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Sparks flew as LDoFOXHOUND Ocelot gave Urza a serious scare early on. Though he ended up doubled in the end after the most popular match of the contest (so far), he made a very valiant effort. Votals: 21-12.
(1) Neuro Nougami From Devil Detective Neuro, Neuro is a demon from hell. He weakens when fighting on earth, but his weakness is progressive rather than sudden. He is extremely resistant(able to tank up to an atomic bomb at full power) and has incredible speed, being able to catch a bullet with his eyelids. He also has access to the 777 Tools of Hell, which are tools he uses according to the situation.
Neuro is also a super detective, able to tell an opponent's ability with merely a glance, once finding out a mutant by noticing the vibration in his molecules. By discovering a "mystery" or a secret that his opponent is hiding, he is able to eat the opponent's "soul" effectively destroying him in one hit.
(8) The Host N/A From the web serial Curtains Close, The Host is an extremely powerful entity who created the story of the serial, and the multiverse contained within. He is omnipotent and omniscient, able to perceive everything that has happened, is happening, or will happen unless he intentionally restrains his sight with no ill effects. He is extremely durable as well, ingesting large quantities of raw entropy without suffering any negative side effects, and has good enough reflexes to will time to stop on command in reaction to any attack. His main weapon is his ability to twist reality to his whims, derived from his connection to the story and its fourth wall (being aware of the fact that he is part of a fiction and addressing the readers directly time and again), which he uses not only to defeat, but also humiliate his foes (in a fight with another reality warper, who went on to become the God of a timeline granted to him, he used a fraction of his powers to spawn infinite numbers of clones, each as powerful as the original, teleport to the beginning of time to foil an attempt at assassinating him before the plan was even fully conceived, perfectly freeze time, redirect a special attack designed specifically to kill him, and land a variety of nonlethal hits using circus tricks and comical sound effects). His control over reality is so mighty that, with an utterance of a simple proverb in the right language, reality begun to unravel itself. When assuming a corporeal form, The Host is never seen without his trademark bladed cane, which currently stores the essences of several Concepts (such as Silence, Disease, and Despair). He is confident, arrogant, whimsical, and above all, extremely bitter and disillusioned about his lot in life, resigned to engage in the most ridiculous of pranks or the vilest tortures to satisfy the whims of The Audience.
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So...yeah. I can't vote in this match due to the single biggest bias possible, but The Host has this. He has the same nasty, vile temper of Neuro while possessing muuuuuuuuuch bigger powers and more refinement in the ways he goes about playing with people, as well as being one of the few characters with actual ability to know his opponents' tricks beforehand. The Stakes aren't high enough to affect this fight, either.
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From: pjbasis | #004 Would the Host retain his powers somewhere besides the multiverse he created?
And would he be defeated if it was funny?
Yes and Ni. As long as The Audience exists he has powers and they do not wane or increase (i. e. he's always set to "max" as it were, though he can use just a portion of them if he feels like it). While he does cater to the whims of The Audience, he does have some wiggle room, as demonstrated by the fact that he doesn't even begin to take a world-shattering duel seriously and how he decides to get drunk (though he could just warp himself into being boozed up) after the fact, as well as the way he despises his job.
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #005 what the hell is this
The result of something I couldn't have seen coming beforehand but I decided to go with once the nom process happened.
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So wait, if The Host only has powers due to The Audience, if no one posts or votes in this match (thus, not paying attention), does he lose his powers?
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So wait, if The Host only has powers due to The Audience, if no one posts or votes in this match (thus, not paying attention), does he lose his powers?
...Man, this is a pretty tough question actually. It's kind of voided by the fact there's been posts already, but I honestly have no clue. I'll have to get back to you on this.
From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #008 Also, this makes it sounds like he could lose, as long as The Audience (us) wants him to.
Sorta. It's very much within his personality to lose if The Audience calls for it, but also his style to instead put on a show, like setting up a Vileness and Brutality 101 class to teach Neuro some lessons before sending him out to a heavenly paradise where he could put them to the test, defeating him by ringout, while ignoring his attacks all the way. As I said though, I do not believe the Stakes are sufficient here: this is a very run of the mill kind of affaire for the Host, he spends most of his time drilling some sense into insufferable, vain supernatural bastards and humilliating them. Maybe against a true blue hero that'd be a possible event, since The Audience loves dramatic underdog victories from likable characters.
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From: Regaro_Ukiera | Posted: 9/20/2011 7:02:07 PM | #011 so this just comes down to "who do you like more" since that's the guy the audience is going to want to win
Neuro
Based on this
Neuro
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The Host clearly decides that Tenma, the aspect of darkness, is a better fight for Neuro. Then when Tenma probably loses, he doffs his hat, and gives Neuro a one way ticket to oblivion as a reward.
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From: JeffreyRaze | #014 The Host clearly decides that Tenma, the aspect of darkness, is a better fight for Neuro. Then when Tenma probably loses, he doffs his hat, and gives Neuro a one way ticket to oblivion as a reward.
Man, this is actually something the Host probably does in this matchup. That or he sends a demonhunting nun at Neuro or something because he loves "drama! tension! clichéd plotlines!".
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Regaro_Ukiera posted... so this just comes down to "who do you like more" since that's the guy the audience is going to want to win
Neuro
Neuro
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Also can we vote rally him since the audience is his power and thus he is VIRTUALLY UNDEFEATABLE LIKE UNDERTAKER AT WRESTLEMANAI
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Since I'm the audience and want him to win he should with his Omniscience Omnipresence Omnislashence.
Yeah I really can't say my thoughts are any different.
Host's audience wants him to win
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Neuro because apparently the Host runs on "what the audience wants" and that's such a ****ing stupid argument to allow in MPFC that...I'm forced to use it against him...god damn it. Feel free to not count this vote if you want, it's stupid.
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From: Panthera | #023 Neuro because apparently the Host runs on "what the audience wants" and that's such a ****ing stupid argument to allow in MPFC that...I'm forced to use it against him...god damn it. Feel free to not count this vote if you want, it's stupid.
No, the Host does what the audience wants him to. His powers are simply just "colossaly powerful reality warping with several showings". Basically this is personality arguments at their finest. If you think The Host doesn't consider Neuro a character interesting enough to lose to, you vote for him. If you think he does, you vote against him.
Just a note to clarify for everyone: the Host does have Free Will and he can do his own thing. The Audience isn't a tangible being that forcibly compels him to do stuff, he just talks to them directly and sets things up to entertain them. So if he decided to defeat Neuro here, he wouldn't be locked down due to his disobedience and stripped of his powers - he'd just have to provide The Audience with entertainment down the line. The Audience knows what 'payoff' means after all!
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Out of curiosity where the hell can we read up on this "The Host"? It says he's from a web serial but google gave me pretty much nothing. ...Well it redirected me to this topic actually.
From: KanzarisKelshen | Posted: 9/20/2011 8:18:39 PM | #031 Just a note to clarify for everyone: the Host does have Free Will and he can do his own thing. The Audience isn't a tangible being that forcibly compels him to do stuff, he just talks to them directly and sets things up to entertain them.
I'm the audience. I like murder mysteries. He sets up a murder mystery. Neuro solves it and eats his soul. GOOD GAME SIR.
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From: Haguile | #033 Out of curiosity where the hell can we read up on this "The Host"? It says he's from a web serial but google gave me pretty much nothing. ...Well it redirected me to this topic actually.
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I'm the audience. I like murder mysteries. He sets up a murder mystery. Neuro solves it and eats his soul. GOOD GAME SIR.
I can send it to you if you'd like. Gimme a second...
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neuro is not interesting enough for him to lose to, no. there's nothing funny about him and there's a billion anime/manga characters anyway. if neuro was something like a smurf okay sure, but this guy? no thanks.
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From: Haguile | #027 Question, is his audience hax something he tries to hide or is it well known?
He's the quintessential cryptic man. He'd probably greet Neuro with "Ohhhhh, so you're the devil detective from the underworld who grows less powerful with the passage of time on earth, has access to seven hundred, seventy-seven tools..." and so on, giving the Devil Detective his complete biography to unnerve him. Then if he felt like it would entertain The Audience more to see him lose he'd go down like a feather. If he felt like winning he'd go "And since I know all your secrets...I have power over you now. Ta-ta!", and kill Neuro with his own trick.
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From: Wanglicious | #037 neuro is not interesting enough for him to lose to, no. there's nothing funny about him and there's a billion anime/manga characters anyway. if neuro was something like a smurf okay sure, but this guy? no thanks.
This is more or less the thoughts I had when I said The Host would win, as a matter of fact. There's four different characters in this division where the argument of The Host jobbing would make more sense. With Neuro not so much, because he's so similar to the Abstracts the Host uses as pawns for a dread game.
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similar, not similar, i just see the guy as more boring than enjoyable overall. like when's the last time you met a guy who solves murder mysteries for a hobby and he has a fun, interesting, or desirable personality?
now, watching him lose would be fun. but win? to a guy who basically tries to win at puzzles? where's the fun in that. hell, it'd be a mystery that even neuro couldn't solve as to why nothing's workin' out. even he'd have fun losing the match!
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From: Wanglicious | #040 similar, not similar, i just see the guy as more boring than enjoyable overall. like when's the last time you met a guy who solves murder mysteries for a hobby and he has a fun, interesting, or desirable personality?
now, watching him lose would be fun. but win? to a guy who basically tries to win at puzzles? where's the fun in that. hell, it'd be a mystery that even neuro couldn't solve as to why nothing's workin' out. even he'd have fun losing the match!
True. What I meant is that The Audience who knows The Host would probably see this as a repeat. There were no supernatural detectives in CC, but there were a bunch of supernatural sadists and some normal ones who were rather similar. Hence the comment - more of the same.
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well, we've had neuro a few times in matches and he is a repeat. he's won, he's lost, he's won and lost at the same time in a match more or less. just no fun.
'sides, when you've got half the guys you do in this contest, host don't look that bad. <__<;
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Wanglicious posted... 'sides, when you've got half the guys you do in this contest, host don't look that bad. <__<;
No, not really. He's probably the very worst of the lot.
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From: Wanglicious | #043 well, we've had neuro a few times in matches and he is a repeat. he's won, he's lost, he's won and lost at the same time in a match more or less. just no fun.
'sides, when you've got half the guys you do in this contest, host don't look that bad. <__<;
Tempted to just post the way he battled the other reality warper here for kicks.
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Wanglicious posted... and despite being the worst of the lot, he still doesn't look that bad to what else is in there. have you seen it.
Yes I have.
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From: Wanglicious | #046 and despite being the worst of the lot, he still doesn't look that bad to what else is in there. have you seen it.
Mostly because he's funnier. I'm pretty sure he's stronger and would clean the clocks of guys like Sarda and Darsh (and be cheered while doing so), before losing to, like...Seiya or something.
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KanzarisKelshen posted... From: Wanglicious | #046 and despite being the worst of the lot, he still doesn't look that bad to what else is in there. have you seen it. Mostly because he's funnier. I'm pretty sure he's stronger and would clean the clocks of guys like Sarda and Darsh (and be cheered while doing so), before losing to, like...Seiya or something.
Honestly not trying to be a grump, but I don't find anything about him funny.
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