Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Mafia Topic 5: Or as others call it Smash Brothers for Switch

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If han is scum I think it might be safe to say Pirate is scum he is trying to bus han

Hohohoho... what an exaggeration sultan... I said I was town in my very first post... that ain't a scum pirate even if he had the knowledge of ten mafia players
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Try to get red to claim if I'm scum?

To be fair, you didn't try that hard. You're usually pretty aggressive, and unless I missed the posts, your post to red was along the lines of "Hey Red, will you claim for us?"

benjamin3740 posted...

So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?

The possibility of you being Scum is too high for me to want to consider the alternative you present.

I mean, you claimed Duck Hunt then used it to fakeclaim miller. Choosing Duck Hunt off a safelist just so you have good flavor to fakeclaim Miller sounds EXACTLY like something you would do.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If han is scum I think it might be safe to say Pirate is scum he is trying to bus han

Hohohoho... what an exaggeration sultan... I said I was town in my very first post... that ain't a scum pirate even if he had the knowledge of ten mafia players

Um I've seen you play scum before" hey guys I'm town hey guys what's the most town thing to do hey guy I'm town let me fake claim hey guys I'm town "
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Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum. And no I wont accept Han conspiracy theories where they guessed he was a role that would target chris

Scare was caught scum hard called out by Chris

"Ah man I'm dead no matter what may as well take someone with me."

Makes perfect sense, really.

Also Han had a scum read on Chris, of course he wouldn't BG him. I too was convinced Chris was scum overnight.

You can count me in that pool too... it felt like another weird chris gamble which went south
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Yet you don't belabour scare for not saving chris... are you ok ben? Remember he had a doc save and chris is the biggest scum target...

I was mad at Scare, but at least Scare had other options and each are 1-use. There are excuses there. But Han is claiming an infinite ability and it's his only ability and he DIDNT use it. I've never seen someone do that before.
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benjamin3740 posted...

So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?

Sorry Ben, no. I have Han here dead to rights and I dont want to risk him being the scum jack who has more abilities
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You are literally a bg. He was trying to track who killed chris I think his move makes sense still beacuse a doctor doesnt see who shot the dieing

But a doctor can stop a kill.

Using the track on N1 is the least likely odds of correctly hitting a killer.

ALSO we are forgetting that Scare was the only person whose role was claimed N1, and he wasn't RB'd.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If han is scum I think it might be safe to say Pirate is scum he is trying to bus han

Hohohoho... what an exaggeration sultan... I said I was town in my very first post... that ain't a scum pirate even if he had the knowledge of ten mafia players

Um I've seen you play scum before" hey guys I'm town hey guys what's the most town thing to do hey guy I'm town let me fake claim hey guys I'm town "

Sultan, making fun of me isn't a good look for you... by the way I never claimed at all day 1, and nearly half of today... that's something I wouldn't do at all.
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ScareChan posted...

and I dont want to risk him being the scum jack who has more abilities

oh my god he's literally playing with us now

please can we stop listening to scare?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Yet you don't belabour scare for not saving chris... are you ok ben? Remember he had a doc save and chris is the biggest scum target...

I was mad at Scare, but at least Scare had other options and each are 1-use. There are excuses there. But Han is claiming an infinite ability and it's his only ability and he DIDNT use it. I've never seen someone do that before.

IT'S NOT INFINITE

IT'S A ONE-TIME SUCCESS

WHY WOULD I KILL MYSELF N1 THAT'S DUMB
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Yet you don't belabour scare for not saving chris... are you ok ben? Remember he had a doc save and chris is the biggest scum target...

I was mad at Scare, but at least Scare had other options and each are 1-use. There are excuses there. But Han is claiming an infinite ability and it's his only ability and he DIDNT use it. I've never seen someone do that before.

He thought chris was scum, and i thought so too... considering he had scare 100% scum guaranteed then dives down to an inactive lynch
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It's good that you came now sultan, to defend scare using bens argument... I now wonder if you were bussing with red not the other way around
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Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Because Han is Town and you are scum.

ben, what is it about this guy that you trust?

He doesnt have reason to be making these plays as scum. And no I wont accept Han conspiracy theories where they guessed he was a role that would target chris

Scare was caught scum hard called out by Chris

"Ah man I'm dead no matter what may as well take someone with me."

Makes perfect sense, really.

Also Han had a scum read on Chris, of course he wouldn't BG him. I too was convinced Chris was scum overnight.

Chris is dead now. Scare had no reason to call all this attention to himself. He's been in much...much worse situations before. He just played a game on MU when everyone had him pinpointed as the last scum and a voting mistake caused someone else to accidentally die. Next day he somehow survives multiple days till final 3 and wins.

And yeah whatever it's impossible for me to believe anyone would think Chris is scum yesteerday, but if you thought so too then I guess I'll concede it
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Come on pirate your argument was literally I said I'm town lol
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Can we get some votals by the way
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Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Come on pirate your argument was literally I said I'm town lol

It's a great argument... because no one has bothered to pressure me, considering most of my scum tells is when people pressure me hard, I got to wonder why your trying and failing to prove a falsehood sultan
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm not saying we have any reason to beleive Scare is telling the truth about his actions last night, but I do think there's evidence for him being town

Remember this?

Yeah, what about it?
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benjamin3740 posted...

And yeah whatever it's impossible for me to believe anyone would think Chris is scum yesteerday,

He went from train to train, and landed on an inactive newbie. That's pretty bad.

Also, it's Chris. You can claim to be a great Townreader, but Chris is great at this game. By default, I refuse to Townread him without really good reason.

Actually, somebody said something about Jedi in topic 1 and I want to go look it up before I hop on Witcher for a bit.
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Pirate.... everyone uses that argument it's really not a great argument SIR
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

I doubt that ben, I doubt a lot of things about you, I don't think sultan is town purely because he hasn't done much other than bud red day 1 and coasted nearly all of the day today
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Pirate your logic here is getting more and more contrived
What kind of Master Plan would involved getting guaranteed lynched on day 3
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I know how everyone hates the "if I were scum" statements

but why wouldnt I just claim roleblock and coast until my blocker flips?

if I am scum I literally am choosing instead of coasting to suicide myself

I mean come on
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'm not saying we have any reason to beleive Scare is telling the truth about his actions last night, but I do think there's evidence for him being town

Remember this?

Yeah, what about it?

It's the Chekhovs gun ben...
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Try to get red to claim if I'm scum?

To be fair, you didn't try that hard. You're usually pretty aggressive, and unless I missed the posts, your post to red was along the lines of "Hey Red, will you claim for us?"

benjamin3740 posted...

So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?

The possibility of you being Scum is too high for me to want to consider the alternative you present.

I mean, you claimed Duck Hunt then used it to fakeclaim miller. Choosing Duck Hunt off a safelist just so you have good flavor to fakeclaim Miller sounds EXACTLY like something you would do.

You mean Mason? That was an obvious joke. OBVIOUS. JOKE

Nothing more,. Stop it
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Yet you don't belabour scare for not saving chris... are you ok ben? Remember he had a doc save and chris is the biggest scum target...

I was mad at Scare, but at least Scare had other options and each are 1-use. There are excuses there. But Han is claiming an infinite ability and it's his only ability and he DIDNT use it. I've never seen someone do that before.

IT'S NOT INFINITE

IT'S A ONE-TIME SUCCESS

WHY WOULD I KILL MYSELF N1 THAT'S DUMB

Because it's your job.
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ScareChan posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?

Sorry Ben, no. I have Han here dead to rights and I dont want to risk him being the scum jack who has more abilities

Ehh...
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

So explain scum Han's day 1 without master plans. And then his day 2.
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Why the fuck wouldn't Scare just claimed to have shielded Chris if he was scum?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate your logic here is getting more and more contrived
What kind of Master Plan would involved getting guaranteed lynched on day 3

I named it a master plan because I believe we have caught 3 scum straight up... sultan, ben and scare.... the higher power han predicted this...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Pirate.... everyone uses that argument it's really not a great argument SIR

Yeah bud but I have the trump card that shatters scares Suicide attempt
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Also if the host randomly mixed roles and flavor Jack is just a stupid role to have in the game.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

I doubt that ben, I doubt a lot of things about you, I don't think sultan is town purely because he hasn't done much other than bud red day 1 and coasted nearly all of the day today

Well apparently I;m the only one to correctly read Chris so maybe stop doubting
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Ben thoughts on pirate? Going into today I had a decent feeling about pirate thinking he was town reading today pirates arguments seem very conspiracy therapy and kind of meh his argument against scare really wasnt the best and now he is busing han and pulling the worst argument of I SAID IM TOWN THAT MEANS IM TOWN
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Also if the host randomly mixed roles and flavor Jack is just a stupid role to have in the game.

I thought it was he picked flavor randomly, than came up with roles to go with them.

Anyway, I've made my decision.

##Vote: Han
I shouldn't have let Chris talk me out of it yesterday.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ben thoughts on pirate? Going into today I had a decent feeling about pirate thinking he was town reading today pirates arguments seem very conspiracy therapy and kind of meh his argument against scare really wasnt the best and now he is busing han and pulling the worst argument of I SAID IM TOWN THAT MEANS IM TOWN

Nice capslock sultan... when I said I'm town in the dance with dragons, I made a huge fuss about not having a power and getting frustrated about people calling me scum... look at what you are doing now with this pirate is bussing han argument sultan... it's a bad argument and I suggest that you Change your strategy before you slip so hard
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

I doubt that ben, I doubt a lot of things about you, I don't think sultan is town purely because he hasn't done much other than bud red day 1 and coasted nearly all of the day today

Well apparently I;m the only one to correctly read Chris so maybe stop doubting

I knew chris was town from the very beginning.. I didn't have a bad gut feeling on him and he said that it was the first time that my gut was right... no one compliments me that hard and coming from chris... man that means a lot ben
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Actually, somebody said something about Jedi in topic 1 and I want to go look it up before I hop on Witcher for a bit.

It was actually Ben who said he enjoyed Jedi's presence, but didn't say anything about alignment, so eh.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Try to get red to claim if I'm scum?

To be fair, you didn't try that hard. You're usually pretty aggressive, and unless I missed the posts, your post to red was along the lines of "Hey Red, will you claim for us?"

benjamin3740 posted...

You mean Mason? That was an obvious joke. OBVIOUS. JOKE

Nothing more,. Stop it

Yeah, I'm saying you would have picked a flavor from a fake claim list for the sake of making that joke.

ScareChan posted...

but why wouldnt I just claim roleblock and coast until my blocker flips?

Because then you can't use the roleblock, and with a vanilla being lynched, it's a huge risk for Scum to give up their roleblock, on NIGHT 1, for the sake of making a Jack claim look good.

I was just in a game where I was the RB who sacrificed my RBing for the sake of looking good. We probably would have lost if Corrik's role wasn't so strong. And we were in Music Mafia together, where Tony coasted on a Watcher claim all game, which used up the Scum RB, and even though it went very late, Town still won that game.

Consigning your RB to be not used is a big fucking exchange.

Hbthebattle posted...

Why the fuck wouldn't Scare just claimed to have shielded Chris if he was scum?

Because it doesn't give him a play. If he expects to be lynched because his claim is very obviously fake, then he might as well go out swinging and take down the best Town player remaining.

Hbthebattle posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Also if the host randomly mixed roles and flavor Jack is just a stupid role to have in the game.

I thought it was he picked flavor randomly, than came up with roles to go with them.

Anyway, I've made my decision.

##Vote: Han
I shouldn't have let Chris talk me out of it yesterday.

And I'm going to explain this to you - Chris is wayyyy better than all of us. Towns lose games ALL THE TIME from ignoring Town Chris.

Ignoring Town Chris is not just a bad idea, it is paramount to giving up the game in many circumstances.

Him and I had a big talk about how stupid people are after we both died in Dance With Dragons Mafia and how everyone ignored everything we said.
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Also, HB, you haven't really explained why you think I'm Scum outside of "I dun feel gud about him".

Do you have any real argument there? I'm legitimately curious.
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Sorry I'm really frustrated right now. I freakin wish I was bodyguard so I could be out and have made the right play.

I dont even want to think about whether Han is scum or not. There really are things pointing to him being town, but all of his posts are just annoying me and I'm going off the deep end with all my questioning because half the things he says I dont agree with.

Scare is whatever. I feel like I'm the only one considering both sides. But it's not like I've even landed on a side yet. I'm sure I'll arrive on the right side eventually. So let's just hang in there.

Still want to kill Lolo though -_-
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Doopliss_Power posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

So explain scum Han's day 1 without master plans. And then his day 2.

That's not a master plan, that stuff is easy. In the last game I was scum I got Chris to think I was town for the same thing
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ben thoughts on pirate? Going into today I had a decent feeling about pirate thinking he was town reading today pirates arguments seem very conspiracy therapy and kind of meh his argument against scare really wasnt the best and now he is busing han and pulling the worst argument of I SAID IM TOWN THAT MEANS IM TOWN

Unless his game dramatically improved, he is actually town. He's being helpful and actually genuinely scumhunting and looking for busses, contradictions, and the like. When he was scum he couldnt fake that stuff and came off as the contradictory one when we forced him to.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

I doubt that ben, I doubt a lot of things about you, I don't think sultan is town purely because he hasn't done much other than bud red day 1 and coasted nearly all of the day today

Well apparently I;m the only one to correctly read Chris so maybe stop doubting

I knew chris was town from the very beginning.. I didn't have a bad gut feeling on him and he said that it was the first time that my gut was right... no one compliments me that hard and coming from chris... man that means a lot ben

My bad, I was exaggerating when I said that because of all the people coming out as thinking Chris was scum. I was happy you agreed back on day 1
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benjamin3740 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ben thoughts on pirate? Going into today I had a decent feeling about pirate thinking he was town reading today pirates arguments seem very conspiracy therapy and kind of meh his argument against scare really wasnt the best and now he is busing han and pulling the worst argument of I SAID IM TOWN THAT MEANS IM TOWN

Unless his game dramatically improved, he is actually town. He's being helpful and actually genuinely scumhunting and looking for busses, contradictions, and the like. When he was scum he couldnt fake that stuff and came off as the contradictory one when we forced him to.

Ben I really tried to find reasons to think scare was town, I was questioning his character, the things he did on night 1 and his reactions. I've gone through the same wall all over again... finding nothing that was black and white with scare... scare was in a gray area for me
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

That's even worse why didnt you take a night action as a bg? Why wouldn't you save chris?

I call bullshit

It's part of his master plan sultan. By the way I remember red calling you scum on day 1, are you scum sultan?

There are never. Ever. Ever master plans by scum in mafia. No conspiracy that needs the label "master plan" has ever been real

And no Sultan is town

I doubt that ben, I doubt a lot of things about you, I don't think sultan is town purely because he hasn't done much other than bud red day 1 and coasted nearly all of the day today

Well apparently I;m the only one to correctly read Chris so maybe stop doubting

I knew chris was town from the very beginning.. I didn't have a bad gut feeling on him and he said that it was the first time that my gut was right... no one compliments me that hard and coming from chris... man that means a lot ben

My bad, I was exaggerating when I said that because of all the people coming out as thinking Chris was scum. I was happy you agreed back on day 1

I did think at the eod that chris was displaying scum like tactics by going after an inactive, other than that, I still firmly believed he was town
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##Unvote

Let me do this just so you're aware I'm not very committed to this at the moment
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Trust me Ben, having to deal with Scare's fakeclaim on me is making me wish I was dead and Chris was here because it's fucking aggravating. Especially FD.
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benjamin3740 posted...

##Unvote

Let me do this just so you're aware I'm not very committed to this at the moment

Look ben, I know you're not scum.
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I havent liked like...any of Scare's posts trying to explain to us why Han is scum. You got anything else, Scare?
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ScareChan posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So neither of you, Han and Scare, are interested in letting the other live a night and go for Lolo with me, huh?

Sorry Ben, no. I have Han here dead to rights and I dont want to risk him being the scum jack who has more abilities

Like this. He doesnt seem very dead to rights if you cant convince everyone. And scum jack seems like a random jump in reasoning
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I believe you, when you are not 100% on a scare defence train, your struggling as much as me when it comes to making a decision... right now my mind is going insane considering all the claims and traps that has gone today
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