Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 4: The Happening (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

(+) Yeah! (+)

i wonder what it was in japanese
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well a lot of the humor in Ace Attorney was added in by the localization team so he might not have called him anything like that

not sure if dowolf has ever played the OT in Japanese or not but he's probably the only one who could tell us
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Godot: There's no need to shout. We can all hear you. There's no point struggling. You're caught in a snare. The relentless snare of the law! And I'm the one that hauled you in!

might be Godot's coolest moment and that's saying something
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Godot hype, one of the B8pinions that caught me off guard the most.
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pretty sure Godot hype isn't a B8 exclusive phenomenon
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whew 3-3 complete

which means aw yeah 3-5 is next

numbers soonish
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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 13504
2. Maya Fey - 4096
3. The Judge - 3502
4. Miles Edgeworth - 3109
5. Dick Gumshoe - 2097
6. Mia Fey - 1387
7. Ema Skye - 1150
8. Franziska von Karma - 1090
9. Pearl Fey - 888
10. Godot - 559
11. Adrian Andrews - 458
12. Wendy Oldbag - 442
13. Lotta Hart - 437
14. Larry Butz - 345
15. Will Powers - 329
16. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
17. Manfred von Karma - 316
18. Winston Payne - 299
19. Luke Atmey - 292
20. Damon Gant - 285
21. Dahlia Hawthorne - 284
22. Ini Miney - 275
23. Angel Starr - 272
24. Ron DeLite - 266
25. Jake Marshall - 257
26. Calisto Yew - 256
27. Maggey Byrde - 256
28. Jean Armstrong - 251
29. Lana Skye - 249
30. Victor Kudo - 246
31. Tyrell Badd - 242
32. Marvin Grossberg - 234
33. The Judge's Brother - 224
34. Shelly de Killer - 219
35. Maximillion Galactica - 203
36. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
37. Other - 195
38. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
39. Furio Tigre - 176
40. Matt Engarde - 171
41. Morgan Fey - 163
42. Redd White - 162
43. Regina Berry - 151
44. Dee Vasquez - 148
45. Trilo Quist - 140
46. Desiree DeLite - 137
47. Cody Hackins - 135
48. Mike Meekins - 128
49. Richard Wellington - 107
50. April May - 104
51. Kay Faraday - 99
52. Yanni Yogi - 98
53. Penny Nichols - 86
54. Viola Cadaverini - 79
55. Terry Fawles - 74
56. Director Hotti - 71
57. Benjamin Woodman - 60
58. Frank Sahwit - 58
59. Sal Manella - 57
60. The Bellboy - 57
61. Chief of Detectives - 53
62. Lisa Basil - 45
63. Turner Grey - 39
64. Polly - 20
65. Gregory Edgeworth - 5
66. Shi-Long Lang - 3

Overall total lines - 41672

Total lines by segment:

2-4 Trial Day 2 - 1613
2-4 Investigation Day 1 - 1595
2-4 Investigation Day 2 - 1432
3-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1358
1-5 Trial Day 3 - 1338
2-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1331
2-4 Trial Day 1 - 1306
3-4 - 1225
3-3 Investigation Day 2 - 1221
3-1 - 1167
3-2 Investigation Day 2 - 1127
3-3 Investigation Day 1 - 1093
3-3 Trial Day 2 - 1041
E1-4 Middle - 1030
1-5 Investigation Day 2 - 1004
E1-4 End - 979
3-2 Trial Day 2 - 966
1-5 Trial Day 1 - 938
1-5 Investigation Day 3 - 932
E1-4 Beginning - 926
2-2 Investigation Day 1 - 924
2-3 Investigation Day 2 - 900
2-1 - 899
1-5 Investigation Day 1 - 874
2-3 Trial Day 1 - 851
1-5 Trial Day 2 - 827
2-2 Investigation Day 2 - 808
2-3 Trial Day 2 - 802
2-2 Trial Day 2 - 764
1-4 Investigation Day 2 - 729
3-3 Trial Day 1 - 708
1-4 Investigation Day 1 - 700
3-2 Trial Day 1 - 700
1-3 Investigation Day 2 - 661
1-4 Trial Day 3 - 626
2-2 Trial Day 1 - 623
1-2 Trial Day 1 - 524
1-4 Trial Day 1 - 519
1-3 Trial Day 2 - 517
1-4 Investigation Day 3 - 478
1-3 Investigation Day 1 - 455
1-2 Trial Day 2 - 447
1-4 Trial Day 2 - 414
1-3 Trial Day 3 - 403
1-2 Investigation Day 1 - 402
1-2 Investigation Day 2 - 400
1-1 - 389
1-3 Trial Day 1 - 380
1-3 Investigation Day 3 - 325

Total lines by case:

2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
2-3 - 3884
1-4 - 3466
2-2 - 3119
E1-4 - 2935
1-3 - 2741
1-2 - 1773
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
2-2 - 899
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

PW1 - 14282
JFA - 13848
T&T - 10607
AAI1 - 2935
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Total lines by character per case:

Recipe for Turnabout (3-3)

1. Phoenix Wright - 1476 (36.33%)
2. Maya Fey - 725 (17.84%)
3. Dick Gumshoe - 334 (8.22%)
4. The Judge - 298 (7.33%)
5. Jean Armstrong - 251 (6.18%)
6. Victor Kudo - 246 (6.05%)
7. Godot - 220 (5.41%)
8. Furio Tigre - 176 (4.33%)
9. Maggey Byrde - 167 (4.11%)
10. Viola Cadaverini - 79 (19.44%)
11. Lisa Basil - 45 (1.11%)
12. Chief of Detectives - 17
13. Mia Fey - 16
14. Other - 12
15. Winston Payne - 1

Total lines by character per game:

Trials & Tribulations

1. Phoenix Wright - 3068
2. Maya Fey - 1606
3. Mia Fey - 873
4. The Judge - 830
5. Godot - 559
6. Dick Gumshoe - 539
7. Luke Atmey - 292
8. Dahlia Hawthorne - 284
9. Ron DeLite - 266
10. Jean Armstrong - 251
11. Victor Kudo - 246
12. The Judge's Brother - 224
13. Winston Payne - 169
14. Maggey Byrde - 167
15. Miles Edgeworth - 164
16. Larry Butz - 163
17. Pearl Fey - 146
18. Desiree DeLite - 137
19. Adrian Andrews - 126
20. Marvin Grossberg - 79
21. Viola Cadaverini - 79
22. Terry Fawles - 74
23. Lisa Basil - 45
24. Other - 21
25. Chief of Detectives - 17
20. Doug Swallow - 5
21. Valerie Hawthorne - 3

Most lines per case:

Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 2194
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 2032
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 1476
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 1433
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 1370
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 1328
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 1236
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 1211
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 1117
Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 812
Mia Fey (3-4) - 436
Mia Fey (3-1) - 396
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 329
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 135

Highest percentage of lines per case:

Phoenix Wright (1-2) - 45.80%
Miles Edgeworth (E1-4) - 45.25%
Phoenix Wright (2-2) - 43.92%
Phoenix Wright (1-3) - 40.75%
Phoenix Wright (2-4) - 36.90%
Phoenix Wright (2-1) - 36.60%
Phoenix Wright (3-3) - 36.33%
Mia Fey (3-4) - 35.59%
Phoenix Wright (1-4) - 34.94%
Phoenix Wright (1-1) - 34.70%
Phoenix Wright (3-2) - 34.52%
Phoenix Wright (1-5) - 34.36%
Mia Fey (3-1) - 33.93%
Phoenix Wright (2-3) - 31.82%
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Testimonies by character:

1. Dick Gumshoe - 99 lines/18 testimonies
2. Dahlia Hawthorne - 48 lines/8 testimonies
3. Wendy Oldbag - 45 lines/8 testimonies
4. Luke Atmey - 38 lines/6 testimonies
5. Adrian Andrews - 34 lines/6 testimonies
6. Lotta Hart - 31 lines/6 testimonies
7. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 34 lines/5 testimonies
8. Calisto Yew - 21 lines/5 testimonies
9. Redd White - 29 lines/4 testimonies
10. Angel Starr - 24 lines/4 testimonies
11. Ini Miney - 24 lines/4 testimonies
12. Furio Tigre - 23 lines/4 testimonies
13. Jean Armstrong - 22 lines/4 testimonies
14. Shelly de Killer - 22 lines/4 testimonies
15. Victor Kudo - 21 lines/4 testimonies
16. Cody Hackins - 21 lines/3 testimonies
17. Damon Gant - 20 lines/3 testimonies
18. Frank Sahwit - 20 lines/3 testimonies
19. Lana Skye - 19 lines/3 testimonies
20. Jake Marshall - 18 lines/3 testimonies
21. Phoenix Wright - 17 lines/3 testimonies
22. Ron DeLite - 17 lines/3 testimonies
23. Trilo Quist - 17 lines/3 testimonies
24. Will Powers - 17 lines/3 testimonies
25. Ema Skye - 15 lines/3 testimonies
26. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 15 lines/3 testimonies
27. Mike Meekins - 15 lines/3 testimonies
28. Dee Vasquez - 16 lines/2 testimonies
29. April May - 14 lines/2 testimonies
30. Yanni Yogi - 13 lines/2 testimonies
31. Larry Butz - 12 lines/2 testimonies
32. Sal Manella - 12 lines/2 testimonies
33. Franziska von Karma - 10 lines/2 testimonies
34. Richard Wellington - 10 lines/2 testimonies
35. The Judge - 10 lines/2 testimonies
36. Miles Edgeworth - 8 lines/1 testimony
37. Morgan Fey - 6 lines/1 testimony
38. Tyrell Badd - 6 lines/1 testimony
39. Terry Fawles - 6 lines/1 testimony
40. The Bellboy - 5 lines/1 testimony
41. Polly - 3 lines/1 testimony
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Whoa, I knew 3-3 was one of Gumshoe's more prolific cases but I didn't know it was THAT prolific

Well, he's pretty heavily involved on both investigation days, and he probably has the most trial dialogue of any case, too.

I still kinda expect 3-5 to leave that number in the dust though, but it'll do that for most characters. I'm wondering how many lines 3-5 will end up with if 1-5 and 2-4 came in just under 6000.
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Speaking of 3-5, I assume Dahlia's impersonation of Iris counts as Dahlia?
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Dahlia's dialogue counts for Dahlia regardless of who she's pretending to be, yes.
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the fact that Larry Butz was palling around with the Master of Kurain is still one of the more surreal things in the series

I wonder if she secretly gave him some of her spiritual power and that's why his pics end up depicting such important details
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And don't forget what he says about Bikini.
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Maya is a Phoenix/Iris shipper

boom case closed
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you know if I'd have been really attentive to detail the first time through I'd have noticed that Elise Deauxnim does that same little thing with her fingers that Mia, Maya, and Pearl all do where she presses her middle and ring fingers together
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Not that it really matters but there's a typo in Viola's % of line-count for 3-3.

LeonhartFour posted...

pretty sure Godot hype isn't a B8 exclusive phenomenon

I'd strongly suspect the level of hype seen on B8 is at most exclusive to communities which are highly male-dominated (for reasons which are pretty obvious, I haven't met many women who like Godot), but there are only a few places I discuss AA regularly so I could be wrong.
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I haven't met many women who play Ace Attorney, period, but I'd imagine most gaming communities are male-dominated anyway, unless it's something specifically catered to women.
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regardless I'd wager Godot would be one of the most popular AA characters in any AA community even if he is somewhat divisive

I feel like you're projecting your own distaste for him a bit here
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Iris: Mr. Edgeworth...What is Mr. Wright to you?
Edgeworth: ...He is a very dear and indispensable friend.

I don't remember what the line was originally, but I think Edgeworth was kind of evasive about it. I'm glad they changed it so there's no ambiguity in his answer.
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Edgeworth: Gumshoe indeed! Like gum on your shoe, he's impossible to get rid of!

Edgeworth: I'm amazed he survived the fall from up here.
Gumshoe: Yeah, he's one lucky guy, sir. Now I see how he manages to win his cases in court. Blind luck.
Edgeworth: (I think dumb luck suits Wright just a bit better.)

Edgeworth expressing thankfulness for inner monologue is also amazing

dude is just on fire in 3-5
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Gumshoe: Well, everyone knows that you are quite popular with the ladies, sir. Maybe she's an old girlfriend that you sent to Dumpsville when you were younger.
Edgeworth: D-Detective! Where did you hear such nonsense from?!
Gumshoe: I didn't hear it from anyone. It's just sorta how I imagine you to be...sir.
Edgeworth: (...D-Do I really inspire this sort of frothing desire from the female masses?)

seriously why couldn't AAI make this duo work
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LeonhartFour posted...

Iris: Mr. Edgeworth...What is Mr. Wright to you?
Edgeworth: ...He is a very dear and indispensable friend.

I don't remember what the line was originally, but I think Edgeworth was kind of evasive about it. I'm glad they changed it so there's no ambiguity in his answer.

Do you mean these two lines?

Iris:
Mr. Edgeworth...
Are you his friend?

Edgeworth:
Friend? Well...
In a sense, yes.

The script for 3-5 is actually one of the ones on GameFAQs:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/939065-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-trials-and-tribulations/faqs/50922
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Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't remember the exact line, but I knew it was an evasive answer.
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LeonhartFour posted...

seriously why couldn't AAI make this duo work

:(
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I never thought about it before but Edgeworth must be a closet Star Wars fan since he talks about midichlorians at one point
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Gumshoe: A nun is as trustworthy as you can get! We got this one in the bag! ...Oh. I-I mean, I've always been on your side, Mr. Edgeworth, sir! So yeah, this is a pretty tight spot we've gotten ourselves into, huh?!
Edgeworth: (Now I understand why Wright is always breaking into a cold sweat...)

Gumshoe: There are fingerprints all over the hilt of the Shichishito.
Edgeworth: Fingerprints...?
Gumshoe: Naturally they match the prints we got from the younger nun, the defendant.
Edgeworth: (Her fingerprints are on the murder weapon...?!)
Gumshoe: What's wrong? You're looking really solemn.
Edgeworth: Is this how it is for Wright? Is this what it's like to be a defense attorney?
Gumshoe: Yeah, I figure it doesn't feel really good.
Edgeworth: ...To be honest, it feels more like it's detrimental to your health.

so good

but maybe 3-5 hype is just a B8pinion
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that line is an example of why edgey/gumshoe don't necessarily work as well in AAI, of course. it's a 'novelty' line that can only be used once.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I never thought about it before but Edgeworth must be a closet Star Wars fan since he talks about midichlorians at one point

his fave character is probably darth vader, the masked midichlorian man
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SeabassDebeste posted...

that line is an example of why edgey/gumshoe don't necessarily work as well in AAI, of course. it's a 'novelty' line that can only be used once.

Well, it works because Edgeworth is actually being a defense attorney instead of acting like a defense attorney while nominally being a prosecutor. It's part of why the concept works better in AAI2 because he's working with Ray most of the time.

but seriously man 3-5 might be Gumshoe's best case in terms of amazing one-liners

he has a bunch of great ones on both days
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Edgeworth: The trial starts tomorrow. I promise you...I will win. I'm going to win so that you and Phoenix Wright can see each other again. But when I do, you must promise me that you will tell him your secret.
Iris: But it's pointless...
Edgeworth: Why would you say that?
Iris: Because I may know who Phoenix Wright is...But he has no idea who I am.

even Edgeworth is a Phoenix/Iris shipper boom case closed

also the mystery of Iris with lines like that last one was one of the biggest appeals of 3-5 when I first played it

I JUST HAD TO KNOW
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I see your point - was thinking more that Edgeworth can only "discover" what it's like to be ragged on like this once. After that, fighting as an underdog becomes the norm.
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SeabassDebeste posted...

I see your point - was thinking more that Edgeworth can only "discover" what it's like to be ragged on like this once. After that, fighting as an underdog becomes the norm.

I mean Phoenix discovers new ways to be beaten down over many cases!

Edgeworth didn't even get to do anything truly crazy in 3-5 anyway!

Regardless, 3-5 investigation day 1 complete. These are some interesting numbers.
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you should post em. I bet Edgeworth is pretty high if you talk just day 1.
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1. Miles Edgeworth - 423
2. Phoenix Wright - 194
3. Dick Gumshoe - 191
4. Larry Butz - 157
5. Maya Fey - 138
6. Iris - 118
7. Bikini - 88
8. Pearl Fey - 44
9. Elise Deauxnim - 29
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even gumshoe's biggest day can't get much separation from Maya
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I noticed Gumshoe didn't interject during conversations nearly as frequently as Maya does, which is why Edgeworth blew him out of the water in line count. Usually Phoenix and Maya are fairly close in line count on investigation days.
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also friendly reminder to self for AAI1 since that is rapidly approaching

play order is E1-2, E1-3, E1-1, E1-5
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(Is there some sort of "Kick Me" sign stuck to the defense's bench?!)

so good
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(It's not a bad feeling at all, exposing contradictions like this...Now I understand that happy look on Wright's face every time he does it...)

also I like Franziska's "All people lie. That is my belief" line
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Edgeworth: ...Think carefully. This is very important.
Bikini: It's Iris we are talking about here! I'm thinking for all I'm worth!

Bikini's testimony is super good because she's one of the rare witnesses who isn't actively trying to deceive you and would love nothing more than to see the defendant cleared of all charges.
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Edgeworth: Are...
Franziska: You...
Judge's Brother: High! The girl...She's really high up in this picture!
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Some of you may remember me doing a "Top 50 Ace Attorney Music" topic a couple years ago. Well.. I re-ranked them. I feel MUCH better about these new rankings...and the list has been expanded to 100, too.

If any of you are interested:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/180648-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-spirit-of-justice/76470480
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I just looked at the first page and saw several songs that looked way too low so I didn't keep reading beyond that

I mean I can't judge music well in the first place but still
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Well, I am very musically talented, so it just might be your lack of judgment!

I'm not expecting everyone to like the rankings...I should have just started with #1 rather than #100. ~_~
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Haste_2 posted...

Well, I am very musically talented, so it just might be your lack of judgment!

well I am certainly not judging music on technical merits

but AAI1 Presto is a top tier AA song if nothing else
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Is there anything popular in the series you would rank low, Leonhart? Or does your opinion exactly match the consensus?

...and that is why you shouldn't just stop reading the list.
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Haste_2 posted...

Is there anything popular in the series you would rank low, Leonhart? Or does your opinion exactly match the consensus?

...and that is why you shouldn't just stop reading the list.

I am the consensus as the #1 Ace Attorney fan on B8 as determined by my fellow B8 Ace Attorney fans

but seriously I can't contribute much of anything to a music discussion anyway so there's not much I can say about it other than "that song is much better than that" or "that song sucks" (like the JFA cross-examination themes)
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That's just fine. (oh, yeah, and I didn't actually mean it when I said you were lacking in judgment.. all opinions count, regardless of musical training)
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