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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:52:59 PM
#301:


yeah that chris response felt off but I also don't like how quickly he got votes
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:53:02 PM
#302:


Camarija posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris


Well you're literally never scum here.


Apologies DoomTheGyarados, was this facetious?


You may call me Chris, and no need to apologize. Not at all! Scum Tom getting Town Chris to look at him for more than one second seems the thing he would literally do least in the entire world of mafia play.

Corrik if I only have one bad read early day 1 we're in for a very long game for scum. Well, until they strongman me because strongman is in every game because FUCK BOARD 8 META but whatever you know.
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:53:13 PM
#303:


Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games


That's probably an unfair standard

What's the phrase?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't?

All I see is hyper engagement and that's normally Town points in my books


This is somewhat a joke because my "good authority" is Ben saying that about himself.

Which, admittedly, is not a great look to be preemptively defensive about it
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:53:33 PM
#304:


Um, Puns? What is weak about anything I've said?
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Lopen
06/18/19 10:53:48 PM
#305:


benjamin3740 posted...
Don't you know all roles do that or is this a joke?


I've made it to the big time now.
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:54:20 PM
#306:


Lopen posted...
big time


but are you SO MUCH LARGER THAN LIFE~~~
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:54:42 PM
#307:


benjamin3740 posted...
Also im very aware im playing more like my excited scum self this game than I have the past few. Ignore it! Please
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:54:48 PM
#308:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
##vote: Ben

Two red flags:

1. His use of the Ben List felt a little sardonic in how over the top it was. I know as town Ben loves that list with all his heart, but as scum he kind of goes a bit silly with it like he did here.

2. In post 156 he says he was lynched for lower than expected activity but was town every time. I think charm and content is different from the activity level that was being expressed as concerning there.

I like Lea because I wasn't liking Ben to that point either.

Luis I have a lean town on because I feel like he is going to his wheelhouse that has served him well as a flavor meta maniac, not that I think that's particularly wise (role meta in terms of hosts is always a much stronger attempt to gain an advantage but he likes his fun)

Tom asked me a question. Neat. Lean scum on Corrik, lean town on Ulti. Corrik has been a bit too zany in the early game for my liking and Ulti seems relaxed in a "I am not being sneaky" sort of way.
I won't deny im in a silly mood. Im still serious about both Puns and HB at this point though.

The warning was for tomorrow when im at work and you're all gonna be like "Where's Ben he hasn't posted in 18 hours".
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HanOfTheNekos
06/18/19 10:55:00 PM
#309:


Votals (as of post #300)

(3) Sir Chris: Tom, Ben, puns
(2) Ben: Chris, Corrik
(1) No Lynch: pezloco, (Tom), (Lopen)
(1) MZero: Lea
(1) Ulti: (Lopen), Hb
(1) Lopen: Ulti
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti)


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MZero11
06/18/19 10:55:01 PM
#310:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
You may call me Chris, and no need to apologize. Not at all! Scum Tom getting Town Chris to look at him for more than one second seems the thing he would literally do least in the entire world of mafia play.


How do you feel about Tom's other posts though? Like his post asking every player a question
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MZero11
06/18/19 10:56:14 PM
#311:


Tom Bombadil posted...
yeah that chris response felt off but I also don't like how quickly he got votes


kind of agree but also would scum but extend that far this early against literal Chris? Seems suicidal
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:56:18 PM
#312:


I learned my lesson when I got heat last game for too many ****posts
and ignored it this game to make just as many jokes
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:56:19 PM
#313:


Corrik7 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
##vote: Ben

Two red flags:

1. His use of the Ben List felt a little sardonic in how over the top it was. I know as town Ben loves that list with all his heart, but as scum he kind of goes a bit silly with it like he did here.

2. In post 156 he says he was lynched for lower than expected activity but was town every time. I think charm and content is different from the activity level that was being expressed as concerning there.

I like Lea because I wasn't liking Ben to that point either.

Luis I have a lean town on because I feel like he is going to his wheelhouse that has served him well as a flavor meta maniac, not that I think that's particularly wise (role meta in terms of hosts is always a much stronger attempt to gain an advantage but he likes his fun)

Tom asked me a question. Neat. Lean scum on Corrik, lean town on Ulti. Corrik has been a bit too zany in the early game for my liking and Ulti seems relaxed in a "I am not being sneaky" sort of way.

Choo choo. I know you are good for one bad read to start the game. That is on me. But, that makes your Ben read likelier.

Choo choo

##unvote:
##vote: Ben

Or other way around OH SNAP
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:56:19 PM
#314:


If it makes you feel better I work 8:30am to 10:00pm tomorrow as it is talk show day so I assure you I will not be asking that.

Anyway HB logic is pretty weak and from my memory of HB's game if he has a safe list with a character on it (not a leap) then it is easy to inflect that into your reasoning. Doesn't have to be the case but to go to extremes is a bit much.
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:57:10 PM
#315:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Camarija posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris


Well you're literally never scum here.


Apologies DoomTheGyarados, was this facetious?


You may call me Chris, and no need to apologize. Not at all! Scum Tom getting Town Chris to look at him for more than one second seems the thing he would literally do least in the entire world of mafia play.

Corrik if I only have one bad read early day 1 we're in for a very long game for scum. Well, until they strongman me because strongman is in every game because FUCK BOARD 8 META but whatever you know.


In this case, I believe your choice to not get yourself wrapped up in an OMGUS (Oh My God You Suck) type battle is wise and looks good for you in general

Instead of getting down in the dirt of general argumentation you choose calmer minds prevail

I like your conclusion on Tom Bombadil being Town

Not that I necessarily Town read them, but because it feels that you respect Tom's logic/paranoia as being genuine, and give a positive read in conclusion

I'll have you as Town
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:57:12 PM
#316:


MZero11 posted...
kind of agree but also would scum but extend that far this early against literal Chris? Seems suicidal


on one hand yeah but on the other how tempting would a chris d1 mislynch be if you're feeling cheeky
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:57:32 PM
#317:


MZero11 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
You may call me Chris, and no need to apologize. Not at all! Scum Tom getting Town Chris to look at him for more than one second seems the thing he would literally do least in the entire world of mafia play.


How do you feel about Tom's other posts though? Like his post asking every player a question


Rather harmless really. Nothing wrong with asking questions in a vacuum. At least mine, I didn't read them all, he was seeking information which is a good thing.
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pezloco
06/18/19 10:58:11 PM
#318:


@DoomTheGyarados you're here!

So, I wanted Chris here for this because I knew he'd appreciate it.

Guys we might actually have a third party this game. It ballooned up to 20 after Han had it set for 17. The increased size and having to adjust a premade game, make me think we might actually have a SK!

I love the concept of third party stuff, gives us more to puzzle over as the game progresses. You know provided they don't have ALL the powers at once.
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:58:42 PM
#319:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
If it makes you feel better I work 8:30am to 10:00pm tomorrow as it is talk show day so I assure you I will not be asking that.

Anyway HB logic is pretty weak and from my memory of HB's game if he has a safe list with a character on it (not a leap) then it is easy to inflect that into your reasoning. Doesn't have to be the case but to go to extremes is a bit much.

That's how you know he's really confirmed town - when people call the reasoning weak. Happens every time
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:58:51 PM
#320:


pezloco posted...
You know provided they don't have ALL the powers at once.


stop making me google that one jack o'neill pic
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:59:11 PM
#321:


I find it odd Tom you believe that it is off that I think scum tom would piss his pants at the thought of challenging town chris super early.

You are a good man Tom, but meek. You would only vote for me in such a fashion if you had the protection of a town role PM to back your bravery.
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 10:59:51 PM
#322:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Um, Puns? What is weak about anything I've said?


Too zoned in on a particular player as the main emphasis.
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 11:00:20 PM
#324:


I think you are right (I am a bit biased) I just expected to have seen cranky and/or confident chris by now

because y'know people's personalities never change in the span of like four years
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:00:27 PM
#325:


turbopuns3 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Um, Puns? What is weak about anything I've said?


Too zoned in on a particular player as the main emphasis.


You realize I have already commented on 5 players, right?
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pezloco
06/18/19 11:00:42 PM
#326:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Well, until they strongman me because strongman is in every game because FUCK BOARD 8 META but whatever you know.


I know of one game you took the assassin shot and didn't die...
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Camarija
06/18/19 11:01:01 PM
#327:


Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games


That's probably an unfair standard

What's the phrase?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't?

All I see is hyper engagement and that's normally Town points in my books


This is somewhat a joke because my "good authority" is Ben saying that about himself.

Which, admittedly, is not a great look to be preemptively defensive about it


You seem self aware, and I'm not certain if that implies self-conscious

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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 11:01:10 PM
#328:


Tom Bombadil posted...
stop making me google that one jack o'neill pic

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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:01:12 PM
#329:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I think you are right (I am a bit biased) I just expected to have seen cranky and/or confident chris by now

because y'know people's personalities never change in the span of like four years


I think you may be mistaking my old bravado for confidence, friend. I am feeling supremely confident.
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 11:01:30 PM
#330:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Um, Puns? What is weak about anything I've said?


Too zoned in on a particular player as the main emphasis.


You realize I have already commented on 5 players, right?


You realize I am only judging you based on 1 post.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:01:31 PM
#331:


pezloco posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Well, until they strongman me because strongman is in every game because FUCK BOARD 8 META but whatever you know.


I know of one game you took the assassin shot and didn't die...


^_^
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 11:01:31 PM
#332:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Puns is so town. Scum Puns ain't jumping on a Chris train day one.

Also a literal Chris train, what year is this?


Why do you think Chris is Town?
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 11:02:03 PM
#333:


dowolf posted...
benjamin3740 posted...

I feel the levels of shady run a little deeper than that, but we'll see. Honestly it depends on why you think there are no millers, and that can wait.

why?

as in, why can it wait?

If anyone hints a power role, I assume they are town first and that their claim can wait until they find it best to reveal. Of course that's all circumstantial.
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MZero11
06/18/19 11:02:03 PM
#334:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Puns is so town. Scum Puns ain't jumping on a Chris train day one.

Also a literal Chris train, what year is this?


We had one like last year I think but he got saved by a Mayor (and I think shot N1 afterwards lol)

I think it was a Suprak game
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 11:02:16 PM
#335:


Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games


That's probably an unfair standard

What's the phrase?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't?

All I see is hyper engagement and that's normally Town points in my books


This is somewhat a joke because my "good authority" is Ben saying that about himself.

Which, admittedly, is not a great look to be preemptively defensive about it


You seem self aware, and I'm not certain if that implies self-conscious

##VOTE Lea3Lea


What am I self aware about? Ben is the one being preemptively defensive in my quote.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:02:24 PM
#336:


turbopuns3 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Um, Puns? What is weak about anything I've said?


Too zoned in on a particular player as the main emphasis.


You realize I have already commented on 5 players, right?


You realize I am only judging you based on 1 post.


Stop playing bad on purpose to avoid a night kill please, you don't have to worry about that before I am dead so please calm down.
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 11:02:48 PM
#337:


Ulti for the record

I would a absolutely jump at the opportunity to bus Chris if we were scum together

Nothing at all holding me back from that
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 11:02:52 PM
#338:


Tom Bombadil posted...
yeah that chris response felt off but I also don't like how quickly he got votes

Which one felt off?
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 11:03:10 PM
#339:


turbopuns3 posted...
Ulti for the record

I would a absolutely jump at the opportunity to bus Chris if we were scum together

Nothing at all holding me back from that


This is what I was getting at, yes
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 11:03:25 PM
#340:


benjamin3740 posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
yeah that chris response felt off but I also don't like how quickly he got votes

Which one felt off?


his not having a stronger emotional response to my vote than "oh tom is town"
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:03:29 PM
#341:


Oh man I lost my 8 year streak of not being lynched last month when in final 3 of a game I had replaced in and murdered three scum the town guy voted me before I could even say anything. It was the most insane thing ever.
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pezloco
06/18/19 11:03:39 PM
#342:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I learned my lesson when I got heat last game for too many ****posts
and ignored it this game to make just as many jokes


IMO, you're making the same amount of jokes, but you're less fluffy. In particular your posts are more carefree. This means that the content you're giving is more genuine. You're way less hesitant so far compared to last game.
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 11:04:01 PM
#343:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Stop playing bad on purpose


Ok no, you can't act like I do that

I've literally never done that so this comment is 100% unfounded
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:04:05 PM
#344:


turbopuns3 posted...
Ulti for the record

I would a absolutely jump at the opportunity to bus Chris if we were scum together

Nothing at all holding me back from that


I am a little worried about this comment because I know this is not true, as I would emotionally abuse you until you stopped <_<
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Lopen
06/18/19 11:04:41 PM
#345:


Vote: Carmarija

Lea said I was funny and well...

You're a Basham.

Sorry.
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 11:04:57 PM
#346:


MZero11 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
You may call me Chris, and no need to apologize. Not at all! Scum Tom getting Town Chris to look at him for more than one second seems the thing he would literally do least in the entire world of mafia play.


How do you feel about Tom's other posts though? Like his post asking every player a question

Question seems irrelevant. Do you think Chris' reason for liking Tom is not enough?
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Camarija
06/18/19 11:05:05 PM
#347:


Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games


That's probably an unfair standard

What's the phrase?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't?

All I see is hyper engagement and that's normally Town points in my books


This is somewhat a joke because my "good authority" is Ben saying that about himself.

Which, admittedly, is not a great look to be preemptively defensive about it


You seem self aware, and I'm not certain if that implies self-conscious

##VOTE Lea3Lea


What am I self aware about? Ben is the one being preemptively defensive in my quote.


When I said you were holding Ben to an unfair standard, perhaps you felt the need to respond to defend your position in the argument, rather than rally aid to your read
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 11:05:06 PM
#348:


turbopuns3 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Stop playing bad on purpose


Ok no, you can't act like I do that

I've literally never done that so this comment is 100% unfounded


Chris is having some memories of really "slow starts" that then unfolded into better games starting day 2.

Or if you insist, then how about you just stop being myopic on one post as that's really unsound.
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Lopen
06/18/19 11:05:16 PM
#349:


##Vote: Carmarija

(Do I actually need those ##s or what)
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 11:05:33 PM
#350:


pezloco posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
I learned my lesson when I got heat last game for too many ****posts
and ignored it this game to make just as many jokes


IMO, you're making the same amount of jokes, but you're less fluffy. In particular your posts are more carefree. This means that the content you're giving is more genuine. You're way less hesitant so far compared to last game.


see I thought I was really doing a good job of faking all of that last game so I don't see a ton of difference in my own play

but I guess if we knew and could fake our own tells we'd all be better players
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