Poll of the Day > Jfc, am i just a giant joke? I can never get jobs to call me back

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PK_Spam
09/30/18 1:27:32 PM
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Ive tried since May 2017 to get a decent job anywhere, but all the professional places I apply to, be it here in Florida, or New York, or Los Angeles, never call me back. Even when I give them calls to make sure my resume went through, since that works sometimes to secure me an interview.

But in the year and a half Ive been here, the only jobs Ive gotten are little temp positions, moving jobs, or Walmart, where Im currently at. My resume is pretty good, I have 5 years of office work under my belt, and some good internship experience. I have a college degree and everything too. Why cant a single entry level office position call me back and keep me?

I dunno, I have $1500 in my bank account after rent and my sisters birthday present. And with only 2 months left on my lease, Im not going to make enough money to do what I want. Im not even gonna have access to my car should I choose to move on my own.

Idk why Im even posting this shit here. Life sucks and I wish it would hurry and end, or get to the good part. Im just really bummed that Im 24 and havent even taken the first real step in the direction I want to.
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ASlaveObeys
09/30/18 1:32:39 PM
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What kind of job are you looking for?
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 1:34:40 PM
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Literally any office job at all. But I tried for over a year in Florida and nobody ever got back to me.

Now its too late. My lease is up and Im going to have to move back home to Pennsylvania, but there are NO jobs within an hour and a half of my house there.
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Chewster
09/30/18 1:51:41 PM
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Sounds like me, but I'm 27. I wish I was still 24 at this point. Never would've hoped it would even get to that age when I first started looking for a better job around age 22, but here we are.

I don't really know that applying to non-local areas is doing much good though. I guess it works for some people but the way I look at it is you're just adding another obstacle to your candidacy. Of course it depends on your field and how big the market is where you're at, but I know for me that if I can't even get a software job in the Denver/Boulder area I have no hope anywhere else.

Also I thought employers disliked when you called them about your resume but if it's worked for you then maybe not.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 2:21:50 PM
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Apply at an insurance company doing claims.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 2:32:23 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Apply at an insurance company doing claims.

But where? There arent any near my hometown.
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FuriousFox
09/30/18 2:47:42 PM
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What's your degree in?
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Jen0125
09/30/18 2:50:00 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Apply at an insurance company doing claims.

But where? There arent any near my hometown.


Yes there are. Just Google it. There are insurance jobs everywhere.
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Blighboy
09/30/18 2:54:47 PM
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If you've been basically unemployed for a year and a half that might look bad.
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Doctor Foxx
09/30/18 3:18:34 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Apply at an insurance company doing claims.

But where? There arent any near my hometown.


Yes there are. Just Google it. There are insurance jobs everywhere.

I just did and I got over a hundred results. Thanks Jen. I'm looking for work and that would do it for me, looks like I'm very qualified. Going to apply to these myself
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Dikitain
09/30/18 3:39:17 PM
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Chewster posted...
Also I thought employers disliked when you called them about your resume but if it's worked for you then maybe not.


That is a pretty basic rule: Always follow-up, it shows them you are interested. Obviously don't hound them, but just calling them to follow up a few days after you submit your resume is always a good thing.

Anyways, for TC: It is possible the work you want just isn't there. Plus you are still young, I wouldn't start worrying for another 3-4 years. Do what you need to do to get into the door, even if it means taking another internship.
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Zeus
09/30/18 3:43:01 PM
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If you're not even getting interviews, you're probably not applying at enough places. Otherwise the problem could be your major, your experience, or the fact you haven't worked professionally for a few years.

I'm not sure what part of Florida you're in, which could also affect it. However, if you have staffing agencies in the area, you *should* be able to get something.

PK_Spam posted...
Why cant a single entry level office position call me back and keep me?


Well, when you have 5 years of office experience, the entry level jobs are going to view you as being overqualified. Likewise, if you don't have the right experience, you aren't going to get the better office jobs for people with experience.

PK_Spam posted...
Now its too late. My lease is up and Im going to have to move back home to Pennsylvania, but there are NO jobs within an hour and a half of my house there.


It's Penn, I'm not sure there are jobs anywhere =p

Doctor Foxx posted...
I just did and I got over a hundred results. Thanks Jen. I'm looking for work and that would do it for me, looks like I'm very qualified. Going to apply to these myself


Are claims jobs actually that common? Most of the insurance guys I know are independent agents who act as salesmen and afaik handle their own claims.
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mastermix3000
09/30/18 4:05:47 PM
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Maaaaaaaaaan I feel you

Im 25, cant afford my own place, have this car and all these loans

Moved back in with my mother. Just really thankful I have a place to live.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 4:10:47 PM
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Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.
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LinkPizza
09/30/18 4:21:48 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.

You don't always need to have a meaningful job. You just need the job to make money. You can do others things with that money like paying bills and shit to live. And then use the rest to do things you like. Like whatever you do to have fun with friends and family. Not everyone is going to get a job that's meaningful or that they like. But you still need to make money to live. Do something meaningful with you life outside of you job if you still feel you need to.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 5:45:23 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Apply at an insurance company doing claims.

But where? There arent any near my hometown.


Yes there are. Just Google it. There are insurance jobs everywhere.

I just did and I got over a hundred results. Thanks Jen. I'm looking for work and that would do it for me, looks like I'm very qualified. Going to apply to these myself


You're welcome. :) Good luck.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 5:46:24 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 6:18:46 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.
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Chewster
09/30/18 6:21:59 PM
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I'm not really one to knock somebody for having ambitions but that was your plan? Move somewhere with an outrageous COL and hope you can cut it in an industry that eats people alive?
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SmokeMassTree
09/30/18 6:25:03 PM
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I mean you did go to penn state and get a shitty degree so
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Chewster
09/30/18 6:25:08 PM
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Sorry, I should be a little nicer. It's just the way you worded that... it makes me think you didn't really think this through. Like it sounds like you think moving there is going to be your big obstacle, not staying there. If you can't get a boring office job what makes you think you're going to get a TV/film job?
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funkyfritter
09/30/18 6:33:49 PM
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Yeah, stay far away from LA. You're going to have the same problems there, only orders of magnitude worse.
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CacciatoPart3
09/30/18 6:34:04 PM
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Dont all those people move to LA and bus tables anyway?
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Jen0125
09/30/18 6:53:12 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.
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chaosbowser
09/30/18 6:55:07 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.


I've been telling him for a long time that he should go back to his master's program to get his teaching degree so that he can at least have a stable job to achieve his dream with. He's only thinking in the immediate short term and its actually costing him more time than if he'd just finished his master's.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:04:23 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.

Thats what I wanted to do, but now I cant do that.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 7:05:04 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.

Thats what I wanted to do, but now I cant do that.


Yes you can. You just want to do it in an unrealistic timeline.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 7:06:19 PM
#28:


chaosbowser posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.


I've been telling him for a long time that he should go back to his master's program to get his teaching degree so that he can at least have a stable job to achieve his dream with. He's only thinking in the immediate short term and its actually costing him more time than if he'd just finished his master's.


He's not going to listen. He just whines and makes excuses for everything.
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edededdy
09/30/18 7:06:27 PM
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companies dont hire dudebros
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:09:26 PM
#30:


Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.

Thats what I wanted to do, but now I cant do that.


Yes you can. You just want to do it in an unrealistic timeline.

How is me wanting to work for a year and a half before I go and do what I actually want to unrealistic.

Like I already know my degree is worthless and Im stupid for picking it. I dont need someone else telling me that
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:13:28 PM
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Its just... once in my life, I wanted to be able to make a decision on my own. And I was gonna do it. I have myself plenty of time to collect the funds so I could do it on my own and... something out of my control happens and Im going to have to put what I want on hold for another few years.

I mean, Ive been wanting to go to LA since high school. And things just keep happening to stop me.
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edededdy
09/30/18 7:15:05 PM
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then stop acting like a dudebro
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Zeus
09/30/18 7:16:37 PM
#33:


PK_Spam posted...
My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.


This guy... While it's nice to dream big, that was always going to be a long shot. Plus you were better off working dead-end jobs in LA (or the general area) while trying to make it in film/tv. You should have just skipped Florida entirely.

PK_Spam posted...
But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Not really. If you're at all serious about writing for tv or film, you can technically do that anywhere and then try to bring attention to your work once you get to another area. And keep in mind that at least some writers got their break outside LA before going there.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:17:08 PM
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Those days are long gone, dude.

I dont even have anyone who honestly likes me down here. My sister barely puts up with me, and Im currently renting a house with her.
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Jen0125
09/30/18 7:18:49 PM
#35:


PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Jen0125 posted...
PK_Spam posted...
Im honestly just so tired of everything. Whats even the point of continuing to waste time applying for shit if I dont get anything meaningful from it all.


Did you Google what I said? You can work a job for income while finding something meaningful. You're the one that decided to go to college to get a writing degree, dude.

I did, but my problem is bigger.

My original plan was to work in Florida in a dead end job until January, when Id have enough money to move away to LA, where Id work in the television/film industry and gradually meet people to develop my projects.

But now I have to put that on hold. I cant even stay in Florida an extra two weeks. I need to leave right away by the end of November. The longer I wait, the harder its going to be for me to get any sort of job in the industry I want. But I cant do any of that if Im not in LA, and I cant go there if I dont have money, and I wont have that if I have to leave early.


Your problem isn't bigger. You just think you're special. You're not special. Get a job like the rest of us while you work toward your unrealistic dream of being in the brutal industry you want.

Thats what I wanted to do, but now I cant do that.


Yes you can. You just want to do it in an unrealistic timeline.

How is me wanting to work for a year and a half before I go and do what I actually want to unrealistic.

Like I already know my degree is worthless and Im stupid for picking it. I dont need someone else telling me that


Your degree isn't worthless and stupid. I don't see how you still can't do what you want to do. Just get a fucking job and save your money. I don't understand how your age or having to move changes anything. You want to be a writer. Your age doesn't matter.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:21:43 PM
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If I want to be a writer, Ill need to work on set. Like, all the time. Thats how you make connections.

Half of my job will be me knowing important people who are willing to donate their time towards seeing if the shit I wrote is good or not.

I could write from the comfort of my home nonstop, but if I dont get anyone to look at what Ive written, I wont get anywhere. And Ive tried submitting to writing fellowships. I havent even gotten past the first round of any of them because I dont have representation or a letter of recommendation from someone in the industry. Im literally never going to be able to work in that field from across the country.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:22:44 PM
#37:


And my original plan WAS ago get a job (any job) and save my money. But now thats gone because I have to leave a place of low opportunity to a place with none. My hometown is literally an hour away from the nearest supermarket. Theres nothing for miles and milea
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Jen0125
09/30/18 7:23:16 PM
#38:


I still don't get why you can't rent a single room and wait tables in LA. When we suggested that in the FB group you said you could then backed out because of your family again. You always come up with something to get in your way on your own.
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GanglyKhan
09/30/18 7:23:57 PM
#39:


>living in a city
That's a huge financial trap right there, man. Go look for work in a smaller city (like 100,000 or less people). Don't fall for the "making it big in L.A/NY/etc" meme.

Also, your resum might be lacking. Not gonna ask you to post it, but I would comb through it and make it sound good as hell.

Grammer/spelling/formatting
One page
Detailed, one or two line descriptors. So not "desk clerk" but "Managed essential paperwork for company section's success with X amount of business partners." You have to be competitive with it.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:26:19 PM
#40:


Jen0125 posted...
I still don't get why you can't rent a single room and wait tables in LA. When we suggested that in the FB group you said you could then backed out because of your family again. You always come up with something to get in your way on your own.

Im having this problem because I wont have my car if I move there

My original plan involved doing a dead end job like waiting tables after I moved, but I cant do that right now if I dont have a car

LAs public transport is near nonexistent. And getting an Uber every single day will ruin my bank account and budget
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chaosbowser
09/30/18 7:26:42 PM
#41:


Jen0125 posted...
I still don't get why you can't rent a single room and wait tables in LA. When we suggested that in the FB group you said you could then backed out because of your family again. You always come up with something to get in your way on your own.


Well if he runs into the same problem in LA that he has run into in Florida he will be extra boned since he basically has no money saved.
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Zeus
09/30/18 7:29:02 PM
#42:


PK_Spam posted...
I mean, Ive been wanting to go to LA since high school. And things just keep happening to stop me.


And you probably could have gone there at any time. In general, people are their own greatest obstacles. Usually the biggest thing stopping anybody from doing anything is themselves. People who really want to make a go out of it will find a way. There are actors and writers who drove down there, lived in their car while finding work, and then worked shit jobs for years before having their break.

Honestly, you're not putting your all into it. Even if you saved up money, there would always be one more excuse to not go -- and, as you get older, it will get harder and harder to move out there just because you'll get financially stable somewhere else, you'll meet friends and partners, etc, and eventually you'll just settle into a life. That's why it's most popular for youths with nothing to go there.

PK_Spam posted...
Those days are long gone, dude.

I dont even have anyone who honestly likes me down here. My sister barely puts up with me, and Im currently renting a house with her.


Real talk -- If you can't build a network of friends and contacts in Florida, how do you expect to make it in LA? Obviously the places will have different kinds of people, but if you don't have the soft skills to build meaningful relationships in one place odds are that you won't be able to do it somewhere else.

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And my original plan WAS ago get a job (any job) and save my money. But now thats gone because I have to leave a place of low opportunity to a place with none. My hometown is literally an hour away from the nearest supermarket. Theres nothing for miles and milea


Is it one of those areas with packs of wild dogs? >_>

And yeah, I've been to Penn, I know that large swaths of the state are absolute shitholes. However, even the shitty places seem to have some businesses. I'm assuming your parents worked so there has to be at least some opportunity somewhere.
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:30:12 PM
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My parents were both retired after they moved to Pennsylvania, actually
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 7:31:47 PM
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If I go now, I will literally be harassed every single day by my parents until I eventually crumple and go back home. Im not good with fighting authority. Never have been. And the problem is magnified when its family, because they make me feel like Im even shittier than I know I am.
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SmokeMassTree
09/30/18 8:15:36 PM
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You should go to osu and get a real degree
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Jen0125
09/30/18 8:20:05 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I still don't get why you can't rent a single room and wait tables in LA. When we suggested that in the FB group you said you could then backed out because of your family again. You always come up with something to get in your way on your own.

Im having this problem because I wont have my car if I move there

My original plan involved doing a dead end job like waiting tables after I moved, but I cant do that right now if I dont have a car

LAs public transport is near nonexistent. And getting an Uber every single day will ruin my bank account and budget


They have busses in LA. You're making another excuse. They also have the metro. I've been there like 10 times without a car.
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RCtheWSBC
09/30/18 8:28:27 PM
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Your posts are starting to illuminate that you aren't ready to face the reality losing some aspects of privilege.

Thousands of people live and work in blue-collar jobs without a personal vehicle. It isn't an easy way to live, but it can be done.

You're a recent graduate--reach out to Penn State's career office. Hit up the college/department you earned your degree from. Utilize your networks.

Set a firm goal for the number of jobs you will apply to each day. I still can't tell what kind of jobs you're aiming for, but you may need to expand industries.
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vicedungwinsgam
09/30/18 8:32:19 PM
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sadly the answern is one, or two, of two things

1. Tc is a short man
2. Tc is an ugly man
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PK_Spam
09/30/18 8:36:13 PM
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The problem is that not having a personal vehicle will lock me out of a LOT of work. Ive been to LA atop, and the trains and busses all have really awful hours and stop running frustratingly early. If I cant be versatile in my job search because of that, I might as well already be dead in the water
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RCtheWSBC
09/30/18 8:37:23 PM
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If saving for a car is a necessity for you, then you need to double your efforts of finding a job where you live now.
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