Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Mafia Topic 5: Or as others call it Smash Brothers for Switch

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He doesn't because it's a fake scan and he's not going to try to give any additional info on the game because he knows he's dead as soon as I flip.

All you're getting out of him is "lynch han rah"

I've provided some additional thoughts, but you'll get my reread of topics 1 and 2 tomorrow and I'll give my reads, neatly tied up with a bow, just so you can ignore them after I'm dead, even though they'll probably all be correct.
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benjamin3740 posted...

I havent liked like...any of Scare's posts trying to explain to us why Han is scum. You got anything else, Scare?

I have my track, its all I need.

and I will be very upset if you guys lynch me over scum that I tracked to the kill
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I honestly hate being town... the paranoia alone is making my fingers shake like crazy, every time I make a post I feel afraid and I need confidence or someone making me feel comfortable to play efficiently... ben I'm scared... please hold me
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So han claims to not have moved. Scare fakes and said death then now is super claiming he saw han at Chirs death. Han says he is a bg didnt move scare says he is a jack and used his watcher. Any real watcher or someone who actually visit Han or chris or Scare speak up now beacuse this is where we need you
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##unvote
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it was my track, I do not have a watch, Sultan
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I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.
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benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Oops, i'm referring to the two at the top of the page
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So you tracked han and what you PM result say? He killed Chris?
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benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Ben would a scum han be this detailed in his posts?
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Pirate_Harris posted...

I honestly hate being town... the paranoia alone is making my fingers shake like crazy, every time I make a post I feel afraid and I need confidence or someone making me feel comfortable to play efficiently... ben I'm scared... please hold me

*holds* it's all good.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

I honestly hate being town... the paranoia alone is making my fingers shake like crazy, every time I make a post I feel afraid and I need confidence or someone making me feel comfortable to play efficiently... ben I'm scared... please hold me

*holds* it's all good.

Thanks man... it feels warm
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So let's take a few steps back say we dont lynch either Scare or Han who would you want to lynch top 2 options from everyone who is around right. now
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So you tracked han and what you PM result say? He killed Chris?

Han visited chris
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, HB, you haven't really explained why you think I'm Scum outside of "I dun feel gud about him".

Do you have any real argument there? I'm legitimately curious.

Because either one of you or scare is scum and assuming he is scum is the harder call
Because you tried to start a train on Chris at the last minute
Because you've lied and been inconsistent (so has scare, but at least he wasn't doing it on day 1 and admitted within the hour)
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Ben would a scum han be this detailed in his posts?

What exactly do you mean by detailed? I do consider him a good player, so he's capable of whatever he wants. But I do think, ignoring all the things from him I dont like or agree with, I have to admit I do see tall the reasons his actions and words can be town, and he has a spark that I like for sure.
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I guess if we're all unovting to cool the situation, then I will as well

##Unvote

But I still dont trust you, Han.
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benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

I dont feel I have to go and case Han when I already have him going to Chris. I used my leverage to basically clear Death today. I am more reserved as I dont want to come off abrasive as I was with doop earliar.

I know you want to persue lolo but today should be about me and Han
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Ben would a scum han be this detailed in his posts?

What exactly do you mean by detailed? I do consider him a good player, so he's capable of whatever he wants. But I do think, ignoring all the things from him I dont like or agree with, I have to admit I do see tall the reasons his actions and words can be town, and he has a spark that I like for sure.

Like does he always make these huge posts full of text? Is that a town thing or a scum thing?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

He doesn't because it's a fake scan and he's not going to try to give any additional info on the game because he knows he's dead as soon as I flip.

To be fair, couldnt his attempt on Death be considered a lot of additional info? Why did he do that and then leave it when Death is a much easier lynch than you?
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No offense Death, I just think that given it was his FIRST claim and all, and given Death's timezeone, it would be easier
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Point against ham why the fuck does a bg come.out the gate and claim vanilla?, why would you feel obligated to claim at all as a bg let alone the first post if the game..
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##unvote: scare

I feel unvoting and trying again is maybe a good democratic solution
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Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Ben would a scum han be this detailed in his posts?

What exactly do you mean by detailed? I do consider him a good player, so he's capable of whatever he wants. But I do think, ignoring all the things from him I dont like or agree with, I have to admit I do see tall the reasons his actions and words can be town, and he has a spark that I like for sure.

Like does he always make these huge posts full of text? Is that a town thing or a scum thing?

It's always more of a town thing coming from anyone. The longer you make a post, the more room there is for error I guess. Thoughts come out more naturally as town. I couldnt really townclear Han just off huge posts though
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benjamin3740 posted...

No offense Death, I just think that given it was his FIRST claim and all, and given Death's timezeone, it would be easier

I stopped Death from claiming info too

as scum why wouldnt I wait for him to full claim first before pulling back?

I saw he was town, I didnt want him to give any extra info to scum
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Han=/= bg I feel like he isnt telling the truth I cant wrap my mind around why as a bg he would want to claim vanilla 1st post of the game it just doenst add up or make any sense
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So let's take a few steps back say we dont lynch either Scare or Han who would you want to lynch top 2 options from everyone who is around right. now

Only from people who are around? You and Pirate. Ben's play today makes me feel better about him, while HB and FD are hard Town reads. I don't feel particularly strongly about either of you, but Towny > neutral

I'd prefer to lynch some people that aren't here over you guys, though.

And I'd like to lynch Scare over anyone.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I mean just looking at those two back to back posts, the effort is clearly within Han and Scare comes off more dry.

Ben would a scum han be this detailed in his posts?

What exactly do you mean by detailed? I do consider him a good player, so he's capable of whatever he wants. But I do think, ignoring all the things from him I dont like or agree with, I have to admit I do see tall the reasons his actions and words can be town, and he has a spark that I like for sure.

Like does he always make these huge posts full of text? Is that a town thing or a scum thing?

It's always more of a town thing coming from anyone. The longer you make a post, the more room there is for error I guess. Thoughts come out more naturally as town. I couldnt really townclear Han just off huge posts though

I agree that it comes naturally as town because they work on limited info, while scum knows a lot more and have to fake knowing that info with claims or tunnelling
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Doopliss_Power posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So let's take a few steps back say we dont lynch either Scare or Han who would you want to lynch top 2 options from everyone who is around right. now

Only from people who are around? You and Pirate. Ben's play today makes me feel better about him, while HB and FD are hard Town reads. I don't feel particularly strongly about either of you, but Towny > neutral

I'd prefer to lynch some people that aren't here over you guys, though.

And I'd like to lynch Scare over anyone.

I meant as I want responses from people who are around should have made that more clear
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han=/= bg I feel like he isnt telling the truth I cant wrap my mind around why as a bg he would want to claim vanilla 1st post of the game it just doenst add up or make any sense

What good is a claimed BG?
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ScareChan posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

No offense Death, I just think that given it was his FIRST claim and all, and given Death's timezeone, it would be easier

I stopped Death from claiming info too

as scum why wouldnt I wait for him to full claim first before pulling back?

I saw he was town, I didnt want him to give any extra info to scum

What exactly from his reactions made you think Death was town anyway?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So let's take a few steps back say we dont lynch either Scare or Han who would you want to lynch top 2 options from everyone who is around right. now

Only from people who are around? You and Pirate. Ben's play today makes me feel better about him, while HB and FD are hard Town reads. I don't feel particularly strongly about either of you, but Towny > neutral

I'd prefer to lynch some people that aren't here over you guys, though.

And I'd like to lynch Scare over anyone.

I meant as I want responses from people who are around should have made that more clear

Ah

geno and...

Lolo, I guess. Again, scum reads are weak this game.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Han=/= bg I feel like he isnt telling the truth I cant wrap my mind around why as a bg he would want to claim vanilla 1st post of the game it just doenst add up or make any sense

What good is a claimed BG?

Why claim at all? Exapshally vanilla out the gate? That seems super odd to me
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Lolo really hasnt done too much. I'm kinda waiting on his move here to convince me. The most notable thing about him was his evil little Chris vote that seemed to come out of nowhere. Chris thought he was guaranteed scum for it
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Doopliss_Power posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So let's take a few steps back say we dont lynch either Scare or Han who would you want to lynch top 2 options from everyone who is around right. now

Only from people who are around? You and Pirate. Ben's play today makes me feel better about him, while HB and FD are hard Town reads. I don't feel particularly strongly about either of you, but Towny > neutral

I'd prefer to lynch some people that aren't here over you guys, though.

And I'd like to lynch Scare over anyone.

Doop, I have a few questions for you.

What did you think about Chris's sudden shift towards Jedi on day 1?

After scare, who else from yesterday would you like to see lynched today?

Can you give me your read on sultan?
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benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

No offense Death, I just think that given it was his FIRST claim and all, and given Death's timezeone, it would be easier

I stopped Death from claiming info too

as scum why wouldnt I wait for him to full claim first before pulling back?

I saw he was town, I didnt want him to give any extra info to scum

What exactly from his reactions made you think Death was town anyway?

his aggression as soon as he came in

its a fire I have not seen in death in a long time and it felt very town to me

if he were scum I think he plays it a lot more cool and knows I am looking for reactions as town.
As town he doesnt know if I am town or scum so he has to nut up hard there
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Scare, please provide three good reasons to make me believe you are town...
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I literally am giving you the scum strongman/assassain/jack

like what the fuck do you want pirate

I am giving you the person who killed chris

jesus
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ScareChan posted...

I literally am giving you the scum strongman/assassain/jack

like what the fuck do you want pirate

I am giving you the person who killed chris

jesus

I'm sorry scare... I'm terrible at deciding anything... you saw how I flipped my votes on the eod day 1... I want to leave a confident vote on someone and then go away
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we have another day

but you keep asking stuff like that and I am literally giving you scum on a silver platter
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bleh
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ScareChan posted...

we have another day

but you keep asking stuff like that and I am literally giving you scum on a silver platter

Ok ok. How about this, if I find anything that han has said to be contradictory, I'll believe you and vote for han.. does that sound good?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Point against ham why the fuck does a bg come.out the gate and claim vanilla?, why would you feel obligated to claim at all as a bg let alone the first post if the game..

Why not?
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I guarentee you by the way that if Chris were here he sides with me

because like FD said, when in doubt you take out the bg here over the jack

and if Han flips town I am dead to rights and you guys lynch me afterwards
(which wont happen, Han is scum but I am giving you game theory here)

lynching Han is always mechanically correct
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Pirate_Harris posted...

ScareChan posted...

we have another day

but you keep asking stuff like that and I am literally giving you scum on a silver platter

Ok ok. How about this, if I find anything that han has said to be contradictory, I'll believe you and vote for han.. does that sound good?

I encourage you to do scum hunting, yes, but I am telling you Han is scum and you need to lynch him
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Hbthebattle posted...

Because either one of you or scare is scum and assuming he is scum is the harder call

How so? He looked kinda meh yesterday, confirmed Town thought he was Scum and only backed off because he thought Scare was playing too poorly to be Scum. Also, this wasn't a reason until today.

Because you tried to start a train on Chris at the last minute

And? Why is that inherently Scummy?

Because you've lied and been inconsistent (so has scare, but at least he wasn't doing it on day 1 and admitted within the hour)

I haven't been inconsistent at all. I claimed vanilla, but I've been completely consistent aside from that.

I mean, it really seems like your suspicion of me boils down to you not being able to fathom me claiming in the first post of the game, finding somebody suspicious, and then Scare's fakeclaim which is understandable.
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ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

ScareChan posted...

we have another day

but you keep asking stuff like that and I am literally giving you scum on a silver platter

Ok ok. How about this, if I find anything that han has said to be contradictory, I'll believe you and vote for han.. does that sound good?

I encourage you to do scum hunting, yes, but I am telling you Han is scum and you need to lynch him

Ok scare, han is scum. Now let me go find some proof.
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ScareChan posted...

I guarentee you by the way that if Chris were here he sides with me

Nah, Chris actually lynches Terra here.

(see I can make stuff up too)

ScareChan posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

ScareChan posted...

we have another day

but you keep asking stuff like that and I am literally giving you scum on a silver platter

Ok ok. How about this, if I find anything that han has said to be contradictory, I'll believe you and vote for han.. does that sound good?

I encourage you to do scum hunting, yes, but I am telling you Han is scum and you need to lynch him

Notice how Scare refuses to Scumhunt.
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I have scum hunted

Geno and Doop connected them to you already and I town cleared Death
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