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Currently, seems like Newsom or Shapiro (Shapiro was a favourite for Harris' VP, and was probably skipped to save him in case Harris had a huge loss like she did). They'll need to put a couple "less offensive" candidates up for a while before they can try actually leaning left again.

Also potentially Kamala Harris again, to really underline that nothing has been learned.

DoesntMatter posted...

well personally i think that Trump's reference to "our little secret" when at the rally with Mike Johnson was him bragging about it. and he said he's gonna let the secret out once all the election stuff is all over.

Same, which makes it seem like a more likely thing than just "no evidence" junk.

Its a shame that Trump coming out and literally bragging about having an illegitimate government still wouldn't actually lead to anything.

I think if Trump (or his associates) managed to cheat the election (which in theory could explain how literally everything shifted towards Trump this time), he'd end up bragging about it. The first Trump administration leaked like a sieve, and this time he's gone out of his way to make sure no-one that could be considered competent is hanging around.

So if the election was rigged, we'll know by like, March just by admission. And none of it will matter.

At the moment, we're like, millennia away from AI being able to write a good book. Because AI is still nowhere close to moving past being like, a neat gimmick, but it has no real quality to it.

Yeah AI could put out a ton of books, but none of them will ever be anything close to good.

Basically: They've learned nothing and if there's a 2028 election they will make literally the same mistakes again.

I just tried to use the website too, that immediately would turn me off from buying anything.

Canadian Black Friday sales aren't even good. They're literally the sales they do like, any other time of the year. And these sales have been going on for like, a month now.

$15,000 isn't enough to stop me from likely dying miserably in whatever weird hellscape Canada would become if just suddenly left alone like that.

Maybe if I wasn't Canadian. but still, doubts.

Instead of politics, this is actually a brand new way to get ahead in the college sports scene.

You want to get wins? Get yourself a trans athlete and opponents will just forfeit for political points, while you get the actual ones.

hivebent4life posted...

Trumps victory is making many liberal journalists turn on trans people. Its going to be a terrible four years

They turned on trans people during the campaign - The whole last like 4 years has been Dems just not really fighting back anything republicans were saying, so it meant trans people, immigrants, etc... all just quietly being pushed in front of the bus.

Dynedux posted...

Are there any honorable republicans left after McCain (and even then, LoL) died?

Mitt Romney will probably complain about it, then go along anyways (remember when he was supposed to be the extremist end of the party?)

Besides, we'll see once the Trump admin actually starts - a lot like how a lot of people are only being paid attention to because they're going full-MAGA, there will be a bunch of politicians who make a name for themselves by providing the "rational discourse" against Trump's over the top craziness. They'll all fall in line, but it's to create the impression of caring about people while they strip everyone's rights away. And the biggest names to come out of this will have to be republicans getting in the way.

It'll all be theatre, but it will make Trump and his policies look like they actually give a shit about people.

He truly cares about the left's struggle to destroy America. That's why he'll be doing it himself for them.

People saying all of them are wrong. There would be a bit of pushback from the "honourable" republicans who want to pretend they care about things.

But when it comes time for something to actually happen, they'll all fall in line and support whatever Trump does - we saw this bit of political theatre like, every time Trump tried to do something stupid or illegal.

So it's going to be terrible?

WingsOfGood posted...

"deportation"

which realistically they can't just throw people they dislike into other countries so instead they go to a Gulag and disappear

The point isn't really to just displace all of these people, it's to scare everyone into following along so they'll accept the significantly lower standard of living that will very quickly start happening from Trump admin policies. If anyone can be deported, everyone will be too scared to step up and try to fight back.

I mean, his base are idiots, do we think he can just say he's doing it and that'll be it?

Also, if he tanks the Canadian economy, it'll effectively guarantee the conservatives win the next Canadian election, and PP in Canada will probably just like, sell Canada to Trump for a couple hundred bucks.

He won't lose any votes for tanking the economy, and it can only help him politically - its a win/win on the evil scale, and the only people who lose are every single regular person.

Rogan has basically become a far-right megaphone, no surprise that also includes Russian propaganda.

EPR-radar posted...

If MAGAts are whining like this, that means people cutting MAGAts out of their lives works.

The biggest fear of every conservative is purely that their friends and family stop talking to them for being an asshole.

Of course cutting them out works.

LightSnake posted...

Jack Smith says something akin to the rules say we cant bring this against a sitting president but we absolutely still believe the case is correct They dont care about the rules, why do you? Sad cowardice

Its because Smith officially has no more power here, and Trump has made it abundantly clear that he will punish anyone who goes against him, and picking spineless sycophants to run the DOJ basically guarantees that.

Smith can't really do anything anyways, because the second Trump takes office the DOJ will force him to drop the case, and then Smith will have to flee the country at best. Dropping the case first is at least bending the knee because he can't do anything anyways.

Yeah there's a reason Paul only does circus fights - because he'd lose to actual current boxers in their physical primes.

He picks names that sound like they could put up a fight but really couldn't, because he needs to make it seem like he could lose, but then still win.

NatsuSama posted...

To be clear, Garland was most definitely soft on Trump. Despite your dear leader whining and clutching their pearls of "weaponized justice department", the JD was more invested in trying to appear unbiased, than actually being unbiased.

Because if they were actually unbiased, Trump would have been prosecuted month 1 of Garlands confirmation. The man dragged his feet on touching Trump due to optics.

tbf, a 50/50 Senate majority with Cinema and Manchin blocking everything meant the first like 2 years of Biden's term was spent with everything being obstructed as much as possible. And this wasn't just the case with federal legislation - this was every single committee and department.

Garland absolutely could've gone much harder, but he was also stymied from doing anything until like 2023.

I mean, Trump won. Not really much that can be done.

Especially that Trump has made it obvious he will extra-judicially target his enemies and treat himself and his friends as above the law.

We've always had a pretty separate legal system for "important people", it just usually isn't this obvious.

If Vance kept up the Trump schtick of "we'll lower the price of groceries" then yes. The Biden campaign was tied to a lot of inflation and coming out of a recession, which was heavily against them regardless.

And the most important part of that, was that nothing Trump said even mattered. Replacing him with someone else wouldn't really change anything, because people would be against the Dems whoever was on the republican ticket.

They did it so Trump could recoup his losses via the insurance money, because he's otherwise broke AF.

The Trump White House refuses to allow investigation into why Trump suddenly started paying for billion-dollar insurance against foreign attacks.

Now, tbf, in Ontario (Canada) our corrupt blatantly evil premier is currently planning on just giving everyone in the province $200 to re-elect him right around election time. And despite doing nothing remotely useful or productive or even neutral instead of actively harmful, it will likely work and get him re-elected for another term.

So its entirely possible - its not like Trump or the GOP give a shit about the federal budget, to just write everyone a cheque around the midterms/next general election (if there are ones) to make sure he gets a landslide victory again.

TMOG posted...

I've been rewatching the whole show, albeit at a certain point it's largely as background noise. I'm up to season 26. The writing isn't great and a few of the episodes are recycled concepts from earlier seasons, but there are a few good jokes that slipped past me the first time.

By like season 32-33 The Simpsons is basically just the show it was originally satirizing, just because that kind of show barely exists anymore.

Its really weird, because its such an interesting thing that because its been on so long, Simpsons has lost the identity it used to have, struggled to find another one, and then actually did so - all the while still getting full seasons every Sunday night.

Yes, I hate it so much. Especially because it takes a minute and then writes it out, pushing the actual stuff farther down the page meaning I can't even quickly scan the top couple hits and find whatever I'm actually looking for.

It was much better before, when they would just take a snippet that sounded like it applied from the top answer. Or before it did any of this.

I think they'll rather end the show then replace and of the big voice actors - Milhouse's VA retiring probably means he's gonna be significantly less used.

Though I would also imagine its something like how the guy who made SpongeBob didn't want SpongeBob to be a kid in school and all these other things, then the second he died they made a bunch of spin offs specifically focusing on the stuff the guy didn't want.

Even if regular Simpsons ends at idk season 40, we'll immediately get 9 random spinoffs where Bart becomes a lawyer, Maggie in high school, and Lisa travelling from college to college as she gains international experience towards becoming president. And maybe that one about Chief Wiggum and Skinner opening a PI agency in New Orleans.

There's also the chance the GOP doesn't actually want to deport all the immigrants/POC, because they want the cheap labor.

So instead, by making a really big show of deporting any immigrant who gets out of line, all current immigrants who don't want to be sent back to wherever (or maybe Mexico regardless) will therefore accept even lower wages, even lower safety standards etc... because of terror that any nudge in the wrong direction will get them deported, whether they are here legally or not.

Effectively taking a step to take the country one step closer to re-instituting slavery.

emblem-man posted...

What's this based on?

The short answer is that your body digests glucose (the "typical" sugar) and fructose (the less common naturally) differently. Because glucose is the building block of every single carbohydrate, it can handle you eating glucose fairly well. There's always stuff like over-eating, but its still just your body doing regular body stuff.

Fructose is so much less common naturally, so your body barely knows how to deal with it (as in, it literally converts fructose to glucose in your body before it can do anything, and will often immediately just go into fat to deal with later).

This means that fructose in higher quantities (like, HFCS - which is in everything) has a lot more long-term dangers to your body.

LightSnake posted...

The economic devastation it'll cause is something the GOP will be forced to own. And they want to deport millions, making it something that'll go on for years. It'll be the largest humanitarian crisis in modern american history and whoever runs after trump doesn't have his fucking forcefield.

The GOP will just blame like, SJWs or the gays or whoever is next on the chopping block and their base will just go along with it. As if the Republicans did the best they could to keep the recession from getting worse, instead of them literally causing it.

Ivynn posted...

I honestly don't think Trump and his ilk care enough about black people to actually go after them. They're likely just gonna be ignored and never have their concerns addressed beyond "bootstraps."

I think the target list goes illegal immigrants -> legal immigrants -> Arabs/Muslims first.

They do, it just won't come up until wayyyyy down the line, because it'll be stuff like allowing Jim Crow if not blatantly re-introducing slavery.

Deej posted...

Legal immigrants?

MAGA doesn't consider any immigrants to be here "legally".

Maybe if they're white.

sfcalimari posted...

It doesn't but people convince themselves that it does. American sodas with HFCS taste way better and crisper than the same sodas sold everywhere else with cane sugar. They're just killing you slightly faster.

Also I've just come to the realization that RFKJ is literally the Bed of Chaos. Or rather that the worm in his brain is.

HFCS is less healthy than Cane Sugar, and by like quite a bit. Its not like Cane Sugar is healthy, but its so much better than HFCS.

Literally the only reason companies use HFCS is because its cheap to produce.

Probably not. It's a good move to tease going pro, but all of his fights are circus fights for crazy spectacle more than being good at boxing. Paul loses so much by losing to an actual boxer, and gains very little beating random boxers the average guy hasn't heard of.

Smallville posted...

would codifying roe make the supreme court ruling on abortion null and void? like abortion would be completely legal, but what is required to codify Roe.....?

Technically it wouldn't void the ruling on Roe v. Wade, it'd just make Abortion an actual part of the law, instead of only kind of being protected by an old court ruling that always was sort of sketchy.

There's nothing unconstitutional about making a law to guarantee abortion (or to put it in the constitution), just that conservatives have been blocking every attempt to actually do so since Roe/Wade happened.

Honestly surprised she's bothering to say anything. She doesn't have anything to do until 4 years from now if there's another election. Its not like she's actually trying to build a real third party or anything.

No, but most of the people in my family/friends who I feel might be Trumpers or Trumper-adjacent I've more or less already distanced myself from if not directly cut contact.

Also, I'm Canadian, so being a Trumper here is even more cringy.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

If only that picture were accurate. Republicans did drill the hole, but Democrats aren't even trying to get the water out. Besides, I'm not saying to stop voting for Democrats. I'm saying to get the establishment Democrats out of office. That is on the voters to do. Perhaps start by educating the general population how primaries work. Also start paying attention when establishment Democrats are sabotaging the Progressive Democrats, and try to counter them.

I think its a solid picture. If the Democrats wanted to do something more progressive, they'd plug the hole, but they'd rather bucket the water out to make the struggle last longer.

The only thing the picture is missing is a tool box or a shitload of duct tape the democrats don't want to use for some reason.

Charisma is literally the only thing Trump has going for him.

Apparently, its more than enough. He has way less charisma than he did in 2016 because he's old AF, but its basically just leftover charisma from 2016-2020 that got him elected anyways.

They need to lean into the populism and stuff Trump does. People don't give a shit about policy, they want vibes.

Trying to talk reasonably about policy when they don't have a good policy to begin with is why they keep losing to nothing of value.

Heineken14 posted...

There is probably some sort of logic theory behind it. Like, a drip from a faucet is more noticable than it just being actually on or something weird like that. Lol

If only. But the real reason is simply liberals/democrats have a bar that constantly is raised so they can never reach it, and conservatives/republicans have a bar in the 4th circle of hell, and then gets lowered further when they still fail to pass it.

this isn't even the first time. Here's him saying he should get a third term in 2020. He ain't stepping down willingly. He didn't step down willingly the first time either.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/donald-trump-third-term-2024/index.html

This shouldn't be a surprise to literally anyone.

Voidgolem posted...

There was a long stretch of time where musk was able to appear to be normal. Normal-ish, then he had an extremely public argument over being able to build an (extremely impractical if not outright useless) submarine to rescue some people in a cave, featuring calling people actually working the rescue efforts pedophiles.

It's been full mask off ever since.

I'd guess the normal-ish Neat Tech Guy routine won some users over back then

Not quite ever since, he started sliding pretty hard after that, but didn't go full fascist trump supporter until there was a news story about him being a sex pest. He conveniently went full conservative about 3 hours before the story dropped and claimed it was cancel culture.

This doesn't really sound like these people ever cared about States Rights!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b0cb36a3.png

Musk is just another figurehead, he's also too stupid to be calling the shots. Don't pretend he's smart. He bailed Trump out of a monumental failure and is being repaid by getting to set up a government "D.O.G.E" - its like appealing to a teen who spends too much time on 4Chan.

YellowSUV posted...

That is long term the smart move for Republicans.

The filibuster gives Republicans a free pass for voting yes on garbage and unpopular legislation because Democrats will filibuster it. With no filibuster, these Republican will have consequences since they will have to live with the aftermath of unpopular legislation OR vote no and piss off their base.

The filibuster is the biggest obstacle to actual progressive legislation. With no filibuster we would all have universal healthcare for example.

Yeah, the republicans don't really care if they can't get any of their super evil stuff done, as long as everything generally gets worse for the average American over time. The Filibuster means they can effectively stop anything actually progressive from happening.

however, I doubt much of their base would be upset if Republicans get rid of the filibuster, then re-instate it after 2026 midterms or 2028 when they lose total power.

WingsOfGood posted...

He won't get the boot. Trump will listen and obey Elon over all these other people.

Why? Trump is dumb and Elon is smart. Trump thinks Elon is a genius. Trump thinks wealth = value and Elon is like #1 or #2 richest man on the planet.

And lastly Elon proved his loyalty beyond anyone else. How? Buying twitter and unbanning Trump. Note I think secretly Elon isn't that loyal but he is smarter than all these guys Trump will never figure it out that Elon is puppeteering him.

Elon is the exact same kind of dumbass Trump is. Trump is only leaning into Elon because Elon effectively bailed him out and helped give him the whole election. Elon is just another shitty car salesman who wants all the credit for others' work, and there isn't enough space for two of them running the country.

There's zero chance Trump sees his relationship with Elon as anything besides purely transactional, and both him and Elon are the kind of guys to run on the bill and refuse to pay it if they think they won't gain any more out of it.

Joe has always been a bit of an outlier, because he takes pride in him being sort of a dumb****, and the "typical" democrat is generally a kind of "snub your nose at the silly dumb people below you" type.

Then of course, COVID happened, Rogan's brain melted, and now near every episode has him shoving in some kind of far right jargon in there. And instead of many left-leaning individuals coming over to try and walk him back, they just kind of gave up and gave one of the biggest platforms in modern society to the far right.

No. Kind of expecting it to be like Mayweather/Other Paul. Where Mayweather takes him out in less than a round, but then stops and carries Paul to a "good fight". Tyson might still knock Paul out after a while, but I'm expecting the same vibe.

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No. In Canada, an election can theoretically be called at any time, and are often called early if the government feels like they're in a position to grow from an election.

Trudeau called an election basically the second COVID was starting to cool off a bit in hopes he could turn his minority back into a majority. People didn't like COVID being used like this, and he ended up basically with a minority government again.

No. There's no other liberal leader available right now, and there's no situation him stepping down would support anything other than helping push a conservative victory.

Pierre Pollievre is Trump without any of the charisma, so once Trump-ism starts to cause problems and lose popularity his campaign will be sunk. The Cons are desperate for an election as soon as possible, and they can't get one unless something stupid like Trudeau stepping down.

A Con win is still likely because nothing matters, but Trudeau stepping down won't help anything.

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He'll be worse.