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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 11:32:21 AM
#202:


My two nicknames are totally different from the ones Jakyl just posted.

But somehow they're all equally bad.

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Jakyl25
07/28/20 11:32:43 AM
#203:


Well Samis changed when he turned

Black just has multiple
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Steiner
07/28/20 11:33:12 AM
#204:


Jakyl25 posted...
Black just has multiple

this is how you know he's a real Star

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Jakyl25
07/28/20 11:34:59 AM
#205:


I had to look up an article about him from WWE.com to remember his


The Dutch Destroyer has been closely allied with Mysterio in recent weeks, fighting alongside the masked marvel and his son Dominik in the aftermath of The Monday Night Messiahs initial assault on Mysterios eye. Will Black make Rollins pay for his horrific actions, or will The Monday Night Messiahs sacrifices continue?


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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 11:39:22 AM
#206:


First off, this is such a fucking abomination of SEO.

Second, no fucking wonder nobody under 50 watches this shit. Anybody would read that paragraph and be like "This is the lamest thing I've ever seen. Why do I watch this?" What kills me is that everything on WWE.com is written like this. It isn't even like Jakyl got 'lucky' and picked one that was extra bad. It's always that bad.

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ZeroSignal620
07/28/20 11:53:58 AM
#207:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Asuka will probably be fodder and lose to Sasha and Bayley in some unsatisfying way. It's just how this company rolls.

Not far off tbh. We watched Asuka job to Carmella twice thanks to Ellsworth 2 years ago.

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ZeroSignal620
07/28/20 11:59:00 AM
#208:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
How? How do you mess up a Daniel Bryan return from retirement like that? WWE found a way in record time to kill all the buzz and make him just another guy. That was when I realized WWE can and will screw literally everything up.

I'll do you one better. After we watched Daniel Bryan beat 75% of Evolution in one night to overcome the greatest of odds, what does WWE do? Have him feud with Kane. In 2014.

Which of course led to his injury and title vacating.

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XIII_rocks
07/28/20 12:55:24 PM
#209:


I would argue that was a worthwhile sacrifice to enable Shield vs. Evolution which I greatly enjoyed

Not sure who else they could really have gone with at that point. If they had had Wyatt beat Cena at Wrestlemania, possibly him.

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TheRock1525
07/28/20 1:05:28 PM
#210:


Problem is that giving Wyatt such a big win over Cena only to have him immediately lose to Bryan would just create the same problem as before.

Kane was the perfect filler feud for him until the proper challenger. He's incredibly safe and easy to work with.

And the plan all along was for him to get ragdolled by Brock so it's not like it really mattered.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 1:17:30 PM
#211:


Kane was an alright choice, but if I remember right the real problem was that the feud was absolutely awful.

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TheRock1525
07/28/20 1:20:49 PM
#212:


Because for whatever reason they decided in involve Brie.

And by whatever reason I mean "promotion of Total Divas."

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ZeroSignal620
07/28/20 1:27:14 PM
#213:


All roads led to Brock, which we mostly knew once he became the 1 in 21-1.

The less said about Wyatt/Cena, the better. Not a TERRIBLE feud, but they had a cage match that ended because Cena couldn't walk past a singing kid.

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Steiner
07/28/20 1:31:39 PM
#214:


TheRock1525 posted...
Problem is that giving Wyatt such a big win over Cena only to have him immediately lose to Bryan would just create the same problem as before.

Kane was the perfect filler feud for him until the proper challenger. He's incredibly safe and easy to work with.

And the plan all along was for him to get ragdolled by Brock so it's not like it really mattered.


Bryan getting ragdolled by Brock at Summerslam and then building back to challenge again at next year's Mania would have been the best story possible though!
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 1:37:31 PM
#215:


Best story possible involving Brock is still not a very good story.

Still better than my favorite one where Seth Rollins feuded with the ghost of Triple H for months and somehow still kept losing.

It's wild to me how badly they screwed up Seth so constantly. And Seth is so angry about it that he hates the fans because of it.

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Steiner
07/28/20 1:40:54 PM
#216:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Best story possible involving Brock is still not a very good story.



I mean the best story wwe could possibly told in 2014 or any other year
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Maniac64
07/28/20 1:52:54 PM
#217:


Are Breeze and Fandango still on the roster? I feel like I havent heard their names in years

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 1:54:54 PM
#218:


They're on NXT now, being massively hilarious still from what I hear.

And not on the main roster being hilarious because a 90 year old man doesn't understand their humor.

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TheRock1525
07/28/20 1:57:18 PM
#219:


Pretty sure Vince saw them as nothing but a comedy act and that's why they were in skits 90% of the time instead of actually wrestling.

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TheRock1525
07/28/20 2:00:45 PM
#220:


Like Tyler Breeze repeatedly cross-dressing? Absolutely 100% up Vince's alley in terms of humor.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 2:06:12 PM
#221:


There were reports Vince didn't understand any of their skits but ended up allowing them because other people seemed to like them.

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HashtagSEP
07/28/20 2:07:16 PM
#222:


Yeah, that was one case where Vince actually allowed something that he didn't like to continue, just since the skits were so incredibly popular.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 2:10:10 PM
#223:


There's a reason the only notable match Breezango ever had was their one match against the Usos that got over huge and then nothing else so we could continue Usos and New Day being champs off and on for what feels like 20 years.

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Steiner
07/28/20 2:16:17 PM
#224:


They unfortunately show up in nxt from time to time
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TheRock1525
07/28/20 2:39:17 PM
#225:


Just now: I have a coworker named Jake and everyone makes the Jake from State Farm joke. I said we should call him Jake the Snake like the wrestler.

My 60+ year old boss goes "He's in AEW now."

AEW: Not Just For The Demos.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 2:48:52 PM
#226:


Matt Jackson is finally making headway.



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Eddv
07/28/20 4:04:23 PM
#227:


Umm Cena didnt put over Wyatt huge lol.

Wyatt is the "loving the smell of your own farts" style of booking through and through

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 4:52:23 PM
#228:


RAW hit 1.62 and the third hour had an all time lowest viewership ever of 1.463.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 5:16:33 PM
#229:


https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1288216457147490307?s=19

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ZeroSignal620
07/28/20 9:56:52 PM
#230:


So I was looking at the draft from last October. Where do we stand 9 months later? Just using the first 10 for each brand... not counting supplemental picks inbetween shows

Raw
1) Becky (Pregnant)
2) The OC (Styles back on SD, Anderson/Gallows on Impact)
3) McIntyre
4) Orton
5) Ricochet (5?? Holy shit his stock plummeted)
6) Lashley
7) Bliss (On Smackdown)
8) Owens
9) Natalya
10) Viking Raiders

Smackdown
1) Reigns (Indefinite Hiatus)
2) Wyatt
3) Sasha
4) Strowman
5) Lacey
6) Revival (AEW)
7) Lucha House Party
8) Heavy Machinery
9) Brock Lesnar (on Raw. Also might as well be on indefinite hiatus)
10) New Day

Speaking of Supplemental picks, Raw lost nearly all of theirs: EC3, Eric Young, Sin Cara, Hawkins, Ryder, Jose, and Sarah Logan to unemployment, then Mojo to Smackdown. The only ones left are the IIconics.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/28/20 11:42:52 PM
#231:


Love that Danhausen

https://twitter.com/DanhausenAD/status/1288160156463894528?s=09

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 2:28:03 AM
#232:


I appreciate that NXT is giving me what I want, and that is more Timothy Thatcher.

But I'm not sold on Dexter Lumis being a great opponent for him after Lorcan and Riddle.

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Steiner
07/29/20 2:29:01 AM
#233:


TheRock1525 posted...
I appreciate that NXT is giving me what I want, and that is more Timothy Thatcher.

But I'm not sold on Dexter Lumis being a great opponent for him after Lorcan and Riddle.

the only way to improve this match is to add Finn Balor

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 2:30:39 AM
#234:


I would like to thank Steiner for turning me into a Thatcher mark.

That Thatcher/WALTER match you showed me was a thing of a beauty.

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Steiner
07/29/20 2:31:08 AM
#235:


fuck yeah - imo the best match in Progress history

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 2:39:44 AM
#236:


The only issue I had was with the camera work, but like a match where there was, what, only one throw the entire first 18 minutes match (Thatcher suplexing WALTER on the outside) and then suddenly two German Suplexes on each other and I'm losing my fucking mind.

Thatcher wrestles like a dude who is trying to win a professional wrestling match via the rules put in place (i.e. submission or keeping his opponent's shoulders pinned to the mat for 3 seconds). And the dude defends! Not "fight out of a move/hold" or reversal, something as simple as WALTER knocking him down, he doesn't lay there writhing in agony like a moron. He literally spins himself into position to attempt to kick back at WALTER in order to defend himself. Hell, in his recent match with Lorcan when Oney's laying in the chops, he doesn't sit there and take it like an asshole or trade chops with him. He literally puts his arms up to guard his chest and dumbass Lorcan chops his forearms, hurting himself.

If professional wrestling was a legitimate sport, Thatcher wrestles like a guy who could actually win at it.

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Steiner
07/29/20 2:42:54 AM
#237:


TheRock1525 posted...
Thatcher wrestles like a dude who is trying to win a professional wrestling match via the rules put in place (i.e. submission or keeping his opponent's shoulders pinned to the mat for 3 seconds). And the dude defends! Not "fight out of a move/hold" or reversal, something as simple as WALTER knocking him down, he doesn't lay there writhing in agony like a moron. He literally spins himself into position to attempt to kick back at WALTER in order to defend himself. Hell, in his recent match with Lorcan when Oney's laying in the chops, he doesn't sit there and take it like an asshole or trade chops with him. He literally puts his arms up to guard his chest and dumbass Lorcan chops his forearms, hurting himself.

these really are all the little details I love. did you watch the Dan Makabe matches?

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 2:46:24 AM
#238:


Not yet, I haven't had the free time to sit down and watch more. Just the four links you gave me.

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 3:06:28 AM
#239:


Okay I watched the Makabe/Thatcher retrospective.

Other than the stupid baseball punch, these matches look fantastic.

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Steiner
07/29/20 3:12:45 AM
#240:


https://www.bilibili.com/video/av13082918/ Thatcher, WALTER and Axel Dieter Jr (Marcel Barthel) vs. British Strong Style
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19282140/ vs. WALTER, Progress
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av46406285/ vs. Yuki Ishikawa, wXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlihuzEUfmI vs. Biff Busick (Oney Lorcan), Beyond Wrestling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIgzRUaPiv0 a video essay on his great three match series with Daniel Makabe in 3-2-1 Battle in Seattle

here's what i sent rock in case anyone is interested

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 3:32:32 AM
#241:


Steiner posted...
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19282140/ vs. WALTER, Progress
There's an absolute amazing sequence in the match.

Thatcher has WALTER in an armbar. WALTER wisely rolls onto his shoulder, then eventually gets Thatcher into position for the typical "Powerbomb my opponent because he stupidly won't let go of the submission hold." So what does Thatcher do before he gets lifted up for the powerbomb? Let's go of WALTER's arm. How does WALTER respond? By stomping the ever-loving shit out of Thatcher's face.

It's just so good.

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 9:10:21 AM
#242:


So Drake Maverick revealed that the infamous spot where he pissed himself, he actually ended up having to piss himself because the original contraption that was supposed to simulate it failed.

Well then.

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Strife2
07/29/20 9:13:53 AM
#243:


SUCH GOOD PISS PAL
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Steiner
07/29/20 9:16:33 AM
#244:


TheRock1525 posted...
So Drake Maverick revealed that the infamous spot where he pissed himself, he actually ended up having to piss himself because the original contraption that was supposed to simulate it failed.

Well then.

we heard this quite some time ago!

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Jakyl25
07/29/20 10:05:35 AM
#245:


Yeah and then they tried to fucking fire him after that level of performance and loyalty
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TheRock1525
07/29/20 10:42:07 AM
#246:


And now he's on 205 Live acting like a heel for some reason.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/29/20 1:12:08 PM
#247:


https://twitter.com/TheShooterKM/status/1288434891852591104?s=19

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/29/20 8:35:30 PM
#248:


Apparently Excalibur is off commentary because people are trying to cancel him and Kevin Owens again for that PWG video where they said the n-word 17 years ago in which they've both apologized multiple times and explained that it was written for them.

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Maniac64
07/29/20 8:43:29 PM
#249:


That sucks.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/29/20 8:48:02 PM
#250:


You know what doesn't suck? Zack Ryder in AEW!*

*Hopefully

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TheRock1525
07/29/20 9:03:15 PM
#251:


Isn't he the first of the April 15th released to end up in AEW?

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