Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 9: The Chapters are not Named

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There are a lot of dumb scanner types that could know for sure it's not Marple. No reason to push it further. Frankly I'm annoyed that people bought the clearly nonsense claim anyway. This is exactly the type of potential damage that "letting it resolve itself" does. If you see a claim that's too good to be true, why not think instead of being a coward about it?
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Lopen posted...

There are a lot of dumb scanner types that could know for sure it's not Marple. No reason to push it further. Frankly I'm annoyed that people bought the clearly nonsense claim anyway. This is exactly the type of potential damage that "letting it resolve itself" does. If you see a claim that's too good to be true, why not think instead of being a coward about it?

He alrdy said he scanned his flavor. What is there to not push further?

The amount of people who want to Lynch red this game before and after his uncountered claim is frankly alarming.
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His claim just got a counter, Corrik. Or does that not count?
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Why do you care how the scanning works? What does town gain? Better to obfuscate the exact nature to prevent scum from having more hints as to how to protect their fake claims.

It's only alarming that people would stay on red because you don't think critically and just respect power claims. A coward.
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I told you I scanned him. I told you hes lying. The exact details make it no more or less believable. If I faked a scan then I could just fake flavour just the same it doesnt give you anything more. You either believe me or you dont. Youll know he flips that his claim is a lie and itll confirm me itself without me giving a clue to any other scum as to how much they can hide if they get caught.

Hbthebattle posted...

His claim just got a counter, Corrik. Or does that not count?

Not countered til he provides a flavor he supposedly is
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Red reveal who visited Chris. 5tar is forcing your hand on it.
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Your silence is deafening, red.

##unvote:
##vote: red
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i'm playing a video game with a friend, cant do both.
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That and you lied about your claim

^ takes less words to do then that message you just wrote. Just like you were playing smash and too busy as scum last game?
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I've been telling you he's been doing that the whole game but I guess some people need power roles to let them be observant
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5tarscream posted...

I told you I scanned him. I told you hes lying. The exact details make it no more or less believable. If I faked a scan then I could just fake flavour just the same it doesnt give you anything more. You either believe me or you dont. Youll know he flips that his claim is a lie and itll confirm me itself without me giving a clue to any other scum as to how much they can hide if they get caught.

I am worried that your thief who can't piece together the flavors and we mislynch our watcher and then mislynch you the following day because you fucked up.

A flavor scanner is a flavor scanner. What does the details matter.
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Lopen posted...

I've been telling you he's been doing that the whole game but I guess some people need power roles to let them be observant

If red is scum, I am frankly very off and need to drop my town ranking about 20 spots. = (
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Not sure I get why Red would fake claim watcher as scum this early. It's very suicidal. But, it appears so.
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i did not fake claim. i dont know what star thinks but hes wrong.
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or lying but i dont know why you suicide.
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Im not going to share what I have until red tells the truth. Im not going to give him an out. Hes lying. Thats all you need to know.

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If you aren't gonna share now, why would you then?

I don't get it.
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Two claimed scanners claiming the other is lying and neither scanner claiming the information to prove they are a scanner.

Fun times!
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I'm literally not lying but i cant tell you what is going on with vague insinuations.
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Because hes lying. He just said himself that its suicide for me to claim hes lying if he isnt. When he flips and he isnt miss marple it confirms it.
I know hes lying because I flavour scanned him. What is the benefit of me giving up the details of the scan? Hes still going to claim its a lie so were in the exact same situation.

if i flip and i'm lying no shit it confirms it. But if you get me killed we need to figure out some semblance of what is going on because I am not lying.
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Except you are lying. Youre not miss marple

except I actually am holy hell star.
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5tarscream posted...

Because hes lying. He just said himself that its suicide for me to claim hes lying if he isnt. When he flips and he isnt miss marple it confirms it.
I know hes lying because I flavour scanned him. What is the benefit of me giving up the details of the scan? Hes still going to claim its a lie so were in the exact same situation.

This really doesn't make sense... It comes off as you don't know his flavor and are a thief.

If you are a thief and are wrong about the flavor not fitting, you are single handedly going to destroy town.
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Not only are you lying but I now firmly believe youre lying and scum. If you were town and lying when you got caught I think youd have come clean about your fake claim and given your real claim and I could confirm it. By sticking to this bs youve just convinced me youre not only lying but your scum.

If you're already dead nothing is suicidal. Red claimed the exact thing he needed to to dig himself out of the grave, only to be kicked back in. The sheer convenience in the idea that he would be a watcher of all things, with no information to boot, it's absurd.

Btw I encourage some pressing of Lea, Ben, Hb, and Tom tomorrow. No doubt in my mind there were some scum on Red, and the ones that just blindly took his claim immediately are the ones I find more likely to be scum

Lea and Ben in particular are fishy as they were on the Dowolf chaos train as well, and they both mentioned scum watcher which is... a weird thing to me. Like, you're still keeping open the possibility that he's scum so you look better when he eventually flips. Lea and Ben also jumped to MZero, which, if one or both of them are scum makes MZero look a lot better.

Tom seemed a bit overzealous to chastise SBell for fishing, too, which is kinda suspicious.

Hb is probably the one I suspect least of the unvoters at this point, because he sorta just did it. Asked about poisoner. Normal reaction to me.

Course the funny thing is you can't force claims from any of them because they've already needed to claim. Cept Tom.
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5tarscream posted...

Not only are you lying but I now firmly believe youre lying and scum. If you were town and lying when you got caught I think youd have come clean about your fake claim and given your real claim and I could confirm it. By sticking to this bs youve just convinced me youre not only lying but your scum.

Town isn't going to lie about their flavor. This doesn't make sense...
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Corrik7 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Because hes lying. He just said himself that its suicide for me to claim hes lying if he isnt. When he flips and he isnt miss marple it confirms it.
I know hes lying because I flavour scanned him. What is the benefit of me giving up the details of the scan? Hes still going to claim its a lie so were in the exact same situation.

This really doesn't make sense... It comes off as you don't know his flavor and are a thief.

If you are a thief and are wrong about the flavor not fitting, you are single handedly going to destroy town.

But Im not thief so I havent damaged town. I just caught red. If youre town youre welcome. If youre scum hard luck.

Red, if you are town watcher, no one is gonna blame you for revealing the doctor with 5tar forcing your hand.

Reveal who visited Chris. If you cannot do that, then you are gonna be dead.

At worst, you watch the doctor and the doctor saves you. Mafia lost their re-director which I assume would take the place of their roleblocker this game.
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Corrik7 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Not only are you lying but I now firmly believe youre lying and scum. If you were town and lying when you got caught I think youd have come clean about your fake claim and given your real claim and I could confirm it. By sticking to this bs youve just convinced me youre not only lying but your scum.

Town isn't going to lie about their flavor. This doesn't make sense...

Except thats exactly what hes done. Well actually hes lied about his role. He hasnt posted any flavour

5tarscream posted...

Corrik7 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Because hes lying. He just said himself that its suicide for me to claim hes lying if he isnt. When he flips and he isnt miss marple it confirms it.
I know hes lying because I flavour scanned him. What is the benefit of me giving up the details of the scan? Hes still going to claim its a lie so were in the exact same situation.

This really doesn't make sense... It comes off as you don't know his flavor and are a thief.

If you are a thief and are wrong about the flavor not fitting, you are single handedly going to destroy town.

But Im not thief so I havent damaged town. I just caught red. If youre town youre welcome. If youre scum hard luck.

Your claim is no more believable than red's without the information to back it up.

It is your word versus his. And, if he can reveal who visited Chris, you are the one who looks like a liar.
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Corrik trying to out yet more town power. Good stuff.

5tarscream posted...

Corrik7 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Not only are you lying but I now firmly believe youre lying and scum. If you were town and lying when you got caught I think youd have come clean about your fake claim and given your real claim and I could confirm it. By sticking to this bs youve just convinced me youre not only lying but your scum.

Town isn't going to lie about their flavor. This doesn't make sense...

Except thats exactly what hes done. Well actually hes lied about his role. He hasnt posted any flavour

What???
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Has red actually mentioned his flavour? Im pretty sure he just said Im miss marple town watcher. Thats not flavour.

*red posts his flavor*
*5tar says his flavor is absolutely a lie*
*Red says he is telling the truth*
*I ask 5tar to reveal his true flavor to prove he is lying*
*5tar says red hasn't revealed his flavor*

Damn I am tired... But not that tired right???
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5tarscream posted...

Has red actually mentioned his flavour? Im pretty sure he just said Im miss marple town watcher. Thats not flavour.

Miss Marple is his flavor...

Which you claimed he wasn't...
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thats as much flavor as i'll ever mention in a game. i dont paraphrase flavor unless special circumstances.
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Vote timing makes me suspect Ben and Tom more than Lea and Hb I think. Lea was early on when red didn't have much support. Hb was kinda pressured by me to throw his vote on too. But yeah would look into all 4 just to be safe.
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red13n posted...

thats as much flavor as i'll ever mention in a game. i dont paraphrase flavor unless special circumstances.

I mean, this sounds like a special circumstance... Lol
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(Flavor) (alignment) (role)
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I actually think its a benefit that theyve already claimed because it gives me instant confirmation when theyre scanned.

I assumed the name is part of the role. Thats my mistake.

Either way hes lying about being miss marple.

Ok I am just confused now. Lol
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i'm literally not lying.
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Keep saying that maybe itll come true.
Either youre lying or scum has a way to divert a scan and I somehow got somebody elses result from your scan.

If you are a flavor type scanner and got an English Literature result that isn't the one he claimed...
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