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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 4:43:57 PM
#102:


Nanis23 posted...
By the way, I kept them off-radar but me and kiraamaya did put porn rallies this match
By amount of upvotes (my rallies)-

r/hentai - 524
r/futanari - 335
r/rule34 - 322
r/hentaibondage - 79
r/ahegao - 74
r/ecchi - 64
r/yuri - 52
r/zelda - 0


Well thats almost certainly match deciding
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The Owner of FF9
12/08/18 4:48:31 PM
#103:


I rallied for Mario on Facebook.

I think I got three votes. Maybe four.
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 4:52:03 PM
#104:


God rallies piss me off. Literally nobody wants them when their bracket is doing well but once their out of prize contention it's time to screw up the contest!

Like people whine about low votals and gamefaqs so insular but the fun in these is correctly gauging gamefaqs strength, not who can rally harder. Ten fuckin hentai threads eugh. It is really is poor sportsmanship
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Safer_777
12/08/18 4:52:38 PM
#105:


Rallies are okay when the character you support wins.
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red sox 777
12/08/18 4:53:50 PM
#106:


Oh wow, just realized we have two premier matchups today. Crono vs. Megaman and Snake vs. Samus! I guess this Zelda domination has dulled the contest a bit, but the matches are only 2 hours away.
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 4:53:57 PM
#107:


Safer_777 posted...
Rallies are okay when the character you support wins.


Well I've been on the wrong end of every damn stupid mini rally this contest. They're always the against the grain pick that nobody had in their bracket too
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Nanis23
12/08/18 4:55:01 PM
#108:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
Well thats almost certainly match deciding

We don't know that
Yes it has 524 upvotes, but how many of them really went to Gamefaqs? how many of them really voted Zelda?
For all we know 90% of them just clicked the picture, fapped, then moved on to the next picture, without entering Gamefaqs to vote at all
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XIII_rocks
12/08/18 4:56:37 PM
#109:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
God rallies piss me off. Literally nobody wants them when their bracket is doing well but once their out of prize contention it's time to screw up the contest!

Like people whine about low votals and gamefaqs so insular but the fun in these is correctly gauging gamefaqs strength, not who can rally harder. Ten fuckin hentai threads eugh. It is really is poor sportsmanship


I'm totally OK with this rally tbh
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 4:56:41 PM
#110:


Nanis23 posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Well thats almost certainly match deciding

We don't know that
Yes it has 524 upvotes, but how many of them really went to Gamefaqs? how many of them really voted Zelda?
For all we know 90% of them just clicked the picture, fapped, then moved on to the next picture, without entering Gamefaqs to vote at all


No need to sell yourself short. Your rallies changed the outcome
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 4:59:13 PM
#111:


XIII_rocks posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
God rallies piss me off. Literally nobody wants them when their bracket is doing well but once their out of prize contention it's time to screw up the contest!

Like people whine about low votals and gamefaqs so insular but the fun in these is correctly gauging gamefaqs strength, not who can rally harder. Ten fuckin hentai threads eugh. It is really is poor sportsmanship


I'm totally OK with this rally tbh


Fair enough if Mario bracketers missing 32 points keeps you in the hunt for $ I guess. Which I think is your situation

I still feel they ruin the fun competitive aspect of the whole thing. Weighing up x stats with subtle site trends, it's almost a sport until rallies just change the outcome

Oh well
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XIII_rocks
12/08/18 5:06:12 PM
#112:


Rallies also have to be factored in. This is contest stats and discussion. Did Nanis not also just post a stat?

I admit the Hentai subreddits being a rally source was something totally unexpected, but that's just a new dimension in the same way you might not anticipate Solid Shit or Zero Suit Samus in the match pic until the night before the match.

Besides, there's no proof this actually changed the outcome. Zelda was close even without it...and sorry to break it to you but rallies have likely played a role in every close match in history. Particularly stuff like Snake/Seph 2006 where Snake dominated the final update to win, when on the previous update there were only two votes in it iirc. 100% Snake swung that with a rally.
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Link versus Cloud
12/08/18 5:07:04 PM
#113:


So it definitely looks like I was off on Pika/MM being around Snake level. Re-ordering my tiers based on today's results.

Tier 0: Link

Lulz no one will even break 40 on him the whole contest.

Tier 1: Zelda>Snake>Mario>Samus + Cloud

Not sure where Cloud fits in, he could be above Zelda or below Samus. We will probably see him face someone from the Snake/Mario/Samus group in the loser's semis though to get a read.

Tier 2: Megaman>Pikachu>Crono

We will be get more information on this order after MM/Crono, but I suspect its MM>Pika>Crono. Its unclear whether Sonic belongs on this level or a tier below. Seemed obvious he was a tier below after Zelda/Sonic, but now after Zelda/Mario it seems like Sonic could possibly compete with these guys.

Tier 3: Sonic>Tifa>X>Luigi>Seph>Bowser>Kirby

Depending on how much SFF was in Tifa/Seph, Seph could possibly still be ahead of Luigi and also possibly (but unlikely) X as well. Alternatively, if there was no SFF, its possible Kirby (who is indirectly stronger than Bowser) could beat Seph. Tifa>Sonic seemed likely before today, but 43 on Zelda looks to be stronger than 41 on Samus now (so much so that Sonic might actually belong on Tier 2, would love to see a MM or Crono vs Sonic bonus poll).
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 5:23:51 PM
#114:


XIII_rocks posted...
Rallies also have to be factored in. This is contest stats and discussion. Did Nanis not also just post a stat?

I admit the Hentai subreddits being a rally source was something totally unexpected, but that's just a new dimension in the same way you might not anticipate Solid Shit or Zero Suit Samus in the match pic until the night before the match.

Besides, there's no proof this actually changed the outcome. Zelda was close even without it...and sorry to break it to you but rallies have likely played a role in every close match in history. Particularly stuff like Snake/Seph 2006 where Snake dominated the final update to win, when on the previous update there were only two votes in it iirc. 100% Snake swung that with a rally.


I mean that's different to ~1500 reddit thread upvotes(combined over ten threads) And surely if you're up voting a thread you're following thru on a Zelda vote. Otherwise you'd down vote or ignore

But whatever I'm just mad coz I've been on the losing end of so many or these mini rallies
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Nanis23
12/08/18 5:24:58 PM
#115:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
God rallies piss me off. Literally nobody wants them when their bracket is doing well but once their out of prize contention it's time to screw up the contest!

Like people whine about low votals and gamefaqs so insular but the fun in these is correctly gauging gamefaqs strength, not who can rally harder. Ten fuckin hentai threads eugh. It is really is poor sportsmanship


I'm totally OK with this rally tbh


Fair enough if Mario bracketers missing 32 points keeps you in the hunt for $ I guess. Which I think is your situation

I still feel they ruin the fun competitive aspect of the whole thing. Weighing up x stats, past history, subtle site trends, old vs new, square vs Nintendo. it's almost a sport until rallies just change the outcome

Oh well

I dunno
I put them 9 hours after the match started...Zelda was leading by 100 legit
She struggled a bit to keep the lead overnight and after the rallies she started to increase to around 180...but it could be trends too

She could have won without porn rallies too imo, we will have to wait to see the spread
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_SecretSquirrel
12/08/18 5:26:13 PM
#116:


Pics are up, but I dont have time to find all the URLs, so heres the format.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/mega-f-ulti-5.png

Well, I did find one more pic, and it is notable.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/samus-f-ulti-5.png
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INTERWEBUSER
12/08/18 5:28:08 PM
#117:


haloiscoolisbak posted...

Fair enough if Mario bracketers missing 32 points keeps you in the hunt for $ I guess. Which I think is your situation

To my knowledge he's not prize eligible.

Nanis23 posted...
By the way, I kept them off-radar but me and kiraamaya did put porn rallies this match
By amount of upvotes (my rallies)-

r/hentai - 524
r/futanari - 335
r/rule34 - 322
r/hentaibondage - 79
r/ahegao - 74
r/ecchi - 64
r/yuri - 52
r/zelda - 0

Good lord this is fucking pathetic.
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INTERWEBUSER
12/08/18 5:33:57 PM
#118:


Nanis23 posted...

We don't know that
Yes it has 524 upvotes, but how many of them really went to Gamefaqs? how many of them really voted Zelda?
For all we know 90% of them just clicked the picture, fapped, then moved on to the next picture, without entering Gamefaqs to vote at all

It's obviously making an impact. Why did formerly mid- to upper-tier female characters suddenly explode in popularity this contest, with all except Zelda without recent popular games to support such a massive boost? It's not as if all of GF suddenly joined Me Too. It's losers like you who are distorting the results at everyone else's expense.
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Safer_777
12/08/18 5:34:09 PM
#119:


Will Zelda's winning percentage will be the lowest of the contest???
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ShatteredElysium
12/08/18 5:37:14 PM
#120:


Zelda winning today will save my bracket but Zelda beating Snake also fucked my bracket out of like the Top 5 in the first place probably so...
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OrangeCrush980
12/08/18 5:40:27 PM
#121:


In retrospect, it might've been better for Zelda if she lost this match. Then she'd get to clown more Noble Niners and gain some more bandwagon power before fighting Link.
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KamikazePotato
12/08/18 5:43:28 PM
#122:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
And surely if you're up voting a thread you're following thru on a Zelda vote. Otherwise you'd down vote or ignore

This is super inaccurate. All those threads have images attached to them - you click on the thread, it pulls up the image. You have to scroll down to the comments section to find a different link if you want to go to GameFAQs, and that's assuming you care about the contest match in the first place - the vast majority of the people there just want to look at the attached image, the title of the reddit thread itself might as well be filler text. I think you're grossly overestimating how many people are upvoting those links for GameFAQs instead of porn. The Reddit->GameFAQs crossover rate is probably around 10% of the people who upvote and I'm not exaggerating. Remove all the rallies and Zelda wins anyway. It's not a close enough result to swing things.
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haloiscoolisbak
12/08/18 5:49:36 PM
#123:


KamikazePotato posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
And surely if you're up voting a thread you're following thru on a Zelda vote. Otherwise you'd down vote or ignore

This is super inaccurate. All those threads have images attached to them - you click on the thread, it pulls up the image. You have to scroll down to the comments section to find a different link if you want to go to GameFAQs, and that's assuming you care about the contest match in the first place - the vast majority of the people there just want to look at the attached image, the title of the reddit thread itself might as well be filler text. I think you're grossly overestimating how many people are upvoting those links for GameFAQs instead of porn. The Reddit->GameFAQs crossover rate is probably around 10% of the people who upvote and I'm not exaggerating. Remove all the rallies and Zelda wins anyway. It's not a close enough result to swing things.


Well that's honestly comforting.
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/08/18 5:50:20 PM
#124:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Remember how I said Mega Man's win over Pikachu set a new record for smallest max lead by a character who never trailed, and how Pikachu's earlier win over Mega Man was the 24-hour record for smallest max lead by either side?

Yeah, this match could challenge both records. I don't foresee Zelda's lead ever exceeding Mega's max from his win so that record should be hers unless Mario actually takes the lead at some point. The max lead by either side in Pikachu's win was 237, which is still in Zelda's reach but her lead hasn't been in the 200s since midnight.


... Yeah I suck at predicting things.
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Safer_777
12/08/18 5:56:42 PM
#125:


There are porn rallies man. You couldn't predict that.
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Ilishe
12/08/18 6:12:46 PM
#126:


Link vs Zelda final

Disgusting. Heh.
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/08/18 6:22:07 PM
#127:


Safer_777 posted...
There are porn rallies man. You couldn't predict that.


Ah, the rallies came after I posted that? I did notice the shift in the updater.

This is hilarious though. I hope Zelda goes all the way (no pun intended) and beats Link. I don't think it will happen but the very fact that I feel that the chances of it aren't zero is what makes this contest so amazing.
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Ytterbicide
12/08/18 6:22:52 PM
#128:


Zelda beating Link's ass would redeem the contest for me
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LiquidOshawott
12/08/18 6:24:10 PM
#129:


Well these next two matches will answer a lot of questions regarding the pecking order in the noble nine
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tgs2
12/08/18 6:37:14 PM
#130:


Zelda/Link could be fun just for the battle between Chloe and Draven. All this time we thought Draven had last place locked up in the raw stats, and then a challenger approaches out of nowhere.
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SlugSh0t
12/08/18 6:57:30 PM
#131:


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NowItsAngeTime
12/08/18 7:01:16 PM
#132:


Hm so Crono, Pikachu and Mega Man are about the same strength now?
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Haste_2
12/08/18 7:02:44 PM
#133:


Funny how the board vote almost exactly matched the expected final percentages...
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_SecretSquirrel
12/08/18 7:02:46 PM
#134:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
Hm so Crono, Pikachu and Mega Man are about the same strength now?

Crono was pretty much equal to the rat in 2013, so this isnt too surprising.
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ShatteredElysium
12/08/18 7:03:36 PM
#135:


So I don't know how many people vote on mobile but errr Snake has an absolutely massive pic disadvantage on mobile one account of it cropping the photos down and it cuts off his head
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NowItsAngeTime
12/08/18 7:03:49 PM
#136:


Also I guss people are ok with Samus as ZSS now?
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12/08/18 7:05:26 PM
#137:


ShatteredElysium posted...
So I don't know how many people vote on mobile but errr Snake has an absolutely massive pic disadvantage on mobile one account of it cropping the photos down and it cuts off his head

of course this is intentional seeing as this site's administration is run by nintendo fanboys
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Jman_maximum
12/08/18 7:05:37 PM
#138:


Megaman tends to drop a lot after the first few hours. Crono managed to prevent bleeding percentage to Bowser on both matches almost entirely.

based on trends i think Megaman needs to have a decent lead going into the europe vote to win.
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ShatteredElysium
12/08/18 7:05:56 PM
#139:


ShatteredElysium posted...
So I don't know how many people vote on mobile but errr Snake has an absolutely massive pic disadvantage on mobile one account of it cropping the photos down and it cuts off his head


For reference

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_SecretSquirrel
12/08/18 7:06:37 PM
#140:


Jman_maximum posted...
Megaman tends to drop a lot after the first few hours. Crono managed to prevent bleeding percentage to Bowser on both matches almost entirely.

based on trends i think Megaman needs to have a decent lead going into the europe vote to win.

With these two characters, we might see the match lose votes in Europe.
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LusterSoldier
12/08/18 7:07:20 PM
#141:


NowItsAngeTime posted...
Also I guss people are ok with Samus as ZSS now?


Guess this match shows that ZSS doesn't seem to hurt Samus anymore. In 2006, it hurt Samus because ZSS was revealed not too long before her match with Tifa, so few people were familiar with the ZSS design.
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garetha200
12/08/18 7:07:22 PM
#142:


MM > Cloud seems very dead
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SlugSh0t
12/08/18 7:08:05 PM
#143:


garetha200 posted...
MM > Cloud seems very dead

should have never been a thing. MM is just overrated on this board.
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red sox 777
12/08/18 7:08:07 PM
#144:


Hmm......I think this is okay going off how Crono rose a lot against Bowser and MM being worse in Europe than Crono now. Next update will be telling.
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Lopen
12/08/18 7:08:10 PM
#145:


Headless Snake vs ZSS huh
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tennisboy213
12/08/18 7:09:05 PM
#146:


Lopen posted...
Headless Snake vs ZSS huh

at least it's fair
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ShatteredElysium
12/08/18 7:09:36 PM
#147:


I don't think ZSS is even detrimental anymore
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garetha200
12/08/18 7:09:52 PM
#148:


SlugSh0t posted...
garetha200 posted...
MM > Cloud seems very dead

should have never been a thing. MM is just overrated on this board.

Yeah of course but this was its official nail in the coffin

Could see Cloud in the low 50s though (assuming that match happens)
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OrangeCrush980
12/08/18 7:10:16 PM
#149:


Wrong way Snake!
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SlugSh0t
12/08/18 7:10:18 PM
#150:


poor snake..
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KamikazePotato
12/08/18 7:10:31 PM
#151:


MFTKcnL

Does look a bit wonky.
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