have straight up confirmation that the universe would be unmadeand never remade if she got her way, I don't know what to tell you. This isn't fact-twisting either, Ana confirmed that Winter stated the first part, and if you think about it for two seconds, Rael doesn't need the matter of the universe to reshape it in his image - he proved as much by creating a pocket universe in mere instants, whisking an unknown number of people away into this infinite expanse, and doing so as the world died. In other words, he isn't gonna remake the world in his image - because he could do that already if he wanted to.
Perhaps he needs to eliminate the other Original Mages, or they would be able to stop him in the process. That's an obvious line of speculation. The point is, you're taking a stab at Rael's motives but it's not nearly as guaranteed as you believe.
Her mind is broken. Such absolute disregard for the lives of your fellow men implies a severe mental illness. The torture might not have done that to her, but Vivi flatly does not care about other people, which is a sign of a broken mind, no matter where it came from.
Is that so? Vivi seemed pretty annoyed with us for killing Rika, I think. And for that matter, Rika sacrificed her life for Vivi's, an act one would be unlikely to do for a sociopath. I don't think there's no concern there. What reasonable discussion of the issue? The discussions I can remember are: -Vivi: Not reasonable. -Rhea: Got fed lies by Vivi, sooooooo... -Teracor: Includes an admission of guilt, which is to say, makes what is said fit with what is done. If you can think of any others please point them out. But the one conversation that counts as reasonable involved an admission of guilt. Not even gonna discuss the second point because seriously, one period of time condemned the world irrevocably. One was years of torture. The welfare of so many people beats that of one person, and that's that. As for point 3...that doesn't require destroying the universe. It just requires killing the mages, which Rael proved he was capable of doing without overkilling, so that doesn't work. And as for Point 4...Amy did what she did to Learrette for Samantha. Are we gonna argue she isn't a sociopath?
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:37:00 PM
#333 |
From: Anagram | #331
You don't know Vivi's mind is broken.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Her mind is broken. Such absolute disregard for the lives of your fellow men implies a severe mental illness. The torture might not have done that to her, but Vivi flatly does not care about other people, which is a sign of a broken mind, no matter where it came from.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:36:00 PM
#332 |
Also, if you really think Vivi can 'potentially be right' when we have straight up confirmation that the universe would be unmadeand never remade if she got her way, I don't know what to tell you. This isn't fact-twisting either, Ana confirmed that Winter stated the first part, and if you think about it for two seconds, Rael doesn't need the matter of the universe to reshape it in his image - he proved as much by creating a pocket universe in mere instants, whisking an unknown number of people away into this infinite expanse, and doing so as the world died. In other words, he isn't gonna remake the world in his image - because he could do that already if he wanted to.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:34:00 PM
#330 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #329
Also. If Vivi was being portrayed as 'sympathetic, but obviously misguided' rather than 'sympathetic with a legitimate grudge', this argument would not even be happening. It'd be easy to forgive her for being wrong, but we can't forgive her for potentially being right. There's nothing the party hates more than an antagonist who questions their moral superiority, and here it's particularly drastic because what's at stake is how the universe destruction plan is judged. The thing is that moral superiority isn't in question scep, because it doesn't exist. It's rather the opposite, actually - the whole point is Vivi attempting to claim the moral high-ground, and how she can't. Ask any member of the party and none (with the possible exception of Amy) will try to defend what they did as not being heinous. It's just that Vivi isn't any better, and is in fact worse because she lashes out at the world, instead of doing something with the entirely new universe that was created. From: Sceptilesolar | #328
It's very, very hard to argue Vivi has lost more than him.
500 years of your life trumps all of that, sorry bro. Considering we actually have her beat on that, too (we lost 10 very, very important years, because instead of having a decade to find a way to save the world from the Cthulhus, we had less than a month; Vivi's lost years could have been spent in a less painful fashion, but not a more productive one), not a chance. Those 10 years irrevocably doomed the world. Vivi's 500 years broke her mind. One of these is weightier.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 8:25:00 PM
#325 |
Things Valerian sacrificed:
A) His family (which was still alive at that point, though he hadn't seen them in quite a while).
B) His friends back home.
C) His original set of dreams.
D) Euri, Calmarie, and all the other people he'd met and befriended along the way.
E) More generally, the universe whole - the loss of life hurt Valerian far more than it did Vivi, and this is indisputable.
F) His principles. He has been forced to reevaluate himself after what he has done.
It's very, very hard to argue Vivi has lost more than him.
For the next point, it does not follow, because Rael was quite capable of not torturing Vivi, but chose not to. So you gotta pick one or the other, can't have your cake and eat it too.
For the third point, considering that she adscribes us a failure at the goal level, it's a significant game-changer, I would say. Considering we were assured Rael would not survive, we'd obviously done something else if we'd known he would.
And for the last point...no, I think it was Kirie being annoyed at Valerian for being Valerian.
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| Topic | Homestuck General Discussion: coloUrs and mayhem |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 8:20:00 PM
#275 |
From: tcaz2 | #275
I'm actually fairly disappointed.
It seems like the whole thing was just a pointless joke to mess with the entire fanbase. You do realize that for the first time ever Tavros and Vriska can talk things out now, yes?
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| Topic | Twostuck: Purge Monster > You Edition [sburbopolis] |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 8:08:00 PM
#5 |
Ups. Making sure this doesn't go!
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| Topic | First scans of Hyperdimension Neptunia V |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 7:55:00 PM
#7 |
Ah, OK, that's better. The idea of five H-DN games sounded way too crazy to believe!
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| Topic | First scans of Hyperdimension Neptunia V |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 7:52:00 PM
#2 |
...Were there four previous Hyperdimension Neptunia titles, or is that V just a vee and not a 5?
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 7:49:00 PM
#323 |
Valerian, at least, is indignant because to him, Vivi's motives are absolutely selfish, and the fact that she lacks the perspective to realize that he, at least, has sacrificed far more than her means she can't even claim we did things 'to hurt her'. It's an entirely self-centered viewpoint, something that is abhorrent to him considering his entire philosophy is basically predicated on the sacrifices of the few for the safety and happiness of the many (including him - especially him, even. This is a philosophy with flaws, but flaws he has only just begun to notice now that he has a truly selfish desire to give him a different perspective).
And of course, there's the whole 'adscribe the faults of one to many' thing. I wonder how she'd react if we accused her of harem-ifying people and mindraping them? After all, she's with Rael, so clearly she is responsible for it! Just like Amy and the party, right?
PS: Also, we didn't know Rael's minions were going to get spared at all, so trying to use that against us is BS. The whole point of the strategy was to wipe him and his gang out completely!
PPS: And this doesn't even cover the whole 'put Rael's sins on the party's shoulders' thing.
EDIT: And Kirie getting annoyed at Valerian shouldn't be used as a point for anything considering he's a walking, talking annoyance to her. That's like remarking on the fac tthat Valerian swords things up or Vanessa is reasonable - it's entirely commonplace and unremarkable.
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| Topic | Homestuck General Discussion: coloUrs and mayhem |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 7:32:00 PM
#272 |
You know, all this Tavrissprite talk, and yet nobody has commented on the best part of the update: dat Janeface. Practically every face she makes is meme worthy at this point.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 6:47:00 PM
#320 |
As the saying goes, 'pride comes before the fall'. And boy, when Vivi falls, it's gonna be one hell of a tumble.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 5:41:00 PM
#318 |
From: Anagram | #317
Accel_R8 posted...
Vivi is in no way sympathetic anymore. The words "YOU WILL BE RAPED LAST" came from her mouth, because somebody said something mean. She's pretty much just a greedy so-and-so and her attempts to screw the universe up AGAIN after it's already been reset makes her an enemy to not just the party, but stability of this universe in general.
She said that after you defended her ally who insulted her for not dying with her daughter, whom the party killed. That's some pretty solid mitigating circumstance there.
And what is Vivi lying about, other than saying the party didn't punish Amy, which she didn't know about, was a minor punishment that had no effecvt on their adventuring together, and honestly, is a fairly minor point overall. Not telling people that yes, we destroyed the universe, but it just so happens that universe had less than a month to live and that it was specifically going to be unmade if Rael won. Mentioning this since Rhea has said 'well you can't know what would have happened' but Winter was rather specific.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 5:10:00 PM
#316 |
From: Accel_R8 | #315
Vivi is in no way sympathetic anymore. The words "YOU WILL BE RAPED LAST" came from her mouth, because somebody said something mean. She's pretty much just a greedy so-and-so and her attempts to screw the universe up AGAIN after it's already been reset makes her an enemy to not just the party, but stability of this universe in general. More or less. And the crux of the argument in Log 2 was basically that she's hiding her true reasons behind a foolish, weak, and indefensible attempt at taking the moral high-ground. If she stuck to her selfish reasons, she'd at least be worthy of pure pity, instead of pity mingled with anger. Instead she tries to portray us as villains, which is a complete flop, particularly since she falls back on lies.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 4:50:00 PM
#314 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #313
I think you're mischaracterizing Vivi because it's easier to frame her as a hypocrite than deal with her honestly. I don't frame her as a hypocrite. Only as a liar - which she is, really.
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KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 4:27:00 PM
#312 |
Finally got around to doing this...at Ana's request, I went ahead and compiled most of a conversation that took place in the wee hours of the morning. He think you guys will find it interesting, and I, personally, share that opinion on at least one part of it. Without further ado: 1) Log 1: On the future and events that never happened (this includes fighting a group of evil counterparts, the Injustice Gang to our Justice League): http://freetexthost.com/f3dmwpr6ko2) Log 2: A summary of why the people who criticize us for blowing up the world are resorting to doubletalk. If there's any part you're considering reading, I highly recommend this one. It includes some very interesting points and counterpoints as to why Vivi trying to claim moral high-ground on us is an attempt at securing a position she simply does not have any right to: http://freetexthost.com/qsrgyn1bm13) Log 3: Somehow, this segued into a noncanon, fourth-wall breaking, but in-character debate between Rhea and Valerian on reasons to doubt the party. I personally really like the way it turned out, but it is, I think less important than the way Log 2 crystallizes Vivi's faults: http://freetexthost.com/g1nommzexi
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 2:42:00 PM
#311 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #310
I ran it on Parallels since I have a mac. I don't have Parallels anymore. My condolences. In that case it's gonna be improv time. I think there was a way to run the builder though...
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 2:33:00 PM
#309 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #308
Actually, I lost the Builder when I wiped my computer, along with the ability to run it. Maybe I'm just being impatient
... Well, it probably can't hurt for me to subscribe for a month while I don't have access to the offline builder. ...How did you lose the ability to run the builder?
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| Topic | Sceptile's 4e D&D Topic Round 2 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 2:32:00 PM
#210 |
From: Anagram | #209
I wish there was a The Boss-style "take apart enemy's weapon" power. There's technically Exorcism of Steel, though that's a high level Fighter power. Taking apart an enemy's weapon tends to be 'whatever power reduces the enemy to 0' instead because otherwise it gets really really broken.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 12:51:00 PM
#307 |
Sceptilesolar posted...
Also, think I should subscribe to DDI? I'm a bit short on money lately, but it's pretty cheap, and it might be nice.
Not unless you want the Dragon access, since you already have the builder. Admittedly Dragon is coo'.
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| Topic | Twostuck: Purge Monster > You Edition [sburbopolis] |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 9:57:00 AM
#3 |
From: muddersmilk | #002
Someone should get on an update for last night. Indeed. Though I think I can hesitantly say waiting until we're done today could be better.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 2:18:00 AM
#298 |
Updating the wishlist because I totally forgot the Ring slot existed before.
-Battle Standard of the Hungry Blade, Dragon 381
-Power Jewel, Adventurer's Vault.
-Iron Armbands of Power +4, Adventurer's Vault.
-Horned Helm, Paragon Tier, PHB1.
-Bloodfury Gauntlet Axes, Adventurer's Vault 2.
-Shard of Merciless Cold +3, Eberron Player's Guide.
-Ring of Giants * 2, Dragon 378.
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| Topic | My friends are scrubs. [#Brawl] |
KanzarisKelshen
04/18/12 1:28:00 AM
#56 |
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #047
Brawl is kinda like monopoly as it turns people against each other.
Difference being Monopoly actually has good mechanics. This is just false and ignorant. You wanna trashtalk Brawl, fine, but pick an example that has mechanics better than it does.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 10:07:00 PM
#292 |
Option 3, with Option 2 being a distant second precisely because Lloyd exists. He doesn't exactly have anything that links him to the main quest, so that wouldn't work for him.
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| Topic | oh my god what, Senran Kagura's getting a sequel? [3ds] |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 8:29:00 PM
#5 |
Can't believe I already knew about this. I still don't know how the info found me. Still, happy to see the 3DS is host to just as many diverse games as the DS, I s'pose?
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 7:02:00 PM
#286 |
From: SovietOmega | #282
Anagram posted...
It's probably for the best that Lloyd did this. It could have been Amy. She probably would have tried to mindrape the Godhead and then who knows where we would be?
*amy convinces the godhead that it is a doll and to transfer all power to amy*
*amy explodes* So...godHEAD...fascist explodes... ...Hey, didn't I see this on Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull already?
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 5:43:00 PM
#278 |
From: Accel_R8 | #277
I still say there was a lot of the stupid flying around on all parties involved. Totally. For once though, I can claim not to be the majority shareholder of stupid! ...Somehow, I feel bad because of it. It means bad things. :<
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 4:34:00 PM
#276 |
From: Sceptilesolar | #275
Well we wouldn't have done that if there was a little more transparency involved!
... Though, you could probably justify it by the fact that we destroyed the last universe. Maybe they could have had the same worries about us that we had about them, the use of the Godhead for our own purposes. This would make more sense, since we do have an history of using Godheads. Pity it wasn't what actually went down. :-/
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 2:23:00 PM
#272 |
From: Anagram | #271
Sceptilesolar posted...
Tatyana didn't know you weren't trying to steal the Godhead for yourself or anything, as Tatyana didn't know you, and thus didn't tell you what was going on. As far as she knew, you guys were trying to release the World Eater.
I'm surprised Rhea didn't realize that the party will bumble into literally everything, but at the least I'd think Tatyana could have tried 'hey guys you probably don't want to go in there because you'll destroy the world'.
But... she thought you might be trying to destroy the world. "Hey guys you probably don't want to do what you want to do in exactly the way you want to do it." This after we seriously told her we were fighting her mistress because her plan was to summon someone who will end the universe, whom we want to see stay out of the universe. Yeah...
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 12:49:00 PM
#263 |
You know, totally unrelated to anything else, but...know what I'd be curious to see? What the New World Outlaws look like in Anagram art. Would be pretty interesting, I reckon.
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| Topic | Let's talk about old games that have probably been forgotten about |
KanzarisKelshen
04/17/12 1:00:00 AM
#28 |
How old is old, anyway? Because recommendations vary depending on how close to the present we can get.
Regardless, though...Myth, Myth, and more Myth. The first two games are seriously real contenders for Top 10 Best RTS Ever. They're really more tactical than strategic games, but I seriously can't hype them up enough. Before Starcraft was even a thing, and IIRC before the supremacy of AoE, Myth came out with an incredible story, very good music, and some super hard but amazingly rewarding and memorable gameplay. Anybody who played it and hears 'Casualty!' is going to get nostalgia-bombed really hard, and for good reason. If you ever wondered why people whined that Bungie had gone to **** when they first started making Halo, these games are why - nothing they've come up with since then has had such a long-lasting appeal.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/16/12 9:21:00 PM
#259 |
From: Anagram | #253
It's funny when you put it that way, and less funny when you tell Rhea to not play God while you steal the power of gods. To be fair, we only took it because the alternative was giving it to Vivi. I dunno, I'd say in this case, anything else was basically on the tier of Lloyd grabbing the Godhead.
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| Topic | Anagram's D&D Game - Topic 666 |
KanzarisKelshen
04/16/12 12:33:00 PM
#252 |
From: Anagram | #251
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Anagram | #249
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Anagram | #246
Said the party who is, at minimum, responsible for three separate off-screen genocides of entire races.
That was kind of the point, yes. That final fork in the road is the party going Full Tyrant.
Don't forget driving Rhea away by blaming her for things she tries to stop!
On that point I regret nothing! It's a lack of trust that got us into this mess in the first place.
But... that doesn't mean she needs to involve you in things you (should theoretically) have no effect on? Put it this way: Not accounting for us is like the US of A not preparing for hurricanes or quakes. :P
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