Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Mafia Topic 5: Or as others call it Smash Brothers for Switch

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Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

ScareChan posted...

doop why are you on me again

Why are you on me?

you literally killed chris
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?

okay trying to engage you and understand your point of view so I can explain why its wrong and you can lynch actual scum

but sure have fun with that
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

FD, you're not a good enough player to have an impact on saving me.

Go back to playing Switch. It's evident that you're comfortable sitting on Red flipping Scum and you're not going to try for the rest of this game.

Hey, fuck you too then.

There was something I could have said that would have absolved you. Absolutely. But you didn't say the magic words, so the situation is apparently not as I had envisioned.

And I'm not playing switch, I'm at work and I'm reading as fast as I can on my breaks so I can provide input.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Eh, I'm still siding with scare here.

The risk/reward here greatly favors a han lynch.

If we lynch one of them and they're Town, we lynch the other.

Thus, the only risk/reward involved is who's more likely to be scum.

Scare is far, far more likely to be scum.

Call it 50/50
Call it 80/20
Call it 30/70

Break down the likelihoods however you like and the fact remains that one of them MUST be scum. And one of them is probably telling the truth unless they are both scum.

The benefit of a successful scum han lynch outweighs the benefit of a successful scum scare lynch.

The downside of a town scare mislynch is WORSE than the downside of a town Han mislynch.

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Han is the way to go today.
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Scare
Ben

probably two more with that.

Leaning on Pendragon and Lolo, but I would bet one of those is wrong.

Other probably Terra or Sultan.

Geno could easily fill in any of those slots, but only because of his claim.

That's my current view of the game, since someone (Doop?) asked me that earlier.

I still plan to do a topic 1-2 reread and purely go off gut, since that's a >60% hit rate.

ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ScareChan posted...

doop why are you on me again

Why are you on me?

you literally killed chris

We both know that isn't true, so try again.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

FD, you're not a good enough player to have an impact on saving me.

Go back to playing Switch. It's evident that you're comfortable sitting on Red flipping Scum and you're not going to try for the rest of this game.

Hey, fuck you too then.

There was something I could have said that would have absolved you. Absolutely. But you didn't say the magic words, so the situation is apparently not as I had envisioned.

And I'm not playing switch, I'm at work and I'm reading as fast as I can on my breaks so I can provide input.

And if I'm not lynched, then I can literally save you every night until I die. All you would have to do is claim a power role that's worth me sacrificing myself for.

Anyway, what I posted there was actually the mild version of a post I had before, so I'm just letting you know, FD, that this play from you is awful and I'm very upset at the lack of effort you're putting into the game.

Might as well say what those magic words are, so we can all laugh at how bad the thought process is.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

The downside of a town scare mislynch is WORSE than the downside of a town Han mislynch.

What?

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.

If Scare is Town, you lose a fucking Doc and a Commute. I'm a Bodyguard. That's 100000000X more powerful.
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We don't even have a scanner for you to guard.

Scare has the potential to fully PREVENT a kill.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

For Han to be scum, he had to have made both a 300 IQ and 3 IQ play.

First, he had to have set up the Vanilla/Metal Blade ploy in advance in order to use it to call himself Town later, since he'd know both the Vanilla and power formats and wouldn't make that mistake.

Second, after setting up that brilliant natural-looking trap, he had to have been prepared to throw it all out the window on Day 2. Remember, Han correctly knew part of the formatting that hadn't been posted in topic before, and when I, an uninformed Vanilla, caught that it didn't match up, rather than get scared and check, Han was so confident that he was correct that he voted me. This game has had two claims thus far that don't quite follow the pattern laid out by the others, geno's and Scare's, and, keeping in mind that Scare is for sure Town if Han is scum, it would be astronomically stupid for scum Han to stick to his guns so strongly without even bothering to check if he's right. Town Han doesn't worry because he knows he's Town.

Both of these occurrences are highly unlikely. But both? Nah, Scare botched his claim, knows he's dead, and is trying to take out a good but lynchable Town player with him.

@ScareChan I thought posting this in the game would be enough for you to bother reading it but apparently not so here's that viewpoint you were asking about
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

We don't even have a scanner for you to guard.

This is... such a dumb statement.

Scare has the potential to fully PREVENT a kill.

I have the GUARANTEE to prevent a power getting killed.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Eh, I'm still siding with scare here.

The risk/reward here greatly favors a han lynch.

If we lynch one of them and they're Town, we lynch the other.

Thus, the only risk/reward involved is who's more likely to be scum.

Scare is far, far more likely to be scum.

Call it 50/50
Call it 80/20
Call it 30/70

Break down the likelihoods however you like and the fact remains that one of them MUST be scum. And one of them is probably telling the truth unless they are both scum.

The benefit of a successful scum han lynch outweighs the benefit of a successful scum scare lynch.

The downside of a town scare mislynch is WORSE than the downside of a town Han mislynch.

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Han is the way to go today.

If we lynch scum today, the other probably dies tonight, gg. If we lynch Town today, it doesn't matter who it was because neither of their claimed roles exists anymore.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

We don't even have a scanner for you to guard.

This is... such a dumb statement.

Scare has the potential to fully PREVENT a kill.

I have the GUARANTEE to prevent a power getting killed.

And you die in the process- so in essence, you only can protect one person.
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I woke up to take a shit, saw that han claimed bodyguard... that trumps whatever scare has by a mile...

Oh and if han is telling the truth then that's two fake scans by scare which by the way, scare said if he faked another scan then it's best to lynch him...

##vote: scare

I finally feel confident to lay my vote down on someone... thank you han so much
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

For Han to be scum, he had to have made both a 300 IQ and 3 IQ play.

First, he had to have set up the Vanilla/Metal Blade ploy in advance in order to use it to call himself Town later, since he'd know both the Vanilla and power formats and wouldn't make that mistake.

Second, after setting up that brilliant natural-looking trap, he had to have been prepared to throw it all out the window on Day 2. Remember, Han correctly knew part of the formatting that hadn't been posted in topic before, and when I, an uninformed Vanilla, caught that it didn't match up, rather than get scared and check, Han was so confident that he was correct that he voted me. This game has had two claims thus far that don't quite follow the pattern laid out by the others, geno's and Scare's, and, keeping in mind that Scare is for sure Town if Han is scum, it would be astronomically stupid for scum Han to stick to his guns so strongly without even bothering to check if he's right. Town Han doesn't worry because he knows he's Town.

Both of these occurrences are highly unlikely. But both? Nah, Scare botched his claim, knows he's dead, and is trying to take out a good but lynchable Town player with him.

@ScareChan I thought posting this in the game would be enough for you to bother reading it but apparently not so here's that viewpoint you were asking about

so your reason for thinking Han is town is because you like the way in which he claimed

You dont have to trust me on this, you can ask anyone else in the game, that is easily fakeable as scum
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Hbthebattle posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

We don't even have a scanner for you to guard.

This is... such a dumb statement.

Scare has the potential to fully PREVENT a kill.

I have the GUARANTEE to prevent a power getting killed.

And you die in the process- so in essence, you only can protect one person.

Same for a single-use Doc save? And yeah, I die, which is why I was in no way going to use it N1.

If Scum have a strongman, which is very likely, they assuredly used it on Chris. Roleblocks still counter the set-up, but we can potentially get the roleblocker lynched earlier enough for me to be able to sacrifice myself for a particularly good power.

Don't get me wrong, I'm full of myself and don't like using a Bodyguard ability, but if it protects a scanner who can possibly get a good scan off, then I'm all in.

It's a little early for my claim to be that strong anymore tho, so chances are that I get killed while powers get roleblocked.

So really, I probably die at night if I live through today anyway.
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ScareChan posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

For Han to be scum, he had to have made both a 300 IQ and 3 IQ play.

First, he had to have set up the Vanilla/Metal Blade ploy in advance in order to use it to call himself Town later, since he'd know both the Vanilla and power formats and wouldn't make that mistake.

Second, after setting up that brilliant natural-looking trap, he had to have been prepared to throw it all out the window on Day 2. Remember, Han correctly knew part of the formatting that hadn't been posted in topic before, and when I, an uninformed Vanilla, caught that it didn't match up, rather than get scared and check, Han was so confident that he was correct that he voted me. This game has had two claims thus far that don't quite follow the pattern laid out by the others, geno's and Scare's, and, keeping in mind that Scare is for sure Town if Han is scum, it would be astronomically stupid for scum Han to stick to his guns so strongly without even bothering to check if he's right. Town Han doesn't worry because he knows he's Town.

Both of these occurrences are highly unlikely. But both? Nah, Scare botched his claim, knows he's dead, and is trying to take out a good but lynchable Town player with him.

@ScareChan I thought posting this in the game would be enough for you to bother reading it but apparently not so here's that viewpoint you were asking about

so your reason for thinking Han is town is because you like the way in which he claimed

You dont have to trust me on this, you can ask anyone else in the game, that is easily fakeable as scum

There are several things that need to fall into place for Han to be scum, while you're still the odd one out in terms of both role and what a top 5 Town player in the world thinks about you this game. I have no reason to think you're Town and every reason to think you're scum.
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ScareChan posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

For Han to be scum, he had to have made both a 300 IQ and 3 IQ play.

First, he had to have set up the Vanilla/Metal Blade ploy in advance in order to use it to call himself Town later, since he'd know both the Vanilla and power formats and wouldn't make that mistake.

Second, after setting up that brilliant natural-looking trap, he had to have been prepared to throw it all out the window on Day 2. Remember, Han correctly knew part of the formatting that hadn't been posted in topic before, and when I, an uninformed Vanilla, caught that it didn't match up, rather than get scared and check, Han was so confident that he was correct that he voted me. This game has had two claims thus far that don't quite follow the pattern laid out by the others, geno's and Scare's, and, keeping in mind that Scare is for sure Town if Han is scum, it would be astronomically stupid for scum Han to stick to his guns so strongly without even bothering to check if he's right. Town Han doesn't worry because he knows he's Town.

Both of these occurrences are highly unlikely. But both? Nah, Scare botched his claim, knows he's dead, and is trying to take out a good but lynchable Town player with him.

@ScareChan I thought posting this in the game would be enough for you to bother reading it but apparently not so here's that viewpoint you were asking about

so your reason for thinking Han is town is because you like the way in which he claimed

You dont have to trust me on this, you can ask anyone else in the game, that is easily fakeable as scum

So is "so-and-so targeted the dead guy".

Watch this.

I claim Tracker, Jedimess targeted Chris last night! Get 'em, boys!
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Pirate_Harris posted...

I woke up to take a shit, saw that han claimed bodyguard... that trumps whatever scare has by a mile...

Oh and if han is telling the truth then that's two fake scans by scare which by the way, scare said if he faked another scan then it's best to lynch him...

##vote: scare

I finally feel confident to lay my vote down on someone... thank you han so much

you are going to feel very very foolish if I am lynched

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing
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ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

I woke up to take a shit, saw that han claimed bodyguard... that trumps whatever scare has by a mile...

Oh and if han is telling the truth then that's two fake scans by scare which by the way, scare said if he faked another scan then it's best to lynch him...

##vote: scare

I finally feel confident to lay my vote down on someone... thank you han so much

you are going to feel very very foolish if I am lynched

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing

So then who did you actually track night 1?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

ScareChan posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

For Han to be scum, he had to have made both a 300 IQ and 3 IQ play.

First, he had to have set up the Vanilla/Metal Blade ploy in advance in order to use it to call himself Town later, since he'd know both the Vanilla and power formats and wouldn't make that mistake.

Second, after setting up that brilliant natural-looking trap, he had to have been prepared to throw it all out the window on Day 2. Remember, Han correctly knew part of the formatting that hadn't been posted in topic before, and when I, an uninformed Vanilla, caught that it didn't match up, rather than get scared and check, Han was so confident that he was correct that he voted me. This game has had two claims thus far that don't quite follow the pattern laid out by the others, geno's and Scare's, and, keeping in mind that Scare is for sure Town if Han is scum, it would be astronomically stupid for scum Han to stick to his guns so strongly without even bothering to check if he's right. Town Han doesn't worry because he knows he's Town.

Both of these occurrences are highly unlikely. But both? Nah, Scare botched his claim, knows he's dead, and is trying to take out a good but lynchable Town player with him.

@ScareChan I thought posting this in the game would be enough for you to bother reading it but apparently not so here's that viewpoint you were asking about

so your reason for thinking Han is town is because you like the way in which he claimed

You dont have to trust me on this, you can ask anyone else in the game, that is easily fakeable as scum

So is "so-and-so targeted the dead guy".

Watch this.

I claim Tracker, Jedimess targeted Chris last night! Get 'em, boys!

are you even trying

and everyone is attaching themselves to you to save you so this is making things easy even fi I am mislynched
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Keep in mind Ben - he did not claim an attack as his role.

Put yourself in the host's shoes. You put a jack in the game. How do you give it a move flavor? You have to go for a more flavorful flavor. And again, scum starts with info. It'd be very dumb of Scum scare to not realize the other scum are moves and plan accordingly
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ScareChan posted...

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing

I haven't lied about my claim all day! You have.

Really Scare, how do you find the energy to push through this farce? We both know you're lying. If you're Scum, then I guess it's admirable to push to get what you consider to be Town's strongest player out of the way in a suicide... but in the offchance that you're Town, there's zero reason to think I'm Scum based off of D1, so it makes no sense to go all in on a bluff like this.
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Pendragon71037 posted...

hombad46 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

The only possible way for Scare to be Town AND telling the truth is if there is killer out there who kills by possessing someone else.

I can't pretend to have paid super close attention to the Smash reveals to know all the abilities, but I don't recall there being an ability like that in any of the Newcomers.

Well Mario does have Cappy now, but hes a veteran

But that's a new ability of his. With how screwed up all of the flavor talk has been, I'd only be a little bit surprised if Mario, Newcomer Cap Toss (Possessor Vigilante or whatever you'd call that) were a role. I mean, that sounds like something I'd come up with if I was a host (then again, I'm a terrible host who sometimes prioritized flavor over gamebalance, so.)

This is pointless fluff. Do you really think Han was possessed
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benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Keep in mind Ben - he did not claim an attack as his role.

Put yourself in the host's shoes. You put a jack in the game. How do you give it a move flavor? You have to go for a more flavorful flavor. And again, scum starts with info. It'd be very dumb of Scum scare to not realize the other scum are moves and plan accordingly

Your second point makes sense. The first doesn't though. Just pick an attack that has multiple possibilities. There's plenty of options. Such as Kirby's absorption (which you can then name the powers after various moves from WHOMEVER you want).

Link is like, mid-tier for who I would consider for the Jack role.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, Scare is obviously lying. He doesn't use phrases like "oh my god" (no caps) and "lmao" seriously.

The only thing I walked back was a vanilla claim that was obviously false when I claimed to have an attack as my role (which also confirms me as Town).

"oh my god"

Stop saying you're confirmed town

"lmao"

It's making me feel worse about you. If you're scum you start with all of this info and can fake whatever you want
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Pirate_Harris posted...

ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

I woke up to take a shit, saw that han claimed bodyguard... that trumps whatever scare has by a mile...

Oh and if han is telling the truth then that's two fake scans by scare which by the way, scare said if he faked another scan then it's best to lynch him...

##vote: scare

I finally feel confident to lay my vote down on someone... thank you han so much

you are going to feel very very foolish if I am lynched

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing

So then who did you actually track night 1?

Pirate I told you, I tracked Han to Chris. And I said I will not alter this again and if I do lynch me immediately
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I'm not happy about it. I know me being the one to say it makes it sound more sketch. But, once again - it would require me claiming vanilla, trying to explain vanillas as being renamed for attacks, all with the purpose of setting up a power claim eventually.

Like, for me to do that as Scum, I have to for sure be committing to a power claim. And why would I commit to Bodyguard, out of anything? And if I'm fake-claiming Bodyguard as Scum, why do I claim to have gone nowhere and that someone who hypothetically tracked me to the NK is lying when I could just... claim to have gone to the NK as Bodyguard? Strongmans working around Bodyguards isn't uncommon.

Nothing about my claim makes sense for Scum to do.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum. And no I wont accept Han conspiracy theories where they guessed he was a role that would target chris
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benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ok, Scare is obviously lying. He doesn't use phrases like "oh my god" (no caps) and "lmao" seriously.

The only thing I walked back was a vanilla claim that was obviously false when I claimed to have an attack as my role (which also confirms me as Town).

"oh my god"

Stop saying you're confirmed town

"lmao"

It's making me feel worse about you. If you're scum you start with all of this info and can fake whatever you want

"oh my god"

Stop acting like scare is not obviously scum

"lmao"

It's making me think your defending a scum buddy and not a clueless town, if you are scum the entire time then it makes sense why you slightly bussed scare in the beginning and only came on his side at the end...
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ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

I woke up to take a shit, saw that han claimed bodyguard... that trumps whatever scare has by a mile...

Oh and if han is telling the truth then that's two fake scans by scare which by the way, scare said if he faked another scan then it's best to lynch him...

##vote: scare

I finally feel confident to lay my vote down on someone... thank you han so much

you are going to feel very very foolish if I am lynched

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing

So then who did you actually track night 1?

Pirate I told you, I tracked Han to Chris. And I said I will not alter this again and if I do lynch me immediately

Uhhh... try again
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Wait han if you bg chris why is Chris dead?
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benjamin3740 posted...

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum.

What reason does he have to be making these plays as Town?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Wait han if you bg chris why is Chris dead?

He didn't... he didn't make any moves that night...
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

The downside of a town scare mislynch is WORSE than the downside of a town Han mislynch.

What?

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.

If Scare is Town, you lose a fucking Doc and a Commute. I'm a Bodyguard. That's 100000000X more powerful.

A bodygaurd that doesnt even act to save the biggest scum target ever.

Honestly the reason I hate you right now is that you didnt save him
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

ScareChan posted...

Especially since your distrust from me stemmed from me changing my information today and Han is doing the same thing

I haven't lied about my claim all day! You have.

Really Scare, how do you find the energy to push through this farce? We both know you're lying. If you're Scum, then I guess it's admirable to push to get what you consider to be Town's strongest player out of the way in a suicide... but in the offchance that you're Town, there's zero reason to think I'm Scum based off of D1, so it makes no sense to go all in on a bluff like this.

You went from Vanilla to bodyguard, thats a lie
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That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit
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benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

The downside of a town scare mislynch is WORSE than the downside of a town Han mislynch.

What?

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.

If Scare is Town, you lose a fucking Doc and a Commute. I'm a Bodyguard. That's 100000000X more powerful.

A bodygaurd that doesnt even act to save the biggest scum target ever.

Honestly the reason I hate you right now is that you didnt save him

Yet you don't belabour scare for not saving chris... are you ok ben? Remember he had a doc save and chris is the biggest scum target...
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benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Keep in mind Ben - he did not claim an attack as his role.

Put yourself in the host's shoes. You put a jack in the game. How do you give it a move flavor? You have to go for a more flavorful flavor. And again, scum starts with info. It'd be very dumb of Scum scare to not realize the other scum are moves and plan accordingly

Pac-Man Bonus Fruit, took me three seconds to think of.

If you're telling me Scare's role isn't a move, how is it a stretch to suggest scum's roles aren't moves and Chris actually caught Scare?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum.

What reason does he have to be making these plays as Town?

He has done it before. He likes reaction testing I guess. Or he just actually tracked you, but I dunno
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?
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##vote:Han

Like I said I call Bullshit
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So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum. And no I wont accept Han conspiracy theories where they guessed he was a role that would target chris

Scare was caught scum hard called out by Chris

"Ah man I'm dead no matter what may as well take someone with me."

Makes perfect sense, really.

Also Han had a scum read on Chris, of course he wouldn't BG him. I too was convinced Chris was scum overnight.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

No I'm not scum. Also why the fuck would I try so hard to lynch red if I was scum? Try to get red to claim if I'm scum? It's called trying to throw shade at me beacuse he knew he was in trouble
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benjamin3740 posted...

I'm not saying we have any reason to beleive Scare is telling the truth about his actions last night, but I do think there's evidence for him being town

Remember this?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Keep in mind Ben - he did not claim an attack as his role.

Put yourself in the host's shoes. You put a jack in the game. How do you give it a move flavor? You have to go for a more flavorful flavor. And again, scum starts with info. It'd be very dumb of Scum scare to not realize the other scum are moves and plan accordingly

Your second point makes sense. The first doesn't though. Just pick an attack that has multiple possibilities. There's plenty of options. Such as Kirby's absorption (which you can then name the powers after various moves from WHOMEVER you want).

Link is like, mid-tier for who I would consider for the Jack role.

how many times do I have to talk about the signup topic

he randomized players and flavor and then randomized roles

pikachu could equally be lightning rod, vanilla, miller, whatever for an example
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I don't think I said I was vanilla today.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

Sultan, I don't think you realize this, but if I guard the person who gets shot, I die.

I don't want to die.

Are you going to vote for Scare as well? He didn't take a night action to save Chris. Why wouldn't he save Chris? You call bullshit.

Ultimately, if I actually stopped to consider guarding Chris, I still wouldn't. If a Strongman goes through bodyguard but takes it out as well (I've seen this variant before), then it would make more sense to wait to use the ability until later in the game. Chris would be a prime Watcher target, so if he was hit with a Ninja, then i would pop up to that ninja and a watcher wouldn't.

I mean, rationally, guarding Chris had a lot more chance to backfire.
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If han is scum I think it might be safe to say Pirate is scum he is trying to bus han
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

No I'm not scum. Also why the fuck would I try so hard to lynch red if I was scum? Try to get red to claim if I'm scum? It's called trying to throw shade at me beacuse he knew he was in trouble

But he didn't get lynched, scare was getting lynched... then Jedi was getting lynched... then he snuck back into the background
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You are literally a bg. He was trying to track who killed chris I think his move makes sense still beacuse a doctor doesnt see who shot the dieing
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