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Camarija
06/18/19 10:36:11 PM
#251:


Benjamin = Town

By the way

Thanks for the engagement mate

Feels like you're searching for something, not stirring the pot
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:36:26 PM
#252:


Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:36:56 PM
#253:


Let's just all lynch Mzero, that's infinity + EV. He's literally never been town aside from the last game, but I wasn't in it so does it really count?
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:37:15 PM
#254:


Camarija posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Camarija posted...
Page 7 and dudes still talking about Puns miller claim

lol

Is there anything worth reading then?

Also Hi, I'm Camarija

I'm Town Opera Singer

Each night I can sing opera

What was your immediate reaction to it anyway?


That I don't care

It seems to be a common opener in the games I've played here, in my limited memory

I won't touch the claim until something suggests puns actually is Mafia

Good. Because he's town. Let's carry on
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MZero11
06/18/19 10:38:01 PM
#255:


Lea3Lea posted...
MZero11 posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
And you're apparently posting just to hear yourself type instead of scum hunting. Like, not even the slightest little bit of trying to figure out Ulti's alignment based on that? Literally just asking rhetorical questions


if you're going to attack me based on asking a rhetorical question in the first 15 minutes of the game then "ok"


I mean, it's the start of day one, are you really gonna play the "offended by someone not having an iron clad argument on you" card? I wanted to see how you'd react, or if all your posts would just be answering direct questions I ask, and I'm unimpressed on both counts.


I'm not offended, I just don't think going back and forth about it would have any benefit so I'm not going to keep talking about it!
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Corrik7
06/18/19 10:38:10 PM
#256:


benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:38:26 PM
#257:


turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

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##Vote: Chris

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MZero11
06/18/19 10:38:37 PM
#258:


Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(
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Lopen
06/18/19 10:38:44 PM
#259:


Submitting to Gambler's Fallacy is -EV
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:38:49 PM
#260:


MZero11 posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
MZero11 posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
And you're apparently posting just to hear yourself type instead of scum hunting. Like, not even the slightest little bit of trying to figure out Ulti's alignment based on that? Literally just asking rhetorical questions


if you're going to attack me based on asking a rhetorical question in the first 15 minutes of the game then "ok"


I mean, it's the start of day one, are you really gonna play the "offended by someone not having an iron clad argument on you" card? I wanted to see how you'd react, or if all your posts would just be answering direct questions I ask, and I'm unimpressed on both counts.


I'm not offended, I just don't think going back and forth about it would have any benefit so I'm not going to keep talking about it!


What would you rather talk about?
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MZero11
06/18/19 10:39:38 PM
#261:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.


I mean that's why I claimed Miller first post last game so
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:40:04 PM
#262:


Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.


I felt it was a power play from Puns

On speculation either classic wolf gambit, or town gambit?

I don't really believe the claim to be honest, maybe he's shutting down Mafia gambits early by claiming miller hard and fast?

Possibly fishing out the real miller to be mason-ish with them?

I dunno, just tinfoils
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Hbthebattle
06/18/19 10:40:44 PM
#263:


Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.

If you know he is town power, why are you exposing him to get shot at night at scum? Assuming he isn't scum lying about being miller or really miller.
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Lopen
06/18/19 10:41:02 PM
#264:


Tom Bombadil posted...
and the ulti policy lynch already died


No it didn't dammit

My role lets me reassign my vote as many times per day as I like
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:41:13 PM
#265:


Camarija posted...
Benjamin = Town

By the way

Thanks for the engagement mate

Feels like you're searching for something, not stirring the pot

Thank you for recognizing my townliness. But unfortunately you've activated MY TRAP CARD. The breadcrumb trail led you to a house and right into my oven. You see - the very first person to call me town in a game is very often scum. It's just a pattern I notice. So we can't be town buds. We are cursed to walk this road as enemies. You can still call me town though. It'll make for a nice dramatic and sad story of one-sided love
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:41:13 PM
#266:


MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there
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Corrik7
06/18/19 10:41:58 PM
#267:


Hbthebattle posted...
Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.

If you know he is town power, why are you exposing him to get shot at night at scum? Assuming he isn't scum lying about being miller or really miller.

I said he was town and carry on when he let it soft slip. Ben said I was being shady due to it, so I felt obliged to explain.
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:42:00 PM
#268:


Also im very aware im playing more like my excited scum self this game than I have the past few. Ignore it! Please
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HanOfTheNekos
06/18/19 10:42:07 PM
#269:


Votals (as of post #266)

(1) No Lynch: pezloco, (Tom), (Lopen)
(1) MZero: Lea
(1) Puns: (Lea), Corrik, (Ulti)
(1) Ulti: (Lopen), Hb
(1) Lopen: Ulti
(1) Sir Chris: Tom

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Lopen
06/18/19 10:42:31 PM
#270:


I support lynching a Basham Bro every time
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Hbthebattle
06/18/19 10:42:32 PM
#271:


benjamin3740 posted...
Camarija posted...
Benjamin = Town

By the way

Thanks for the engagement mate

Feels like you're searching for something, not stirring the pot

Thank you for recognizing my townliness. But unfortunately you've activated MY TRAP CARD. The breadcrumb trail led you to a house and right into my oven. You see - the very first person to call me town in a game is very often scum. It's just a pattern I notice. So we can't be town buds. We are cursed to walk this road as enemies. You can still call me town though. It'll make for a nice dramatic and sad story of one-sided love

Objection! You can't use trap cards because Yugioh is neither English nor Literature. I'm gonna have to give you a penalty.
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:42:48 PM
#272:


benjamin3740 posted...
Camarija posted...
Benjamin = Town

By the way

Thanks for the engagement mate

Feels like you're searching for something, not stirring the pot

Thank you for recognizing my townliness. But unfortunately you've activated MY TRAP CARD. The breadcrumb trail led you to a house and right into my oven. You see - the very first person to call me town in a game is very often scum. It's just a pattern I notice. So we can't be town buds. We are cursed to walk this road as enemies. You can still call me town though. It'll make for a nice dramatic and sad story of one-sided love


Healthy paranoia is good

I'm not trying to pocket you though

Just calling it like I see it

Keeping the game in front of me and all
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:43:39 PM
#273:


Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:44:26 PM
#274:


Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.

Yeah but why did you not consider that till now? You said it yourself, you went super on the offensive to try and break the ruse.
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:44:42 PM
#275:


Corrik7 posted...
You aren't reading my posts.


no u
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:45:06 PM
#276:


Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!


Do you normally open with wolf theater that hard and fast?

I normally see wolf theater mid game

This doesn't feel like pillow fights, it feels like you've got a bone to pick and MKZero is trying to swat the annoying rhetoric

So yeah, it feels never Mafia/Mafia
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pezloco
06/18/19 10:45:33 PM
#277:


Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris


@DoomTheGyarados I want to see this.

Of those two (Puns/Corrik), I think I like Puns better. Corrik is a bit of a null tell because this is very similar to how he opened last game. Take from that what you will. I stand by the fact that I can't take anything Corrik or Ulti says seriously.

Speaking of Ulti though, I'm actually suspicious of him. He's disappeared. His posts so far are so different from last game. He got the big warning. Half the stuff in the rules is practically directed at him. So, I'll leave it for now.
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 10:45:39 PM
#278:


At this moment I buy corrik, fwiw
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:45:50 PM
#279:


Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris

I like do something dumb.

##Vote: Sir Chris
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:45:51 PM
#280:


Lopen posted...
I support lynching a Basham Bro every time


nah
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Hbthebattle
06/18/19 10:46:03 PM
#281:


Camarija posted...
wolf theater

Cam what exactly is this, remember not everyone is familiar with your terminology.
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Corrik7
06/18/19 10:46:19 PM
#282:


benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.

Yeah but why did you not consider that till now? You said it yourself, you went super on the offensive to try and break the ruse.

I don't care what his ploy was until he made it clear he wasn't scum. The ruse is easy for scum just as it is as town. His alignment is more important.
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:47:20 PM
#283:


Lopen posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
and the ulti policy lynch already died


No it didn't dammit

My role lets me reassign my vote as many times per day as I like

Don't you know all roles do that or is this a joke?
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Tom Bombadil
06/18/19 10:47:36 PM
#284:


Camarija posted...
wolf theater


I don't know what this means

(in before ulti votes me for asking)

pezloco posted...
Speaking of Ulti though, I'm actually suspicious of him. He's disappeared. His posts so far are so different from last game. He got the big warning. Half the stuff in the rules is practically directed at him.


He did say that nice ulti was scum ulti usually! But yeah I am willing to chalk up a large portion of that to trying not to get modkilled. For now.
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:47:54 PM
#285:


Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!


Do you normally open with wolf theater that hard and fast?

I normally see wolf theater mid game

This doesn't feel like pillow fights, it feels like you've got a bone to pick and MKZero is trying to swat the annoying rhetoric

So yeah, it feels never Mafia/Mafia


I'll be honest idk what most of this means

I mean I have some guesses based on context but

Soooo much jargon???
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:48:19 PM
#286:


Hbthebattle posted...
Camarija posted...
wolf theater

Cam what exactly is this, remember not everyone is familiar with your terminology.


Apologies for the terminology

Wolf theater is where Mafia plan a faux fight amongst themselves so that they have plausible deniability of being associated with each other
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:48:55 PM
#287:


##vote: Ben

Two red flags:

1. His use of the Ben List felt a little sardonic in how over the top it was. I know as town Ben loves that list with all his heart, but as scum he kind of goes a bit silly with it like he did here.

2. In post 156 he says he was lynched for lower than expected activity but was town every time. I think charm and content is different from the activity level that was being expressed as concerning there.

I like Lea because I wasn't liking Ben to that point either.

Luis I have a lean town on because I feel like he is going to his wheelhouse that has served him well as a flavor meta maniac, not that I think that's particularly wise (role meta in terms of hosts is always a much stronger attempt to gain an advantage but he likes his fun)

Tom asked me a question. Neat. Lean scum on Corrik, lean town on Ulti. Corrik has been a bit too zany in the early game for my liking and Ulti seems relaxed in a "I am not being sneaky" sort of way.
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:48:56 PM
#288:


Corrik7 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Corrik7 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik7 posted...
Okay. Puns is town. I see what's up. Carry on.

This feels disingenuous to me.

I mean, if you want me to outright say it.

Puns is town power that tried to hide behind a miller claim to hide from a scum shot. I know he is not miller. He knows I know. And he asked me to chill because I am not helping. Scum would have kept up the ruse not realizing I do actually know there are no Millers this game or have reclaimed.

Puns is town power and hence thus he is town. Simple enough.

If you know he is town power, why are you exposing him to get shot at night at scum? Assuming he isn't scum lying about being miller or really miller.

I said he was town and carry on when he let it soft slip. Ben said I was being shady due to it, so I felt obliged to explain.

I feel the levels of shady run a little deeper than that, but we'll see. Honestly it depends on why you think there are no millers, and that can wait.
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pezloco
06/18/19 10:49:50 PM
#289:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Corrik7 posted...
You aren't reading my posts.


no u


Tom's posts have all made me lol. But this one made me lol the most.
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DoomTheGyarados
06/18/19 10:50:03 PM
#290:


Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris


Well you're literally never scum here.
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:50:08 PM
#291:


Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!


Do you normally open with wolf theater that hard and fast?

I normally see wolf theater mid game

This doesn't feel like pillow fights, it feels like you've got a bone to pick and MKZero is trying to swat the annoying rhetoric

So yeah, it feels never Mafia/Mafia


I'll be honest idk what most of this means

I mean I have some guesses based on context but

Soooo much jargon???


I feel that your verbal jousting with MKZero is genuine and not staged

Therefore I believe you are not knowingly Mafia associates
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:50:12 PM
#292:


I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games
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benjamin3740
06/18/19 10:50:46 PM
#293:


Camarija posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Camarija posted...
Benjamin = Town

By the way

Thanks for the engagement mate

Feels like you're searching for something, not stirring the pot

Thank you for recognizing my townliness. But unfortunately you've activated MY TRAP CARD. The breadcrumb trail led you to a house and right into my oven. You see - the very first person to call me town in a game is very often scum. It's just a pattern I notice. So we can't be town buds. We are cursed to walk this road as enemies. You can still call me town though. It'll make for a nice dramatic and sad story of one-sided love


Healthy paranoia is good

I'm not trying to pocket you though

Just calling it like I see it

Keeping the game in front of me and all

Yeah im kidding man you're probably town too.
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Corrik7
06/18/19 10:50:59 PM
#294:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
##vote: Ben

Two red flags:

1. His use of the Ben List felt a little sardonic in how over the top it was. I know as town Ben loves that list with all his heart, but as scum he kind of goes a bit silly with it like he did here.

2. In post 156 he says he was lynched for lower than expected activity but was town every time. I think charm and content is different from the activity level that was being expressed as concerning there.

I like Lea because I wasn't liking Ben to that point either.

Luis I have a lean town on because I feel like he is going to his wheelhouse that has served him well as a flavor meta maniac, not that I think that's particularly wise (role meta in terms of hosts is always a much stronger attempt to gain an advantage but he likes his fun)

Tom asked me a question. Neat. Lean scum on Corrik, lean town on Ulti. Corrik has been a bit too zany in the early game for my liking and Ulti seems relaxed in a "I am not being sneaky" sort of way.

Choo choo. I know you are good for one bad read to start the game. That is on me. But, that makes your Ben read likelier.

Choo choo

##unvote:
##vote: Ben

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Camarija
06/18/19 10:51:02 PM
#295:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
that's the accepted play for miller on B8 since forever


Why do you think that is? All you've said is stuff along the lines of "that's what ya do" which seems pretty weak.

I have a GUT that both Corrik and Puns are town but my brain doesn't really like Puns' defense

also please stop claiming stuff for no reason thx

it's too early for me to try to bus red (this is a joke) and the ulti policy lynch already died and the only reads I have so far are town reads so let's do something dumb and see what happens

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: Chris


Well you're literally never scum here.


Apologies DoomTheGyarados, was this facetious?
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turbopuns3
06/18/19 10:51:21 PM
#296:


Aww fuck nah

##vote: Chris

That's some weak shit.
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dowolf
06/18/19 10:51:35 PM
#297:


benjamin3740 posted...

I feel the levels of shady run a little deeper than that, but we'll see. Honestly it depends on why you think there are no millers, and that can wait.

why?

as in, why can it wait?
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Lea3Lea
06/18/19 10:51:44 PM
#298:


Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
Lea3Lea posted...
Camarija posted...
MZero11 posted...
Camarija I said nice to meet you and you ignored it :(

Haha sorry I missed it!

Nice to meet you too mate!

I feel like you're getting sucked into a forced argument somewhere with Lea there

I'll call it never Mafia/Mafia at minimum and leave it there


Never?!?!


Do you normally open with wolf theater that hard and fast?

I normally see wolf theater mid game

This doesn't feel like pillow fights, it feels like you've got a bone to pick and MKZero is trying to swat the annoying rhetoric

So yeah, it feels never Mafia/Mafia


I'll be honest idk what most of this means

I mean I have some guesses based on context but

Soooo much jargon???


I feel that your verbal jousting with MKZero is genuine and not staged

Therefore I believe you are not knowingly Mafia associates


Thank you for clarifying.
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pezloco
06/18/19 10:51:44 PM
#299:


Tom Bombadil posted...


pezloco posted...
Speaking of Ulti though, I'm actually suspicious of him. He's disappeared. His posts so far are so different from last game. He got the big warning. Half the stuff in the rules is practically directed at him.


He did say that nice ulti was scum ulti usually! But yeah I am willing to chalk up a large portion of that to trying not to get modkilled. For now.


Similar reasoning is like the only reason I didn't vote Red D1. Red is lurking (not the same as inactive) as scum, but he's a Disney and let's not lynch Red D1, etc...

So, I'm going to keep one finger on the vote Ulti button for now.
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Camarija
06/18/19 10:52:09 PM
#300:


Lea3Lea posted...
I have it on good authority that Ben is acting more like his excited scum self than he has been in his last few town games


That's probably an unfair standard

What's the phrase?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't?

All I see is hyper engagement and that's normally Town points in my books
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