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Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:15:02 PM #101:	benjamin3740 posted... Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me! If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today... --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913265882] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me!</quote> If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:15:03 PM #102:	Pendragon71037 posted... Okay, we back lads. ...well. After a 200+ post catch-up, new thoughts have certainly surfaced. Terra: It's been a while, but doesn't Terra lurk like heck when he's scum? @Terra-enforcer, you're a pretty good player, would really appreciate having some input from you! Geno, and his situation in general: I didn't know what to make of this for the longest time as I was reading, but what ultimately convinced me was Chris' paragraph about protecting newbie Town, because I've had those exact thoughts before. About Alakazam, specifically, for those of you who know him. If that's how Chris is seeing geno right now, then I buy it. Corrik, and his situation in general: Mixed bag, because while I might be able to get a solid read on his potential replacement, Corrik is also a good player in his own right. Finally, a few short thoughts. Hbthebattle is looking slightly scummier to me. His opinions seem too...flexible? He seems like he's just following the Town, is what I'm trying to say. Don't know where this train on red is coming from- he didn't really stand out one way or the other to me. Haven't played with him before, though, so I'm probably missing something. Doopliss is looking Town. I sometimes have trouble deciding how I feel about him, but right now I like how he went through and gave his thoughts on each player. I remember that being a Town indicator for him. FD, by "calmed down" I meant you were no longer posting every other minute to give weird emoji-filled fluff. That's all. I didn't mean to imply anything about your activity level, just the content of your posts. I'm home for the night, so I'm gonna start in on that re-reading of the topic as a whole now. And here's his second post of the game. So already, two things about Pendragon. 1. He makes big wall posts with opinions on individuals. 2. He says he'll be around but bounces every time. Doesn't engage, just posts thoughts and goes off. Key about a lot of the things... is that he's offering some odd thoughts. Such as: Don't know where this train on red is coming from- he didn't really stand out one way or the other to me. Haven't played with him before, though, so I'm probably missing something. It's weird because... "didn't stand out one way or the other". So the train on (who we now know is confirmed Scum) is weird. But why comment in this fashion? Literally saying he doesn't see him as Scum, but that he's "probably" missing something, which is leaving it open enough that he's not making a clear decision. He DID go back on his thoughts on Hb, but aside from that, a lot of these names are rather pointless null reads to talk about. I'll admit, it may just be in a game with HB and Homsar playing and participating as well as they are, he just looks really bad in comparison. So I'm not pulling the "gut" just yet, because Hangut is most often tricked by bad newbie play, but a lot of what he has said (and he's posted so little) feels like he is being coached, at least somewhat. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913265885] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pendragon71037 posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, we back lads. ...well. After a 200+ post catch-up, new thoughts have certainly surfaced. Terra: It's been a while, but doesn't Terra lurk like heck when he's scum? @Terra-enforcer, you're a pretty good player, would really appreciate having some input from you! Geno, and his situation in general: I didn't know what to make of this for the longest time as I was reading, but what ultimately convinced me was Chris' paragraph about protecting newbie Town, because I've had those exact thoughts before. About Alakazam, specifically, for those of you who know him. If that's how Chris is seeing geno right now, then I buy it. Corrik, and his situation in general: Mixed bag, because while I might be able to get a solid read on his potential replacement, Corrik is also a good player in his own right. Finally, a few short thoughts. Hbthebattle is looking slightly scummier to me. His opinions seem too...flexible? He seems like he's just following the Town, is what I'm trying to say. Don't know where this train on red is coming from- he didn't really stand out one way or the other to me. Haven't played with him before, though, so I'm probably missing something. Doopliss is looking Town. I sometimes have trouble deciding how I feel about him, but right now I like how he went through and gave his thoughts on each player. I remember that being a Town indicator for him. FD, by "calmed down" I meant you were no longer posting every other minute to give weird emoji-filled fluff. That's all. I didn't mean to imply anything about your activity level, just the content of your posts. I'm home for the night, so I'm gonna start in on that re-reading of the topic as a whole now.</quote> And here's his second post of the game. So already, two things about Pendragon. 1. He makes big wall posts with opinions on individuals. 2. He says he'll be around but bounces every time. Doesn't engage, just posts thoughts and goes off. Key about a lot of the things... is that he's offering some odd thoughts. Such as: <quote>Don't know where this train on red is coming from- he didn't really stand out one way or the other to me. Haven't played with him before, though, so I'm probably missing something.</quote> It's weird because... "didn't stand out one way or the other". So the train on (who we now know is confirmed Scum) is weird. But why comment in this fashion? Literally saying he doesn't see him as Scum, but that he's "probably" missing something, which is leaving it open enough that he's not making a clear decision. He DID go back on his thoughts on Hb, but aside from that, a lot of these names are rather pointless null reads to talk about. I'll admit, it may just be in a game with HB and Homsar playing and participating as well as they are, he just looks really bad in comparison. So I'm not pulling the "gut" just yet, because Hangut is most often tricked by bad newbie play, but a lot of what he has said (and he's posted so little) feels like he is being coached, at least somewhat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:15:38 PM #103:	benjamin3740 posted... FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. But you think I do? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913265910] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. </quote> But you think I do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:17:56 PM #104:	Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me! If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today... Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me. --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266045] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me!</quote> If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today...</quote> Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:18:22 PM #105:	benjamin3740 posted... Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually.... *TRAPPED* Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal) --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913266068] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually....</quote> TRAPPED Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:19:38 PM #106:	Yes Han, if Pendragon is scum here then it reminds me of scum Doopliss. He's only coming in to post his thoughts, not asking questions or interacting. (And that's why Doopliss is town this game, because he is doing the latter) --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266135] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>Yes Han, if Pendragon is scum here then it reminds me of scum Doopliss. He's only coming in to post his thoughts, not asking questions or interacting. (And that's why Doopliss is town this game, because he is doing the latter)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:20:50 PM #107:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually.... *TRAPPED* Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal) You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves... --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266194] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually....</quote> TRAPPED Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal)</quote> You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:21:05 PM #108:	benjamin3740 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me! If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today... Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me. Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913266207] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me!</quote> If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today...</quote> Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me.</quote> Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:21:30 PM #109:	Otherwise you're scum and only knew about it from your buddies --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266224] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>Otherwise you're scum and only knew about it from your buddies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:23:47 PM #110:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. But you think I do? I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266363] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. </quote> But you think I do?</quote> I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:26:57 PM #111:	Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me! If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today... Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me. Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now He;s done it as town before. He's fake tracked one target, said it was a bluff and that his REAL target was so and so....and then eneded up being vanilla, all as town before. That action alone isnt really something that proves Scare scummy. Unless you think he has scummy motives for testing Death or something. Which I dont really. I'd have tested death too --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266550] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me!</quote> If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today...</quote> Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me.</quote> Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now</quote> He;s done it as town before. He's fake tracked one target, said it was a bluff and that his REAL target was so and so....and then eneded up being vanilla, all as town before. That action alone isnt really something that proves Scare scummy. Unless you think he has scummy motives for testing Death or something. Which I dont really. I'd have tested death too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:27:52 PM #112:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually.... *TRAPPED* Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal) Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913266597] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? You are going to claim an action eventually....</quote> TRAPPED Ben knows I am going to claim an action eventually. Which means he's in on the Scum plan to push for my lynch then explain it away. No reason for Town to expect me to claim an action, especially when I said, in bold, that it's impossible. The only explanation is that Ben knows more than any Town should, at the moment. Anyway, since Ben tossed me the lowball, I'll go ahead and come out with all my information (but not before posting this post and letting you all salivate for the big reveal)</quote> Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 11/29/18 6:29:19 PM #113:	HanOfTheNekos posted... a lot of what he has said (and he's posted so little) feels like he is being coached, at least somewhat. Who do you think is doing the coaching? Red? --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks <cite>hombad46 posted [p:913266688] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote> a lot of what he has said (and he's posted so little) feels like he is being coached, at least somewhat.</quote> Who do you think is doing the coaching? Red?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:31:10 PM #114:	benjamin3740 posted... HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. But you think I do? I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest Are you kidding? So in this scenario, Scum me claims to have not targeted Chris. I succeed at getting Scare lynched. He flips Jack, and is proven to be Town. Now that we know he was Jack and telling the truth, I am in the EXACT same position that you are all saying he wouldn't put himself in. The most likely explanation to this scenario is that we are both Town and Scare is lying, since that relies on neither of us being abject trash. But since Scare is doubling down, that means he has a plan beyond this. benjamin3740 posted... You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves... But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. So not only did I not know vanillas didn't have moves assigned to them (literally until host included Chris's role name), but you are claiming that I proved that on day 1? If you noticed that on day 1, then you have to be vanilla or Scum. So it sounds like Scum, who know that vanillas do not have moves as Role Names but know that powers do, noticed that I clearly had to be power. What do they do with this information? Depends on the roles they have. I'll get to that when I get to my explanation for what Scum's plan likely is, and why Scare IS suiciding. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913266798] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. </quote> But you think I do?</quote> I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest</quote> Are you kidding? So in this scenario, Scum me claims to have not targeted Chris. I succeed at getting Scare lynched. He flips Jack, and is proven to be Town. Now that we know he was Jack and telling the truth, I am in the EXACT same position that you are all saying he wouldn't put himself in. The most likely explanation to this scenario is that we are both Town and Scare is lying, since that relies on neither of us being abject trash. But since Scare is doubling down, that means he has a plan beyond this. <cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves...</quote> But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. So not only did I not know vanillas didn't have moves assigned to them (literally until host included Chris's role name), but you are claiming that I proved that on day 1? If you noticed that on day 1, then you have to be vanilla or Scum. So it sounds like Scum, who know that vanillas do not have moves as Role Names but know that powers do, noticed that I clearly had to be power. What do they do with this information? Depends on the roles they have. I'll get to that when I get to my explanation for what Scum's plan likely is, and why Scare IS suiciding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:32:01 PM #115:	benjamin3740 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me! If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today... Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me. Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now He;s done it as town before. He's fake tracked one target, said it was a bluff and that his REAL target was so and so....and then eneded up being vanilla, all as town before. That action alone isnt really something that proves Scare scummy. Unless you think he has scummy motives for testing Death or something. Which I dont really. I'd have tested death too I find fake claiming to be anti-town... even if scare has done this before (I haven't seen it tbh). I don't like the backtrack on han because it doesn't feel natural and just makes scare look like he has knowledge that he shouldn't have --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913266841] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone, absolutely everyone, is saying I'm suspicious. But not giving any explanations. And before you gut-scum read me, let me remind you that last time I was scum absolutely everyone was gut townreading me (then i got myself modkilled at the end of the day). So yeah I dont exactly accept anyone's gut when it comes to me!</quote> If I have no explanation, then why have you voted for the same things that scare has voted for? The scare special being in mind and deaths vote Today...</quote> Because he's been voting for people i had not yet townread and desired to pressure. I also have no reason to think Scare is really even scum at the moment, so voting for things he votes for does not bother me.</quote> Then give me reasons why I shouldn't just vote for scare right now considering the fake scan he pulled just now</quote> He;s done it as town before. He's fake tracked one target, said it was a bluff and that his REAL target was so and so....and then eneded up being vanilla, all as town before. That action alone isnt really something that proves Scare scummy. Unless you think he has scummy motives for testing Death or something. Which I dont really. I'd have tested death too</quote> I find fake claiming to be anti-town... even if scare has done this before (I haven't seen it tbh). I don't like the backtrack on han because it doesn't feel natural and just makes scare look like he has knowledge that he shouldn't have</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:32:25 PM #116:	Pirate_Harris posted... Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han? It's a perspective slip. Pirate, do you know that not all power roles have a night action? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913266859] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han?</quote> It's a perspective slip. Pirate, do you know that not all power roles have a night action?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:32:30 PM #117:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. But you think I do? I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest Are you kidding? So in this scenario, Scum me claims to have not targeted Chris. I succeed at getting Scare lynched. He flips Jack, and is proven to be Town. Now that we know he was Jack and telling the truth, I am in the EXACT same position that you are all saying he wouldn't put himself in. The most likely explanation to this scenario is that we are both Town and Scare is lying, since that relies on neither of us being abject trash. But since Scare is doubling down, that means he has a plan beyond this. benjamin3740 posted... You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves... But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. So not only did I not know vanillas didn't have moves assigned to them (literally until host included Chris's role name), but you are claiming that I proved that on day 1? If you noticed that on day 1, then you have to be vanilla or Scum. So it sounds like Scum, who know that vanillas do not have moves as Role Names but know that powers do, noticed that I clearly had to be power. What do they do with this information? Depends on the roles they have. I'll get to that when I get to my explanation for what Scum's plan likely is, and why Scare IS suiciding. Well yeah I'm vanilla. I also accidentally proved that day 1 because I didnt see what was wrong with Scare's claim and assumed Chris was trapping scum. It's why Chris told me to shut up >_> --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266865] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>FD's head is in the right place. Scare does not die on a hill like this as scum. </quote> But you think I do?</quote> I really dont get this argument still. Lets say Scare catches scum Han moving to Chris. You're saying your immediate play would have been to claim doctor or something? The hell are you supposed to do that dpesnt cause your death the next day? Playing how you are, just denying Scare, is the smartest</quote> Are you kidding? So in this scenario, Scum me claims to have not targeted Chris. I succeed at getting Scare lynched. He flips Jack, and is proven to be Town. Now that we know he was Jack and telling the truth, I am in the EXACT same position that you are all saying he wouldn't put himself in. The most likely explanation to this scenario is that we are both Town and Scare is lying, since that relies on neither of us being abject trash. But since Scare is doubling down, that means he has a plan beyond this. <cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>You already proved yourself to have a power on day 1 when you asserted that town powers are moves...</quote> But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. So not only did I not know vanillas didn't have moves assigned to them (literally until host included Chris's role name), but you are claiming that I proved that on day 1? If you noticed that on day 1, then you have to be vanilla or Scum. So it sounds like Scum, who know that vanillas do not have moves as Role Names but know that powers do, noticed that I clearly had to be power. What do they do with this information? Depends on the roles they have. I'll get to that when I get to my explanation for what Scum's plan likely is, and why Scare IS suiciding.</quote> Well yeah I'm vanilla. I also accidentally proved that day 1 because I didnt see what was wrong with Scare's claim and assumed Chris was trapping scum. It's why Chris told me to shut up >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:34:22 PM #118:	So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913266944] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:35:38 PM #119:	HanOfTheNekos posted... Pirate_Harris posted... Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han? It's a perspective slip. Pirate, do you know that not all power roles have a night action? I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267012] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Did you lay down a sneaky trap card han?</quote> It's a perspective slip. Pirate, do you know that not all power roles have a night action?</quote> I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:35:48 PM #120:	And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267024] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:36:16 PM #121:	And scum knew that too because they had a vanilla --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267051] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>And scum knew that too because they had a vanilla</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:37:51 PM #122:	benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267116] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:38:32 PM #123:	htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. Yeah, try again ben? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267147] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> Yeah, try again ben?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:40:05 PM #124:	htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. I know. And even I, an American, just call him Duck Hunt Dog. But I'm regurgitating what the PM says so today I'm Dunk Hunt --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267242] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> I know. And even I, an American, just call him Duck Hunt Dog. But I'm regurgitating what the PM says so today I'm Dunk Hunt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:40:12 PM #125:	HanOfTheNekos posted... But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. Also... you didnt actually Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267249] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote>But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla.</quote> Also... you didnt actually <quote>Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:40:15 PM #126:	benjamin3740 posted... So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) Pirate_Harris posted... I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc... --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913267253] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum</quote> Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) <cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia</quote> Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:40:48 PM #127:	Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267276] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:40:56 PM #128:	Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. Yeah, try again ben? Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined) --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267286] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> Yeah, try again ben?</quote> Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 11/29/18 6:41:11 PM #129:	htaeD posted... HanOfTheNekos posted... But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla. Also... you didnt actually Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format Well, I clarified after that I forgot to put my role name in parentheses, but I absolutely meant it as vanilla. I'm not even Metal Blade tho :P --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:913267296] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote>But Ben... I did not assert that. I said that all roles were moves. I even claimed to be Metal Blade, Veteran Vanilla.</quote> Also... you didnt actually <quote>Geno, my role is Mega Man, veteran metal Blade. I am asking you to clarify your claim in that format </quote></quote> Well, I clarified after that I forgot to put my role name in parentheses, but I absolutely meant it as vanilla. I'm not even Metal Blade tho :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:41:52 PM #130:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) Pirate_Harris posted... I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc... Bomb? What's that? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267326] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum</quote> Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) <cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia</quote> Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc...</quote> Bomb? What's that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:42:11 PM #131:	Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267340] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:42:14 PM #132:	Pirate_Harris posted... Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267342] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role</quote> There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:43:04 PM #133:	I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267383] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:43:45 PM #134:	htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. Yeah, try again ben? Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined) American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo... --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267409] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> Yeah, try again ben?</quote> Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined)</quote> American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:43:47 PM #135:	benjamin3740 posted... Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time! --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267413] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:45:50 PM #136:	htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic. Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? htaeD posted... I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like Point being? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267519] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role</quote> There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic.</quote> Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? <cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like</quote> Point being?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 11/29/18 6:46:08 PM #137:	Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. Yeah, try again ben? Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined) American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo... I can't believe this is an argument that is even happening but fine, since flavor is so important https://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/tuts/577dadd966585.jpg --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks <cite>hombad46 posted [p:913267531] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> Yeah, try again ben?</quote> Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined)</quote> American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo...</quote> I can't believe this is an argument that is even happening but fine, since flavor is so important https://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/tuts/577dadd966585.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pendragon71037 11/29/18 6:46:31 PM #138:	All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before. --- Welcome to my church: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly_qKAbBjCQ Sometimes I miss the days when I was nostalgic... <cite>Pendragon71037 posted [p:913267553] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:47:59 PM #139:	hombad46 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name. Yeah, try again ben? Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined) American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo... I can't believe this is an argument that is even happening but fine, since flavor is so important https://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/tuts/577dadd966585.jpg Oh it actually does say duck hunt... sorry ben me dumb dumb --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267630] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>hombad46 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And yes I knew you were power as soon as you told Chris "My flavor is a move". Because I do not have any flavor. I am just Duck Hunt, Veteran Vanilla</quote> Psh Duck Hunt Duo is the superior name.</quote> Yeah, try again ben?</quote> Oh no dont misunderstand me. eaed is clearly using the american name (whether it came from a safelist or not has yet to be determined)</quote> American? I looked at the character select screen and it says duck hunt duo...</quote> I can't believe this is an argument that is even happening but fine, since flavor is so important https://files.gamebanana.com/img/ss/tuts/577dadd966585.jpg</quote> Oh it actually does say duck hunt... sorry ben me dumb dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 11/29/18 6:48:07 PM #140:	Pendragon71037 posted... All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before. You can just do what I'm doing and try your best to see if people have sound logic behind their deductions, and ask questions. --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks <cite>hombad46 posted [p:913267636] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pendragon71037 posted...</cite> <quote>All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before.</quote> You can just do what I'm doing and try your best to see if people have sound logic behind their deductions, and ask questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:48:12 PM #141:	HanOfTheNekos posted... benjamin3740 posted... So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) Pirate_Harris posted... I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc... Well I asked you because there are very few roles that visit Chris that people will beleive. You could do Doctor or bodygaurd, but that means people have to assume Chris was strongmanned and you could also be counterclaimed. If I was in the situation I would probably make up a role that no one's ever heard of like Lie Detector or something. I'm only going down this road because it seemed pre-emptive of you to say you'd never be this dumb as scum...so far you'd be managing fine. --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267645] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>So Han, what do you do as scum to avoid getting killed today or tomorrow? You're screwed no matter what if scum</quote> Claim a role. Why don't you do the theorycrafting? If you were Scum, what would you claim in that situation. This hypothetical requires you to actually claim and not just deny, so please, think on it. I would love to hear your answer, Ben :) <cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>I know some roles have a night action and others have a day action... that's the extend of my knowledge on roles in mafia</quote> Some roles are passive. For example: Miller, Godfather, Bulletproof, Bomb, etc...</quote> Well I asked you because there are very few roles that visit Chris that people will beleive. You could do Doctor or bodygaurd, but that means people have to assume Chris was strongmanned and you could also be counterclaimed. If I was in the situation I would probably make up a role that no one's ever heard of like Lie Detector or something. I'm only going down this road because it seemed pre-emptive of you to say you'd never be this dumb as scum...so far you'd be managing fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:50:19 PM #142:	htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time! The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267742] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time!</quote> The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:51:33 PM #143:	benjamin3740 posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time! The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. So does that mean you trust his jack claim? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913267808] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time!</quote> The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. </quote> So does that mean you trust his jack claim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:51:36 PM #144:	Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic. Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? htaeD posted... I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like Point being? Some theories just dont make sense though. Not every game needs a mason. And not every host will pick an obvious choice for one anyway. Also I was just syaing I have to adjust to you not knowing what a bomb is, heh. No offense meant. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913267811] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role</quote> There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic.</quote> Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? <cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like</quote> Point being?</quote> Some theories just dont make sense though. Not every game needs a mason. And not every host will pick an obvious choice for one anyway. Also I was just syaing I have to adjust to you not knowing what a bomb is, heh. No offense meant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:52:38 PM #145:	Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time! The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. So does that mean you trust his jack claim? I'm trying to. EVen though it's one of my own rules to never trust one. I never end up following my own rules --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267873] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time!</quote> The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. </quote> So does that mean you trust his jack claim?</quote> I'm trying to. EVen though it's one of my own rules to never trust one. I never end up following my own rules</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:53:31 PM #146:	And to answer your question Pirate, a bomb typically kills the last person who voted on his lynch. A target bomb gets to pick anyone who voted on the lynch --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913267914] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>And to answer your question Pirate, a bomb typically kills the last person who voted on his lynch. A target bomb gets to pick anyone who voted on the lynch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:56:41 PM #147:	htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... htaeD posted... Pirate_Harris posted... Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic. Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? htaeD posted... I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like Point being? Some theories just dont make sense though. Not every game needs a mason. And not every host will pick an obvious choice for one anyway. Also I was just syaing I have to adjust to you not knowing what a bomb is, heh. No offense meant. It's fine death... I actually never heard that role before. So none taken... In every game I've been in, I have seen mason claims and mason roles... nothing else has been consistently seen other than roleblocker or cop --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913268071] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote>Also wouldn't the duck hunt duo be a mason role, duck hunt dog and duck hunt duck? And your claiming it's a vanilla role</quote> There are so many candidates for masons, and the game has more chances to not even have a mason. Harris, dont go with this logic.</quote> Why not? I'm trying theories like any good mafia player... is it wrong to try death? <cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>I keep forgetting Harris is even newer than Geno and the like</quote> Point being?</quote> Some theories just dont make sense though. Not every game needs a mason. And not every host will pick an obvious choice for one anyway. Also I was just syaing I have to adjust to you not knowing what a bomb is, heh. No offense meant.</quote> It's fine death... I actually never heard that role before. So none taken... In every game I've been in, I have seen mason claims and mason roles... nothing else has been consistently seen other than roleblocker or cop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
benjamin3740 11/29/18 6:58:24 PM #148:	Pendragon71037 posted... All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before. Do you believe Scare's track claim? --- http://misereetcordes.free.fr/images/signature_ben.gif <cite>benjamin3740 posted [p:913268162] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pendragon71037 posted...</cite> <quote>All right, I suppose an explanation is in order. Yes, I haven't posted much this game. That happens a lot- I'm a quiet guy by nature, and I get distracted by other things easily. It's worse than usual in this game because there's so many people I've never played with before, and that's really undercutting my ability to read. Which is why, as Han just pointed out, a lot of my reads on people aren't concrete one way or the other- I don't know what you guys act like when you're Town, or Scum, so I have nothing to compare your current posts to. Also, and this isn't much of a justification, but it's true, I'm busier than I've ever been while playing a mafia game, as I actually have a job now, something that hasn't been true before.</quote> Do you believe Scare's track claim?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirate_Harris 11/29/18 6:58:34 PM #149:	benjamin3740 posted... And to answer your question Pirate, a bomb typically kills the last person who voted on his lynch. A target bomb gets to pick anyone who voted on the lynch So it's like a scarification role? benjamin3740 posted... Pirate_Harris posted... benjamin3740 posted... htaeD posted... benjamin3740 posted... Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time! The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. So does that mean you trust his jack claim? I'm trying to. EVen though it's one of my own rules to never trust one. I never end up following my own rules Be consistent ben... consistency is the name of the game in my town book --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas <cite>Pirate_Harris posted [p:913268170] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>And to answer your question Pirate, a bomb typically kills the last person who voted on his lynch. A target bomb gets to pick anyone who voted on the lynch</quote> So it's like a scarification role? <cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pirate_Harris posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote><cite>benjamin3740 posted...</cite> <quote>Han you're annoying me in the way you did that one game where you were town and FD was scum lawyer and we attacked each other in the final 5. So you're probably Town. You should help me with the town list, and we should probably kill Pen or Lolo</quote> If you know/think scare is scum, you dont let him get away. You were there when he won last time!</quote> The only reason I have to kill him right now is....never trust a jack claim. </quote> So does that mean you trust his jack claim?</quote> I'm trying to. EVen though it's one of my own rules to never trust one. I never end up following my own rules</quote> Be consistent ben... consistency is the name of the game in my town book</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/29/18 6:58:40 PM #150:	Well masons are rarer than both those roles... anyway I need to go for the night. Dont do anything too silly while I am gone. And make sure everyone weighs in. Pendragon, if its too much for you. You may want to replace out. Though I hate to even suggest it. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:913268176] in Smash Ulti... [t:77251954]...</cite> <quote>Well masons are rarer than both those roles... anyway I need to go for the night. Dont do anything too silly while I am gone. And make sure everyone weighs in. Pendragon, if its too much for you. You may want to replace out. Though I hate to even suggest it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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