Board 8 > yeah, I think it's time to stop doing GameFAQs contests

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ZFS
12/17/11 10:11:00 PM
#151:


Zelda winning doesn't bother me!

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Ngamer64
12/17/11 10:12:00 PM
#152:


This Skyrim doubt is baffling.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507

It pounded (the unbeatable unstoppable stop running Contests forever) Zelda in that anticipation poll, got fantastic reviews, sold incredibly well, and has been the #1/2/3 FAQ on the site ever since day one. Despite, again, having to compete with a new Zelda game that sold more copies in the first week than any Zelda game in the past.

What's not to like?

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FateStayAlbion
12/17/11 10:13:00 PM
#153:


I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them go after this year. They don't even draw votes anymore... regular PotD in the month before this contest generally averaged like 50-60k. So if they aren't drawing extra votes in, why should Cnet bother getting prizes and doing all the work to make these contests?

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StealThisSheen
12/17/11 10:13:00 PM
#154:


Ngamer64 posted...
This Skyrim doubt is baffling.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507

It pounded (the unbeatable unstoppable stop running Contests forever) Zelda in that anticipation poll, got fantastic reviews, sold incredibly well, and has been the #1/2/3 FAQ on the site ever since day one. Despite, again, having to compete with a new Zelda game that sold more copies in the first week than any Zelda game in the past.

What's not to like?



Well, I'd sashadkdahdbhjdfkjhqkhbaskjc@!#!@%$^@RVsdnasnd

Get it

That's my post glitching.



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FateStayAlbion
12/17/11 10:14:00 PM
#155:


Ngamer64 posted...
This Skyrim doubt is baffling.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507

It pounded (the unbeatable unstoppable stop running Contests forever) Zelda in that anticipation poll, got fantastic reviews, sold incredibly well, and has been the #1/2/3 FAQ on the site ever since day one. Despite, again, having to compete with a new Zelda game that sold more copies in the first week than any Zelda game in the past.

What's not to like?


Lets see it in the Goty polls before we say anything too definite. After todays match, I'm not even sure if it beats Skyward Sword.

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FashnQueenEtna
12/17/11 10:14:00 PM
#156:


I'm not sure, but a lot of it might have to do with the Wii effect. not to take anythign away from skyrim.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:14:00 PM
#157:


What's not to like?

Anticipation =/ nostalgia

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ZFS
12/17/11 10:14:00 PM
#158:


Also, yeah, I doubt SS beats Skyrim regardless. People love Skyrim, reviewers love Skyrim, it shipped something like 10 million copies already, it's on the PS3 and 360 and PC, it's already beat Skyward Sword twice. Between the two, I'd want SS to win, but there's not one reason for that result to flip.

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Eternal_Debate
12/17/11 10:14:00 PM
#159:


Needs a losers bracket next time. Lot harder to predict. Probably not very interesting though.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:15:00 PM
#160:


From: Ngamer64 | #152
This Skyrim doubt is baffling.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507

It pounded (the unbeatable unstoppable stop running Contests forever) Zelda in that anticipation poll, got fantastic reviews, sold incredibly well, and has been the #1/2/3 FAQ on the site ever since day one. Despite, again, having to compete with a new Zelda game that sold more copies in the first week than any Zelda game in the past.

What's not to like?


We're discussing Skyrim's potential to win a Games Contest.

That poll says nothing about that.

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ZFS
12/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#161:


Oh, I thought Ngamer was referring to Yoblazer's post!

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xp1337
12/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#162:


From: ZFS | #151
Zelda winning doesn't bother me!

It doesn't bother me either.

However, since it seems to cause a cloud to descend on half the board every time it happens lately, I'm fine with taking Link out.

Unless we have All Fictional. Then we have to keep Link in. And I'd fully expect to watch Link to win that too.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#163:


Oh, maybe he was.

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StealThisSheen
12/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#164:


ZFS posted...
Also, yeah, I doubt SS beats Skyrim regardless. People love Skyrim, reviewers love Skyrim, it shipped something like 10 million copies already, it's on the PS3 and 360 and PC, it's already beat Skyward Sword twice. Between the two, I'd want SS to win, but there's not one reason for that result to flip.


Didn't Uncharted 3 like, not even sell 1/4th of what it shipped when Sony was going all "Hells yeah we shipped 3 mil!"



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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:18:00 PM
#165:


Also, this site's pretty clearly tired of Link/Cloud. The vote totals for this match are terrible (even by current standards), and they were bad last year, too.

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:18:00 PM
#166:


SmartMuffin is trashing Skyrim, which pretty much proves Skyrim is awesome.

And NG is spot-on here. That game utterly destroyed Skyward Sword in the anticipation poll and could potentially cause damage, but people doubt it because Nintendo 8 is a hivemind that whines about the fruits of its labor. If you don't want Nintendo winning every contest, stop pardoning every idiotic decision they make.

Basically, people are virgins and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night than whine about Link winning a character poll.

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TheCodeisBosco
12/17/11 10:18:00 PM
#167:


First off: damn, this thread is depressing.

Anyway, I can't lie: I'm also kind of worried about the future of these contests. I don't think they should end - that's definitely not the case - but I could see this being disheartening for the higher-ups at GameFAQs, and by extension, CNET. Y'all might remember that it took a while for Bacon to get approval for this contest from CNET; and that was right after we had a contest that was significantly more popular than this one. It's going to be even harder for Bacon to get the ball rolling next time.

Especially since there's good reason to think that the votals will be even lower next time. Bear in mind: this has been an absolutely huge season for video games. Skyrim is one of the most heavily hyped games ever made, a new Zelda just came out, and games such as Uncharted 3, Super Mario 3D Land, Arkham City and Call of Duty 3 just came out as well. And yet, these matches are getting 50k votes. Just imagine how bad the votals would be if this contest was going on during a dry spell.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:18:00 PM
#168:


From: UItimaterializer | #165
Basically, people are virgins and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night than whine about Link winning a character poll.


And here you are right with us.

Seriously, stop that nonsense.

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Biolizard28
12/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#169:


Haven't read the topic yet, but I think we should strongly consider piggybacking off of Gamespot's contests. They get plenty of traffic, or at least more than we do, and I think it would be an easy enough arrangement to make. Their traffic with our vote policing would make for a good contest, if you ask me.

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#170:


Skyrim exceeds the hype, just FYI. Every other game is a joke, Skyrim is the punchline.

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ZFS
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#171:


Sony shipped 3 million worldwide, it sold 700k in the U.S.

In any case, Skyrim already thrashed Skyward Sword in sales in North America and Europe, so there's not much room for debate there. It's not an important point there, anyway, just one to reinforce that it's big.

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VeryInsane
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#172:


I'd probably say Skyrim is at FO3 strength at worst (Given how all Bethesda games have really similar fanbases, and everyone seems to agree that it is far better then Oblivion), and given that it did over 45% on Brawl of all things, I could easily see Skyrim making up the percentage difference and go toe to toe against some of the heavy hitters of the GOTD contest.

Now, LTTP or RBY or SMB3? Those are entirely other beasts and I don't see Skyrim touching them.

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Lopen
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#173:


I honestly can't see why Bacon thought this contest was a good idea. I was sour on the concept from its birth, before we even got a bracket. I'm not really sure why he thought people would be interested in this.

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Ngamer64
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#174:


Well I agree, Skyrim shouldn't be a REAL contender to win the whole thing (I'd put it back in that RE4 tier like I said), but I was talking more about people saying stuff like

SmartMuffin posted...
Dude Skyrim would get destroyed by pretty much everything.

Even if it loses to LttP/RBY/Melee, I don't think anything "destroys" it. Should hold up well, like Fallout did on Brawl.

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Surskit
12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#175:


Man, it's really sad to see the board so demoralized. I can't say I disagree with the notion that contests are well past their prime, but I don't know. I had a ton of fun with both last contests. Our view might be too tainted by the current events. :/

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:21:00 PM
#176:


From: Lopen | #173
I honestly can't see why Bacon thought this contest was a good idea. I was sour on the concept from its birth, before we even got a bracket. I'm not really sure why he thought people would be interested in this.


I can only assume he figured this was the one format in which Zelda/FF7 might not dominate. Guess again!

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:21:00 PM
#177:


From: Lopen | #173
I honestly can't see why Bacon thought this contest was a good idea. I was sour on the concept from its birth, before we even got a bracket. I'm not really sure why he thought people would be interested in this.


Yeah, I don't really get this one either. Sometimes I feel like Bacon tries too hard to keep the contests "fresh," and we occasionally end up with stuff like this.

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MarvelousGerbil
12/17/11 10:21:00 PM
#178:


Ngamer64 posted...
This Skyrim doubt is baffling.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4507

It pounded (the unbeatable unstoppable stop running Contests forever) Zelda in that anticipation poll, got fantastic reviews, sold incredibly well, and has been the #1/2/3 FAQ on the site ever since day one. Despite, again, having to compete with a new Zelda game that sold more copies in the first week than any Zelda game in the past.

What's not to like?


Literally saying Skyward Sword is indicative of any Zelda game.

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StealThisSheen
12/17/11 10:21:00 PM
#179:


ZFS posted...
Sony shipped 3 million worldwide, it sold 700k in the U.S.

In any case, Skyrim already thrashed Skyward Sword in sales in North America and Europe, so there's not much room for debate there. It's not an important point there, anyway, just one to reinforce that it's big.



Oh, I wasn't saying anything about SS. I was just saying that using the figure for shipped isn't as effective, usually..



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FashnQueenEtna
12/17/11 10:22:00 PM
#180:


Bacon wasn't even the one with the idea. yeah he pulled the trigger but some user(s) nominated the idea.

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:23:00 PM
#181:


From: LeonhartFour | #168
And here you are right with us.

Seriously, stop that nonsense.


After a healthy afternoon and evening of Christmas partying, then doing awesome non-virgin things when I got back home.

Check mafia timelines, I didn't get on the site today until 11:18 and didn't actually start paying attention until well after midnight. Unlike most people on this board, I haven't spent my entire Saturday here.

The virgin excuse applies. It's hilarious to get laid and then come on this board and read the things people whine about, it really is.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:23:00 PM
#182:


I can't imagine it was actually a popular suggestion though. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Lopen
12/17/11 10:23:00 PM
#183:


From: SmartMuffin | #176
I can only assume he figured this was the one format in which Zelda/FF7 might not dominate. Guess again!


This is a fine reason from the mind of someone who wants "interesting results"

But for a businessman trying to draw site traffic? Zelda/FF7 not winning would not drum up interest from casual voters. I don't think so.

I'm inclined to think Leon has the real reason.

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#184:


From: FashnQueenEtna | #180
Bacon wasn't even the one with the idea. yeah he pulled the trigger but some user(s) nominated the idea.


Truth.

I hope the geniuses who thought tag teams were a good idea never breed.

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SmartMuffin
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#185:


Also, I find it absolutely hilarious that you guys devote hours and hours and hours to analyzing these contests, then complain that they're too predictable.

These things aren't that predictable for me! You know why? Because I don't give a flying crap and I don't really pay attention to them.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#186:


From: UItimaterializer | #181
Unlike most people on this board, I haven't spent my entire Saturday here.


And neither have I.

Stop making bad correlations.

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Lopen
12/17/11 10:25:00 PM
#187:


From: UItimaterializer | #181
Check mafia timelines, I didn't get on the site today until 11:18 and didn't actually start paying attention until well after midnight. Unlike most people on this board, I haven't spent my entire Saturday here.

The virgin excuse applies. It's hilarious to get laid and then come on this board and read the things people whine about, it really is.


Speaking as one of the best mafia players on the board (when I bother, cause I don't really have the time for it!), healthy non-virgins probably shouldn't have the time to play mafia.

Just sayin.

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xp1337
12/17/11 10:25:00 PM
#188:


From: Lopen | #173
I honestly can't see why Bacon thought this contest was a good idea. I was sour on the concept from its birth, before we even got a bracket. I'm not really sure why he thought people would be interested in this.

Honestly, he might have been hoping he could get Link to lose. If so, he should have known better. We've gotten almost exclusively gimmick contests all the way back since 2006 and the only one that stopped Link was 2007 on a fluke (I say fluke because 2008 proved that the rally couldn't reliably stop Link) and with the help of the 4way format.

If that's Bacon's goal, the All Fictional crowd might be in luck because I could certainly see Bacon throwing his hands up and thinking surely that would do it.

I think he's wrong again in that case and he's better off just taking Link out if he wants that, but whatever.

This contest was an obvious disaster from the beginning though, yes.

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TheCodeisBosco
12/17/11 10:26:00 PM
#189:


UItimaterializer posted...
Skyrim exceeds the hype, just FYI. Every other game is a joke, Skyrim is the punchline.

Honestly man, I believe you. I'm hoping to get my 360 fixed soon, and when I do, I'm looking forward to trying it out.

But man, I can't lie: all those little 12-year-olds screaming "FUS RO DAH" and "I TOOK AN ARROW TO THE KNEE LOL" almost make me want to hate the game right off the bat, even though I haven't played it yet! Is it just me, or is this game's fanbase bloody awful? >_>

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Ngamer64
12/17/11 10:27:00 PM
#190:


MarvelousGerbil posted...
Literally saying Skyward Sword is indicative of any Zelda game.

Uhhh.... this whole topic has been people complaining that "remove Ocarina, Majora wins. remove Majora, LttP or RBY or something else Nintendo wins".

So when Skyrim easily trumps the biggest-selling Zelda game so far, that a huge chunk of this site has been playing for the last month... yes, I do think that's indicative of some strength!

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:28:00 PM
#191:


Hey Ngamer, name all the Zelda games you take Skyward Sword to beat in a Games Contest right now.

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Biolizard28
12/17/11 10:28:00 PM
#192:


Portal children are worse, in my opinion.

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Lopen
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#193:


Then again maybe the punchline isn't that you're no better than people on the board who post too much, but rather are bad at mafia.

I'll take that one too !!

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swirIdude
12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#194:


From: UItimaterializer | #165
Basically, people are virgins and have nothing better to do on a Saturday night than whine about Link winning a character poll.


Remember when you said you didn't troll anymore?

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:32:00 PM
#195:


From: Lopen | #187
Speaking as one of the best mafia players on the board (when I bother, cause I don't really have the time for it!), healthy non-virgins probably shouldn't have the time to play mafia.

Just sayin.


It's called having time management skills, stop making dumb points that you know full well are dumb points mister godtier mafia player.

Unless you're one of those all work no play types, in which case lol you for being wired like an old man in your 20s!

From: SmartMuffin | #185
Also, I find it absolutely hilarious that you guys devote hours and hours and hours to analyzing these contests, then complain that they're too predictable.

These things aren't that predictable for me! You know why? Because I don't give a flying crap and I don't really pay attention to them.


Then why even post here on the contest board?

You can leave, seriously, it's not like you'll be missed by anyone other than a few bored trolls. You make all true conservatives look terrible with your bigotry (like girls who cry rape being worse than rapists, worst take of all time) and you should leave me/SephyG/SubDeity to do the heavy lifting.

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TheCodeisBosco
12/17/11 10:32:00 PM
#196:


Biolizard28 posted...
Portal children are worse, in my opinion.

Eh, not sure about that. I've never seen a dead horse get beaten the way "Arrow to the Knee" has.

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ExThaNemesis
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#197:


Ulti's a conundrum at mafia. I can read him perfectly but it seems like almost no one else can.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#198:


From: TheCodeisBosco | #196
Eh, not sure about that. I've never seen a dead horse get beaten the way "Arrow to the Knee" has.


"The cake is a lie" is close.

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Ngamer64
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#199:


Well I'd take Skyward over Twilight Princess currently, which means it should also beat Wind Waker and Zelda 1 and everything else below that range.

Probably still well behind LttP, and possibly Majora... which is why I'm saying that even though Skyrim > Skyward, it's still back in that FFX range just behind the top tier.

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UItimaterializer
12/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#200:


From: swirIdude | #194
Remember when you said you didn't troll anymore?


Stating a fact =/= trolling

Most people on this board are virgins with nothing better to do on a Saturday night than whine about Link winning a poll.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3990

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