Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Mafia Topic 5: Or as others call it Smash Brothers for Switch

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15 Player Smash!
1. Benjamin3740
2. Hombad (Corrik)
3. Doopliss_Power
4. geno4smash
5. HanOfTheNekos
6. Hbthebattle
7. htaeD (Death)
8. Lolo_Guru
9. Pendragon71037
10. ScareChan
11. Forecful_Dragon
12. Pirate_Harris (Shad)
13. Shonen_Bat
14. Terra-enforcer
15. TheSultanOfSlam

Votals
[4] Scare - Terra, Death, (Doop), Geno, Doop
[1] Death - (Scare), Ben, (Doop)
[1] Sultan - lolo
[1] lolo - hombad
[1] Doop - Han
[1] Han - Scare
[0] Pendragon - (Han)
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The harder Doopliss pushes this power format stuff, the scummier he seems IMO. There's no reason to think that scum power roles would be formatted differently from veteran power roles unless you are scum
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Ugh
I guess whatever game I was thinking of where Scare did the fakescan thing
is no longer on the logs.

At least Scare admitted to it

Scare, if this second scan is true or not.. You better clear that up sooner than later
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I will not be altering any information I have given further today. Han is my true scan. If I walk anything back feel free to lynch me immediately
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Thats good to hear
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I am gonna have to ISO red still anyway

But for now

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Doop:

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Why did you not talk about your own format here?

And Scare, are you seriously Scum 1 for 1-ing me here? You know this is a lie, so sticking to it this hard you KNOW ruins your credibility, so there's no reason to double down on this unless you are convinced you are Scum who's gonna die soon.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Doop:

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Han's claim format doesn't align with Scare's or what we've seen of Chris'.

Why did you not talk about your own format here?

I'm Vanilla duh

I kinda figured you would all be able to figure that out on your own, but apparently not.
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Han I assume my role is inconsequential so it's not a trouble to balance it around other roles.

Why would I be able to figure that out on my own?
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Tag
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That's in response to Doop.
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Scare playing mind games makes me hard to trust his scan is accurate.
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I won't give any spoilers away, ben.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for Scare to respond, but I'm pretty positive this is a Scumplay where they are making an assumption that is wrong.

geno4smash4 posted...

Han I assume my role is inconsequential so it's not a trouble to balance it around other roles.

Do you promise you're not the version of a drunk who forces players to target a player of their choice?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Scare playing mind games makes me hard to trust his scan is accurate.

Yeah no way it's accurate. He knows no one believes him so why double down on Han so hard like this? First thing that comes to mind is that he's trying to bus himself and distance himself from Han. The next possibility is that he's telling the truth. This would mean that either Han is lying about having not targeted Chris, or there's a bus driver that either swapped Han and someone that actually did target Chris, or they swapped Chris and whoever Han targeted. I doubt it's the latter option, as that would mean the scum just got Chris by complete chance last night
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I need to sit down, go through the list, and townclear, gut, and poe some fellas.

Scare is still likely Scum, but I'm going to give him a chance to stage some sort of defense before I end him.

I think Scare realized that he was the prime choice for roleblock, and is throwing a hail Mary because he figures we wont let him live that long because he should have been roleblocked.
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Ah, new topic. To summarize, scum would have to have the same Format, parentheses and all. And Chris' comments on his own flavor would have confirmed any doubt. Han was too late to that confirming himself party. BUT ANYWAY

This is interesting, Scare. The main thing that makes me trust you as town is that Red didn't try to save you and urged us not to special Death. Why didn't you listen to your mason buddy and save chris though? ): And how do you feel about Lolo?
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ScareChan posted...

I will not be altering any information I have given further today. Han is my true scan. If I walk anything back feel free to lynch me immediately

Nice

##Unvote

##Vote: Han
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I won't give any spoilers away, ben.

Anyway, I'm going to wait for Scare to respond, but I'm pretty positive this is a Scumplay where they are making an assumption that is wrong.

geno4smash4 posted...

Han I assume my role is inconsequential so it's not a trouble to balance it around other roles.

Do you promise you're not the version of a drunk who forces players to target a player of their choice?

I can't promise anything, my role says drunk, when N2 ends I might switch to scum, I might become 3rd party, anything might happen, I have never seen this role so I'm not sure what to expect.

htaeD posted...

Ugh
I guess whatever game I was thinking of where Scare did the fakescan thing
is no longer on the logs.

At least Scare admitted to it

Scare, if this second scan is true or not.. You better clear that up sooner than later

Death what info do you actually care about here? I remember what scare did in the last few games, and both of the times he bluffed. So what do you want to know?
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No way scum shoots Chris without knowing he'd die.
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Geno, you said you win with Town. You're going back on that?
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benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

Ugh
I guess whatever game I was thinking of where Scare did the fakescan thing
is no longer on the logs.

At least Scare admitted to it

Scare, if this second scan is true or not.. You better clear that up sooner than later

Death what info do you actually care about here? I remember what scare did in the last few games, and both of the times he bluffed. So what do you want to know?

That Scare not waste our time again like he did last time. And/or not to raise up my hopes.
That said the situation is different in that this time scare already looked pretty bad and his claim was already out there...
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Geno, you said you win with Town. You're going back on that?

I do win with town, that's why I'm saying switch.

Doop IS very likely town I must stress. I have a lot of experience with him and can usually soul read him
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benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

Ugh
I guess whatever game I was thinking of where Scare did the fakescan thing
is no longer on the logs.

At least Scare admitted to it

Scare, if this second scan is true or not.. You better clear that up sooner than later

Death what info do you actually care about here? I remember what scare did in the last few games, and both of the times he bluffed. So what do you want to know?

So you know he bluffed. Why are you so ready to believe another fake scan?

I would think Ben would be wiser than to so readily believe an obvious lie.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Ah, new topic. To summarize, scum would have to have the same Format, parentheses and all. And Chris' comments on his own flavor would have confirmed any doubt. Han was too late to that confirming himself party. BUT ANYWAY

This is interesting, Scare. The main thing that makes me trust you as town is that Red didn't try to save you and urged us not to special Death. Why didn't you listen to your mason buddy and save chris though? ): And how do you feel about Lolo?

I went over why I didnt save Chris

Assumed full doc
Assumed scum unblockable
Assumed I would be blocked anyways so if I got something off it was more worth it to try to get info

And at this point I think that chris was assassin kill and I was factional kill which is why I was unblocked, but someone saved me (bless u)
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I need to sit down, go through the list, and townclear, gut, and poe some fellas.

Scare is still likely Scum, but I'm going to give him a chance to stage some sort of defense before I end him.

I think Scare realized that he was the prime choice for roleblock, and is throwing a hail Mary because he figures we wont let him live that long because he should have been roleblocked.

Why did he not claim blocked?
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Also at this point, scum might as well fake roleblocking scare if he is one of them.
Nobody better to block besides maybe Han.
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Geno did your role not even have a win condition?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

Ugh
I guess whatever game I was thinking of where Scare did the fakescan thing
is no longer on the logs.

At least Scare admitted to it

Scare, if this second scan is true or not.. You better clear that up sooner than later

Death what info do you actually care about here? I remember what scare did in the last few games, and both of the times he bluffed. So what do you want to know?

So you know he bluffed. Why are you so ready to believe another fake scan?

I would think Ben would be wiser than to so readily believe an obvious lie.

I don't have to believe it to play along with it
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Han, Scare is now saying he is not bluffing.

So either he is scum, or you visited Chris
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I have a lot more to say but I gotta go back to work
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benjamin3740 posted...

Geno did your role not even have a win condition?

It did. Although like I said I did ask eaed to make sure I wasn't some weird 3rd party.

Han still claiming vanilla?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han still claiming vanilla?

Didn't he claim Mega Man with a Metal Blade power? Still not sure if that was an example of the format or an actual claim
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Finally back. Took a bit longer than I expected, but I should be here for a good few hours.

Might as well throw my two cents in on this whole Scare debacle. Over all, in a Scare vs Han situation, I'm more inclined to believe Han is the scum. Although, they could both be Town- I read Scare as moderately Town for his responses to Harris' (kind of wonky) grilling, while I don't have much of a read at all on Han. Maybe just a bit scum. That mostly comes from him "suspecting" me, insofar as quoting half of the posts I make and saying "yeah, he's definitely scum" constitutes suspecting.
##Vote: Han
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hombad46 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han still claiming vanilla?

Didn't he claim Mega Man with a Metal Blade power? Still not sure if that was an example of the format or an actual claim

Not sure either
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ScareChan posted...

geno4smash4 posted...

What the f, will we really let Scare get away with a fake scan? Town has literally no reason to lie.
##Vote:Scare

Wow look at the han defense force here

Geno has definitely played with corrik before so he knows town can lie all the time

Also doop swinging on me after he trusted my scan after saying he wanted to lynch han but follow the scan and now wants to vote me lol

Yeah scum tried to kill me and they are salty as fuck

Isn't Han a new player? Literally no reason to waste your neck out on a new player if I'm being brutally honest.

And scum salty about failing to kill you? LOL I doubt it, but why the hell would someone be salty about a jack that already used one of his better abilities? Seems like one hell of a stretch to inflate your own ego, which is silly. A one use doc is not worth being fearful of when there's definitely an actual doc in the game. Especially when you haven't been the most progressive of the players here as is.
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Han is an established veteran who has played about as long as Chris and red
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And I hope I don't have to explain that i say veteran as a mafia player not veteran as town
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Hey Guy's I'm here again...

Looking back at my posts from the previous topic, God damn I feel completely stupid and I want to apologise to scare for wasting his time with whatever I spewed out... I was staying up until 7 am in the morning and I regret not going to bed earlier.

Scare do you forgive me?


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I don't believe han is scum, because he made excellent points on Chris's attitude throughout day 1. Even though chris was town, I still find that those points still hold merit to understanding a town/scum chris. No scum would be this detailed towards a potential mislynch.

Scare why did you lie about the scan? Withholding information is anti town and that makes you look bad, doubly so if it's another false scan.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Hey Guy's I'm here again...

Looking back at my posts from the previous topic, God damn I feel completely stupid and I want to apologise to scare for wasting his time with whatever I spewed out... I was staying up until 7 am in the morning and I regret not going to bed earlier.

Scare do you forgive me?

If you vote han, sure!
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ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Hey Guy's I'm here again...

Looking back at my posts from the previous topic, God damn I feel completely stupid and I want to apologise to scare for wasting his time with whatever I spewed out... I was staying up until 7 am in the morning and I regret not going to bed earlier.

Scare do you forgive me?

If you vote han, sure!

No can do, han has yet to show that he is secretly scum... and so far he is showing some townlike manouvers with his interactions with you bud
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htaeD posted...

Also at this point, scum might as well fake roleblocking scare if he is one of them.
Nobody better to block besides maybe Han.

I mean, I did claim vanilla. Thing is, if Scare is Scum, then especially with red, they probably decide to actually use their roleblock instead of gimping themselves for the sake of claim.

So basically, scare not being roleblocked points to him as Scum more than as Town.

This "scare was Scum kill" line of thought is dumb. No reason to assume a kill when there is no proof of one.

htaeD posted...

Han, Scare is now saying he is not bluffing.

So either he is scum, or you visited Chris

That's what I'm saying. At this point, with him doubling down so much, he is playing too poorly if he is Town. Makes no sense for Scare to stick to a gambit this bad, this long as Town.

hombad46 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han still claiming vanilla?

Didn't he claim Mega Man with a Metal Blade power? Still not sure if that was an example of the format or an actual claim

It was both, and I hate this because me saying this means nothing now, but it's also evidence for why I'm not Scum.
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Also, for Christ's sake, if other people don't agree with me that Pendragon is Scum, I'm gonna freak.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, for Christ's sake, if other people don't agree with me that Pendragon is Scum, I'm gonna freak.

Im not seeing it. Mind explaining why?
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benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

I will not be altering any information I have given further today. Han is my true scan. If I walk anything back feel free to lynch me immediately

Nice

##Unvote

##Vote: Han

Quite some synergy with Ben and scare here... very sus considering every vote ben put out was because scare said it...
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Hbthebattle posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, for Christ's sake, if other people don't agree with me that Pendragon is Scum, I'm gonna freak.

Im not seeing it. Mind explaining why?

When I get home, I'll put it into words better.
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