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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 6:04:00 PM
#351:


Wow. What an awful precedent to set. So much for edgy and attitude and whatever. Now all heels are going to be wusses because they'll be scared for their jobs.

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 6:09:00 PM
#352:


Well it wasn't something WWE necessarily WANTED to do. Apparently they had the authorities on their ass about it and promised to handle it in-house so as to not have Jericho get arrested.

It's not just Brazil though. JBL got in big trouble with the authorities in Germany for goose-stepping during a match, and Finlay got fired for booking Miz to interrupt the national anthem here in America because the National Guard threw a fit and they're a big sponsor.

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Wanglicious
05/30/12 6:09:00 PM
#353:


jericho got tied up in the system there.

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 6:11:00 PM
#354:


Any country that would arrest you for disrespecting a flag is a fascist state that the WWE should refuse to tour in.

The Nazi thing in Germany is a LITTLE bit different, and I think we all agreed that the Finlay thing was dumb as hell.

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 6:11:00 PM
#355:


There's another good example!

$$$ > Freedom of expression in WWE's list of priorities.

Which to be fair I'm sure their stockholders approve of.

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 6:12:00 PM
#356:


Pretty sure the McMahon family owns like 50% of the stock <_<

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 6:14:00 PM
#357:


I thought it was more like 90% <_<

WWE can hold a grudge though. Maybe they won't go back.

Does anyone know if they've ever been back to Denver after that incident in 2009?

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 6:18:00 PM
#358:


Regardless, I'm pretty sure this incident probably killed any pipe dream in the near future of Wrestlemania in Rio, one of the few exotic locales they could do WM in that's still in a reasonable time zone.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/30/12 6:20:00 PM
#359:


Tensai failed to impress WWE officials in his pinfall victory over John Cena on the April 16 Raw SuperShow in London, England and was deemed "a flop" as a result. He was initially pegged to face Cena at the company's Over the Limit and No Way Out pay-per-view events but his poor showing in the main event match led to his push being curtailed and Big Show taking his place. WWE also canceled plans for summer live events to be headlined by Tensai and John Laurinaitis vs. Cena, instead replacing the former tattoo artist with Big Show.

Though Tensai has yet to be defeated on television, he suffered his first pinfall loss before a WWE crowd in a dark match following Monday's Raw SuperShow—to Cena. He is being largely relegated to WWE Superstars while his character is retooled. He has already undergone tweaks as he appeared sans robe, competed more aggressively and had his named modified within the past two weeks. More changes could be in the works as there was talk this past week of additional modifications.

Source: lordsofpain


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JaKyL25
05/30/12 6:21:00 PM
#360:


Called it

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 6:34:00 PM
#361:


I thought it was more like 90% <_<

Can't imagine it's that high. At that point you might as well just go private.

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MrGreenonion
05/30/12 7:11:00 PM
#362:


http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2012/0530/553054/randy-orton/

I thought for sure that this was Orton's second "second violation", but apparently not. Despite having been suspended THREE times in the past for drug-related stuff, only ONE of those was technically a Wellness Policy violation.

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05/30/12 7:52:00 PM
#363:


so I look up DumbKellyKelly on twitter and it's full of BarberShopWindow retweets

is the account over?

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/30/12 9:16:00 PM
#364:


Wow, Kaitlyn.

Whatever she's doing, she has to change it because she does not look good.

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Lopen
05/30/12 9:21:00 PM
#365:


I'm not sure where they get their "Tensai failed to impress" statistic from exactly. Like who are the judges, here?

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/30/12 9:29:00 PM
#366:


Lopen posted...
I'm not sure where they get their "Tensai failed to impress" statistic from exactly. Like who are the judges, here?


Probably from the fact that he literally gets no reaction. And then when people do bother to make any noise during his matches, it's to chant "Aaaaaaalbert". He's the most boring thing to watch live, I promise you.

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 9:31:00 PM
#367:


I dunno, I thought he was fine. I mean, he's a fat tattooed white guy pretending to be Japanese. NOBODY could make that gimmick a fan-favorite.

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 9:32:00 PM
#368:


From: Lopen | #365
I'm not sure where they get their "Tensai failed to impress" statistic from exactly. Like who are the judges, here?


TNA should have a segment where Ric Flair and Al Snow judge the success of WWE talent <_<

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Lopen
05/30/12 9:33:00 PM
#369:


I thought he got enough reaction considering he was a heel

But yeah his pace was probably a bit too methodical to sell his DESTRUCTIVE CHARACTER I guess

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 9:34:00 PM
#370:


I don't recall him ever getting a reaction period. <_<

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Lopen
05/30/12 9:36:00 PM
#371:


He got some boos dammit.

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 9:38:00 PM
#372:


It really is kind of strange for WWE to be so quick-moving on a failed experiment though. Refreshing in a way!

And then in the same breath, Sin Cara returns this week with the same goofy lights that everyone hates. <_<

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 9:39:00 PM
#373:


Honestly, I think it was way too early to call it failed. Not only is it an impossible gimmick, they immediately aligned him with Laurinitis who absolutely everyone hates.

He was given no opportunity to succeed.

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 9:41:00 PM
#374:


They're not giving up on the wrestler though, just the gimmick as it was originally conceived. A gimmick you yourself are saying is impossible. <_<

And I think Laurinaitis absolutely gets the right kind of heat.

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SmartMuffin
05/30/12 9:42:00 PM
#375:


HE might, but a generic heel flunky who has nothing to do with his personality or his agenda most certainly wouldn't.

Like, aligning Otunga and Eve with him makes sense and works, but Tensai absolutely did not.

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TheRock1525
05/30/12 9:43:00 PM
#376:


Man, why drop the robes? I actually liked that look.

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 9:45:00 PM
#377:


Bryan had to give up his robe too!

Maybe their stance is "only one robed wrestler at a time" and that robe is currently being worn by Damien Sandow.

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TheRock1525
05/30/12 9:58:00 PM
#378:


Who cares about the robe, he had an awesome jacket instead!

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GTM
05/30/12 10:10:00 PM
#379:


Why drop the lord as well?

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JaKyL25
05/30/12 10:16:00 PM
#380:


Someone in the chat theorized that it might offend fundamentalist religious groups maybe?

That's the best guess I've heard.

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DSAutoResponder
05/31/12 12:38:00 AM
#381:


http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9EAD0F798D5DA8D6&feature=plcp

41 2 hour videos documenting the four horsemen from 85-88

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Wanglicious
05/31/12 1:48:00 AM
#382:


good lord, jillian's mug shot.

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XIII_rocks
05/31/12 3:31:00 AM
#383:


GTM posted...
so I look up DumbKellyKelly on twitter and it's full of BarberShopWindow retweets

is the account over?


Yeah I unfollowed a while back because of all that advertising

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Red Shifter
05/31/12 3:36:00 AM
#384:


albert almost ran me over when i was walking home from smackdown one time

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JaKyL25
05/31/12 10:09:00 AM
#385:


http://twtpoll.com/e4mij2

TNA's poll for who should get tonight's TV Title shot LIVE vs. Devon.

Because it worked so well for Desmond Wolfe.

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muddersmilk
05/31/12 1:19:00 PM
#386:


Jakyl25 posted...
in b4 two new Sin Caras appear, one with a blinking jacket and the other with ridiculous tattoos across his arms


I would die laughing and marking out if that happened.

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XIII_rocks
05/31/12 3:13:00 PM
#387:


wwe.com has a poll right now: long reign vs. multiple wins. I think it's time we sorted this out.

For me, both are important, as well as the total number of defences.

I want to come up with an appropriate formula for how good a Champion someone is overall - some kind of formula that takes into account days as champion, number of total defences, and number of reigns. So rather than saying "Punk is a 5-time world champ" or "he's held the WWE title for six months", I want a proper system that takes both of those things, as well as taking into account how many times he's defended it. That said, I don't think losing by DQ or countout would count towards a "successful defence", so there's that.

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XIII_rocks
05/31/12 3:18:00 PM
#388:


Wrestler X is a two-time world champion
Wrestler X has held a world title for 200 days
Wrestler X has successfully defended world titles 14 times

2R
14D
200D

200x2x14=5600

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Kinglicious
05/31/12 3:34:00 PM
#389:


Long reign and without any questions. Multiple titles can be done cheaply, see edge for more details.

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edwardsdv
05/31/12 3:38:00 PM
#390:


From: Jakyl25 | #385
http://twtpoll.com/e4mij2

TNA's poll for who should get tonight's TV Title shot LIVE vs. Devon.

Because it worked so well for Desmond Wolfe.

I did my part and voted for Robbie E.

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voltch
05/31/12 3:40:00 PM
#391:


From: edwardsdv | #390
From: Jakyl25 | #385
http://twtpoll.com/e4mij2

TNA's poll for who should get tonight's TV Title shot LIVE vs. Devon.

Because it worked so well for Desmond Wolfe.

I did my part and voted for Robbie E.



Same, now I demand a TNA chat for tonight.

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ninkendo
05/31/12 3:53:00 PM
#392:


I saw just out picking up some Hungry Howies

I swear I saw Teddy Long crossing the street on a bike


everyone is Teddy Long

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Rad Link 5
05/31/12 3:53:00 PM
#393:


I was wondering this earlier. When he breaks something, how does CM Punk have surgery? Does sleeping gas not conflict with his straight edge beliefs?

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JaKyL25
05/31/12 4:56:00 PM
#394:


AIM Chat: B8watchesImpact

Punk isn't hardline straight edge. He will use prescription drugs as prescribed. I assume anesthetic would also qualify.

It's a lifestyle choice, not saying "I believe in being drug free SO MUCH that it will be a detriment to my health in the event a doctor tells me I need them."

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SmartMuffin
05/31/12 5:03:00 PM
#395:


Well, doesn't he claim to not even take advil for headaches? Even though that's what doctors would obviously recommend.

I mean, having say, novacaine for dental work is in no way necessary for your health...

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JaKyL25
05/31/12 5:14:00 PM
#396:


"recommended" vs. "necessary" is probably the line to draw.

You pretty much NEED to be out during a surgery because if you flinch you could really f*** things up.

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05/31/12 5:17:00 PM
#397:


XIII_rocks posted...
Wrestler X is a two-time world champion
Wrestler X has held a world title for 200 days
Wrestler X has successfully defended world titles 14 times

2R
14D
200D

200x2x14=5600

Is that too simple? Do they deserve the same weighting?


I think 'successful defenses' would be hard to find complete information for, especially for old school guys. I'm assuming that one of the reasons you want a system is to compare guys like Sammartino and Backlund to guys like Orton and Edge. I say try the first two, and see how it goes.

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SmartMuffin
05/31/12 5:21:00 PM
#398:


You pretty much NEED to be out during a surgery because if you flinch you could really f*** things up.

Oh come on, they amputated limbs in the civil war by holding you down and giving you something to bite on!

Anyway, we all know that the only acceptable measurement is "total days as world champion." Holding a secondary world title counts for half a day for each day held.

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JaKyL25
05/31/12 5:22:00 PM
#399:


Why does TNA have to hurt so much sometimes.

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ninkendo
05/31/12 5:25:00 PM
#400:


okay so I turned it on and saw whatever match Hogan was setting up

don't know if I want to watch more, but this Brooke Hogan thing they showed right before going to commercial might make me stick around

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