Current Events > Gacha Game General Topic 35: ''A song of victory!''

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Funkydog
07/24/23 4:54:55 AM
#51:


ennuigamer posted...
Arknights. Event starts on the 28th.
Plz Yostar. I need time to advance the main chapters so I can get needed materials to upgrade new units.

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YugiNoob
07/24/23 1:12:42 PM
#52:


Woohoo, I got Serval and Fennec, along with some 4 and 5 stars that I wanted, so I can finally play Kemono Friends lol.

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legendarylemur
07/24/23 10:06:52 PM
#53:


No clue what's going on but I pulled the 5* Lyfe. I already had a 4* frost smg so it worked out... though for some reason the frost smg has a tank related skill. I feel like 3* weapons are better than the 4* ones most of the time. I just don't see what a slight bit of tankiness will do for me. At lvl 40 and I can't really beat the full challenge lvl 50 bosses in that one mode

Anyways, I believe I only really pulled 150 times (maybe lower?) at 1.7%, which I guess one 5* is guaranteed, but it's still an expected return of 2.55. I pulled 3 5* char and 1 5* wep, so I'm way overperforming even taking the guaranteed one into account

I'm at 70/80 pity on the selection banner. I don't think... I need Acacia anymore lmao. I might hold out for a different mid-range unit whose design I like the most. The notes say the pity count carries over.

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Eab1990
07/25/23 4:01:30 AM
#54:


Bah, forgot about part 2 summer Priconne.

Looks like Shinobu, Kuuka, and... Ranpha. Dammit.

https://twitter.com/priconne_redive/status/1683718875173781504

Highly doubt Ranpha will be the freebie, so... probably Shinobu?
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YugiNoob
07/25/23 5:15:49 AM
#55:


Time to pick up the number one crazy princess in Blue Archive :3

Let's see how many pulls it takes and if I'm lucky enough to get any good 3 stars along the way.

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Eab1990
07/25/23 5:33:04 AM
#56:


Also lol, nobody cares about Matsuri.

https://twitter.com/priconne_redive/status/1683749179070504960

Half the replies are just memeing about 6* Shiori never.

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YugiNoob
07/25/23 6:03:21 AM
#57:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80518604

I'm having a giveaway if any of you guys are interested :3

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darksamus1992
07/25/23 8:28:38 AM
#58:


Goddamn luck. I failed getting Oberon and Koyan in FGO(Literally no 5 stars in 200+ pulls), Reed in AK took way too many pulls to get too. But I reinstall BA in a whim and get the new character and another 2 SSRs in just 3 multis.

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Uta
07/25/23 2:54:15 PM
#59:


Whelp. Limbus Company has massively fucked up and fired one of their main CG artists. I don't know how they're going to recover from a fuck up this bad, especially when the politics of the fuck do not favor them in the least. The short version.

Ishmael got a summer ID. Like everyon expected, she's in some cool tactical swim gear and not a Bikini. The same incels who have been mad about getting cucked by Sinclair and how the women aren't sexy enough got mad and tried to prove that the game has an evil feminist angle it's trying to push. Unfortunately for them they found nothing on the artist they where actually mad about. But what they do find is that the main CG artist for the story mode is in fact a feminist.

And not like, the evil kind of feminist some of you might be thinking of. The kind who says really basic things like "Please don't throw rocks at women" and "We should get more female politicians" and "Men who record illegal upskirt videos of women are evil". That sort of thing. So these people launch a smear campaign based on that, trying to prove that the in-game art assets are promoting a feminist agenda. Things like trying to compare the way a character holds a pill bottle to the "" emoji and saying that it's anti-man propaganda. Marching into PM's office to protest, and trying to dox the artist's real name to send death threats.

Unfortunately, Project Moon caved to their demands and fired the artist. See, Project Moon like many companies has a social media policy that basically says "Say what you want, just don't cause controversy for us". Now, the artist had actually deleted all of her tweets that might be inflammatory before being hired, but because of the pill bottle thing that's evidence enough to basically say that they've connected their personal beliefs to the company assets and thus is grounds for termination.

TLDR: Incels got mad at some in-game art and then got an unrelated person fired for saying things like "Please don't sexually harass women". A lot of people are upset and people are now boycotting the game / leaving negative reviews on it and all the fan communities have closed their doors to avoid drama.

I'll post more if it comes but if PM stays silent on this I'll probably be one of the people leaving a negative review and dropping the game.

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Tyranthraxus
07/25/23 3:20:55 PM
#60:


Glad I never got into Limbus in the first place.

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YugiNoob
07/25/23 3:30:55 PM
#61:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Glad I never got into Limbus in the first place.


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Uta
07/25/23 4:00:20 PM
#62:


Yeah just disappointing being a fan of their work for years. Especially the setting they've crafted, and then to just kind of tear away a LOT of good will with this shit. I'll give them time to course correct but. I wouldn't expect it.

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legendarylemur
07/25/23 4:04:15 PM
#63:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/6/AAT8UhAAEsXO.jpg
WHO DIS

oh god please don't let her be a bad guy. I'd pull her in a heartbeat. Save for her

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legendarylemur
07/25/23 4:28:38 PM
#64:


So yeah I wrote a thing on Reddit about it, I don't really want to see the response cuz there are a few incel sauce drinking Korean guys on that subreddit saying some heinous shit, so I'll paraphrase:

I went into various Korean forums, can't say I understand every The facts are these:

The artist was in fact a part of a radical feminist movement. She's been shown to retweet celebration of certain deaths of anti-feminist individuals. She definitely have said that male abortion should be promoted, though as to any actual actions, it's not like the movement has any political pull, nor were there actual platform that abortion should only apply to males, as far as I can see.

But as far as all the screenshots go, which there are numerous, all of them are within 2016~2018, which was around the time the #MeToo movement caught on amidst a bunch of rape allegations about major figures in politics. At this point, the law against stalking was punishment as a minor misdemeanor. Then a stalker murder case also happens at around 2020 where the incident becomes massively inflamed, but I don't see any tweets from her around this period.

The only tweet she has made within the reasonable point of her actual employment in Project Moon that might even slightly indicate promotion of feminism is that she said people should make space for pregnant women on bus, which is tame and not political to say the least.

So essentially, she was fired due to the excess bullying from the audience, and it wasn't due to abusing her position for her political beliefs. If anything, that's not enough for the audience, as they probably consider her existence as the promotion of her political beliefs.

As to how big the incel movement is, they've recently trumped a women protection law with a 3-4% swing. Things aren't good in Korea. In a few decades, most likely they'll feel a very significant effect from their heinously low birth rate and gender discrimination in an age where women are much better educated.

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Uta
07/25/23 4:46:01 PM
#65:


legendarylemur posted...
The artist was in fact a part of a radical feminist movement. She's been shown to retweet celebration of certain deaths of anti-feminist individuals. She definitely have said that male abortion should be promoted, though as to any actual actions, it's not like the movement has any political pull, nor were there actual platform that abortion should only apply to males, as far as I can see.
So the thing about that. I went to the forums, machine translated every tweet. And didn't find anything like that. I've seen various people make this claim, but have seen zero evidence for this. There's plenty of evidence she's said things like "people who take illegal recordings are bad", but nothing along the lines of "men should be aborted". If this is true I'd really like to see some evidence of it because that could influence my opinion. It also seems to me that a lot of Koreans don't know what TERF means, and over there it's akin to the term Feminazi. A way to denigrate any feminist as a crazy radical.

legendarylemur posted...
As to how big the incel movement is, they've recently trumped a women protection law with a 3-4% swing. Things aren't good in Korea. In a few decades, most likely they'll feel a very significant effect from their heinously low birth rate and gender discrimination in an age where women are much better educated.
This is uh, a far too complicated topic for the ol' Gacha thread probably. But yeah probably.

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Funkydog
07/25/23 4:58:19 PM
#66:


Well damn

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YugiNoob
07/25/23 5:46:26 PM
#67:


BTW guys I'm gonna make another Steam gift card giveaway topic when Kafka comes out if you wanted to enter :3

Can someone explain how the Honkai pity system works though? It's not as simple as just X amount of pulls and you can get the character, right :<

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Funkydog
07/25/23 5:52:32 PM
#68:


From what I recall you get a chance at a 5* at some point, but not necessarily the banner unit.

Not sure though as not played for a bit though.

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ennuigamer
07/25/23 6:05:08 PM
#69:


legendarylemur posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/6/AAT8UhAAEsXO.jpg
WHO DIS

oh god please don't let her be a bad guy. I'd pull her in a heartbeat. Save for her

So you're at Chapter 7 too?

Huh... So they really did replace all the male characters with waifus. In the beta, the person you are supposed to meet up with here for the mission was originally a man by the name of Ling Yi. Chapter 7's story was redone as a result (the details again, not the overall story beats). I thought he was a good character, so I'm a little disappointed.

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YotsuMaboroshi
07/25/23 6:12:35 PM
#70:


YugiNoob posted...
Can someone explain how the Honkai pity system works though? It's not as simple as just X amount of pulls and you can get the character, right :<
  1. Every 90 pulls will guarantee a 5 star character. The rate for a 5 star starts increasing around 75 pulls These counts reset when you pull any 5 star (similar to FE Heroes gacha), but they also carry over between banners.
  2. When you pull a 5 star in the limited banner, if you've never pulled a 5 star character on any limited banner, or the last 5 star you pulled was the rate-up, you have a 50% chance that the 5 star is the rate-up, and a 50% chance that it is a 5 star from the standard pool.
  3. If the last 5 star you pulled from a limited banner was not the rate-up, then when you pull a 5 star it is guaranteed to be the rate-up character.
TL;DR: Assume that 180 pulls will be needed to get Kafka, if you haven't pulled in a limited banner since pulling Seele.
Rates are slightly different when pulling on the Lightcone banner, but I assume you're primarily interested in actually pulling Kafka.
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YugiNoob
07/25/23 6:40:03 PM
#71:


Dang, I pulled Silver Wolf D:

I want to make a game about how many pulls it'll take me to get Kafka, but this seems a bit confusing. At least with Mika in Blue Archive I could limit the guesses to 1-20 pulls since 20 is the pity. But since I pulled Wolfy I won't know the upper limit?

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YotsuMaboroshi
07/25/23 7:41:50 PM
#72:


It doesn't matter what the rate up was, if your last 5 star pull on a limited banner was a rate-up, it will take a maximum of 180 pulls (18 10-pulls) from that 5 star to get the next rate-up guaranteed. You just change Seele with Silver Wolf in my TL;DR.

To figure out the actual maximum, subtract the number of pulls you've made in a limited banner since the last 5 star you pulled (the History should go back 6 months I think?). So if you did 1 10 pull on SW after getting her to try for an upgrade, you have 170 pulls maximum until Kafka. If you did 50 pulls on SW without getting her, and stopped there, you have a maximum of 130 pulls until Kafka.

Since you're counting in 10-pulls, just divide the number by 10 and you can still do your game.

TL;DR:
Hard pity is a maximum of 90 pulls between 5 stars, and 180 between rate-ups. Subtract number of pulls since last banner 5 star from 180 to get maximum number of pulls if you don't pull from now until Kafka's banner starts.

Edit: I only mentioned Seele in my original example because that was the last 5 star I knew you pulled, since I didn't follow the Star Rail thread in CE at all.
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YugiNoob
07/25/23 7:57:05 PM
#73:


Ah, I see. Thanks, since that guarantees that I can get my minimum of 3 copies :D

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legendarylemur
07/26/23 2:04:53 AM
#74:


Uta posted...
So the thing about that. I went to the forums, machine translated every tweet. And didn't find anything like that. I've seen various people make this claim, but have seen zero evidence for this. There's plenty of evidence she's said things like "people who take illegal recordings are bad", but nothing along the lines of "men should be aborted". If this is true I'd really like to see some evidence of it because that could influence my opinion. It also seems to me that a lot of Koreans don't know what TERF means, and over there it's akin to the term Feminazi. A way to denigrate any feminist as a crazy radical.

This is uh, a far too complicated topic for the ol' Gacha thread probably. But yeah probably.
There are moments where she says it herself actually. A lot of it is retweeting some pretty incriminating stuff, and there are texts within the images as well as some side context behind each of the tweets. She did absolutely say some pretty radical stuff. The men should be aborted was heavily paraphrased, but it was something she retweeted.

I would not rely too much on autoTL. I've read everything, and I can say with 100% certainty that she at minimum agreed with all sorts of crazy shit, but not all of it was a retweet. She talks a bit less crazy than the stuff she retweets, and I can't say I understand every vocabulary, especially when they're internet slang or abbreviations commonly used by their circle. But I've done a lot of searching, and yes. Trust me, I'm on her side in this particular thing, but I just cannot look past some of her radical stuff.

The most important thing though is that she never abused her position of power. But yes, she's a radical

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Tennousu
07/26/23 3:00:20 AM
#75:


Girls' Frontline K7 incident, Version 2.

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ShadowElite86
07/26/23 9:56:03 AM
#76:


Got Mika with just 1200 pyro left to spare.

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Calwings
07/26/23 12:00:00 PM
#77:


Cosette (the OG Destiny from the Takt Op Destiny anime) is now available in Takt Op Symphony. Time to pull for her, and I can't wait to hear how the game manages to bullshit an explanation as to how the two versions of Destiny are existing at the same time considering what happened in the anime.

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YugiNoob
07/26/23 2:17:14 PM
#78:


Oh dang, Kemono Friends has a permanent card. Im always tempted to buy those as long as the game isnt total ass, and as of now, the game isnt total ass.

It has good features like ticket-less skips, Arknights-esque non-gacha recruitment, a base that serves as an idle feature, and quick dailies. Plus one thing I really like that I wish they would have in more games is an auto stop when youre trying to get a certain amount of items. Like if you need something to upgrade a character, you can take a shortcut to the stage that drops it, then blitz. Then when you hit the amount you need itll pause and inform you of that fact, and you can continue or go back.

One thing that bugs me though is that it doesnt have a claim all button for some stuff like dailies. It has it for some menus so I dont know why its not for everything <_<

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Calwings
07/26/23 3:08:56 PM
#79:


Friendly reminder that the original Chinese server for Kemono Friends Kingdom already shut down after only 9 months. Unless the people running the game now are going to actually make new content beyond that point instead of just localizing what that version had, this game is on a ticking death clock and I wouldn't recommend investing too much into it. This is the entire reason why I didn't bother with it.

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legendarylemur
07/26/23 4:19:34 PM
#80:


Calwings posted...
Cosette (the OG Destiny from the Takt Op Destiny anime) is now available in Takt Op Symphony. Time to pull for her, and I can't wait to hear how the game manages to bullshit an explanation as to how the two versions of Destiny are existing at the same time considering what happened in the anime.

EDIT: Got Cosette on my third 10-pull, I'm good.
Honestly her trailer is possibly one of the most well animated thing related to a gacha ever made. The panning shot of the city probably took a ton of budget by itself. I'm just sad about the actual gameplay attached to it

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YugiNoob
07/26/23 4:27:22 PM
#81:


Oh shit, 9 months D:

Well never mind, Ill just focus on my current games then. I should be making progress in Blue Archive and HSR to improve my cafe and get the event, respectively. Im really irritated that HSR does story-locked events :<

Oh God, Kemono Friends only got 2 new characters while the game was alive. No wonder it died so fast. Such a shame. I liked how theyd sneak in fun animal facts here and there.

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legendarylemur
07/26/23 4:32:15 PM
#82:


So seems like there were some developments as to the whole PM artist (VellMori? Her twitter name is something else) situation. For one thing, some deleted tweets and retweets don't really have proof. All the screenshots are pre-2020, so it's really difficult to prove, and I'd imagine the more radical tweets that clearly violate the Twitter TOS has been deleted so it's very difficult to prove she actually retweeted, especially since to easily see who amongst the thousands of retweets was actually her is to follow her in the present day and just check the tweet's retweets, but you can't when they're deleted.

So as to how some of these screencaps even exist has been called to question

Also there are still deniers on the Reddit thread. I think context is important here. The important thing is actually her hashtags. They were hashtags that were kickstarted by the most extremist feminist group, and the intent of the hashtag was essentially a parody to anti-abortion campaign hashtags, which essentially implies that men should be aborted but in a roundabout way. Raising rapists instead of babies hashtag, even when said sounds sus, but in context is even worse. She's retweeted and even personally tweeted more than 1 instance of that hashtag, whether or not she knew the implication isn't clear, but she's been in that scene long enough to probably know the implications.

Like I said, her tweets are generally pretty mentally sound. But the groups she was advocating weren't, and the pictures have very little context to them except for those in the know in the community. They're, without actually saying it, celebrating the deaths or suicides of figures that were involved in flimsy policies that didn't properly protect women, and she retweeted those.

Again, to reiterate though, we have no way of knowing if those retweets are real, outside of the fact that some of the tweets she made definitely are, and they're consistent with the groups she was retweeting.

I really wish I can screencap myself examples, but I viewed them on Reddit mobile and don't want to scour the net to find them again. If anything is in doubt, send me a link and I'll try to translate them, but for now, I think the situation is far too messy to really say.

Her reason for firing wasn't that she used her account as a political platform, since they seemed to have walked back on that in their more recent explanation. It's actually that her personal account was traceable to her current work, which is an absurd point since that leaves a lot more people to be fired, whether or not they said anything controversial. Now that the Union has gotten involved noticing she was unjustly fired, PM is about to get fucked quite a bit more. Seems the angry incels got what they wanted in the end

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legendarylemur
07/26/23 9:01:10 PM
#83:


Yeah ok last post I'll make of this. I'm now doubting absolutely everything

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/15ah8zq/limbus_drama_purposeful_misinformation/

Seems they're going as far as to spread misinformation. So for now, I'm just gonna assume that none of the retweet screenshots are real, but her own tweets are at least provable to have existed. I'd imagine since they're supposedly deleted, they can potentially be searched via wayback machine, but I just don't personally care enough to do so.

I just didn't think the entire site would be in on so blatantly spread around false screenshots (hilariously a reply to a post calling them out asks whether or not they're claiming that more than half the site is somehow in on this supposed trolling, and I think he was being facetious because the answer to that seems to be yes), but it's possible they didn't know and didn't care. It didn't sound like they were purposely doing it in the comments, just that they were happy there were screenshots that supported their narrative.

Either way, it just reaffirms how terrible the Korean online community is, and despite this, how little repercussions they have faced in about 2 decades of time. Too many scumbag politicians sympathizing with them

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Eab1990
07/27/23 2:28:41 AM
#84:


https://twitter.com/NIKKE_en/status/1684443544759537665
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Tennousu
07/27/23 2:29:47 AM
#85:


A good amount of chubby is very good.

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Funkydog
07/27/23 4:20:09 AM
#86:


Hopefully she's actually good, unlike Neon.

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legendarylemur
07/27/23 7:23:55 PM
#87:


I uhh caved and pulled 10 on Acacia thinking I wasn't gonna get her cuz I was on 60/80

Now I'm on 3/80. Now I have to root for the hot chick to die or something otherwise I may regret it.

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ennuigamer
07/28/23 7:36:30 AM
#88:


Another redeem code for Snowbreak:
DefeatYmir
hungryapp2023
inven2023

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Tennousu
07/28/23 7:47:56 AM
#89:


GFL major event on 1st August, where we return to be monke riding TRAIN, one of GFL players' PTSD

https://twitter.com/GirlsFrontlineE/status/1684413655818080256

meme template

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same VA as Aqua konosuba

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Funkydog
07/28/23 8:09:54 AM
#90:


2 chapters blazed through in arknights and finally at chapter 11. Now to work on m3 skills for Reed.

And then catch up on the story and have to go back and do the hard mode now. A great change to be able to do it straight off, but didn't have the time or stamina for the increased costs.

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Eab1990
07/28/23 8:12:16 AM
#91:


LB6 done.

I'm pretty disappointed in myself for needing to use leyline stones on Cernunnos, but after four hours of attempts and burning all my CS's, I had to call it if I wanted Habbycat tonight.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/2/AABqeEAAEs3g.jpg

It's a good chapter overall, but by god, was it long. And bleak as fuck. Still, it did show Melusine being best fairy and all. Baobhan deserves hugs too. Even Morgan, really. Barghest... well, she's still not my type, but I see why she has fans as well.
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Spidey5
07/28/23 11:42:05 AM
#92:


Oh new topic. Tag.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/9/AAR4TaAAEs7r.jpg
Finally. The time of farming hath come. Hoping to max my final mystic code during the event. Also they are really hyping up this combined NA/JP stream. Which will air at 3 am for me on Saturday lmao.

Eab1990 posted...
LB6 done.

I'm pretty disappointed in myself for needing to use leyline stones on Cernunnos, but after four hours of attempts and burning all my CS's, I had to call it if I wanted Habbycat tonight.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/2/AABqeEAAEs3g.jpg

It's a good chapter overall, but by god, was it long. And bleak as fuck. Still, it did show Melusine being best fairy and all. Baobhan deserves hugs too. Even Morgan, really. Barghest... well, she's still not my type, but I see why she has fans as well.
I recorded a video of me ALMOST killing fluffy boy with Meluko. Just a little more RNG and I could have done without a revive. Ah well.

https://youtu.be/XxPPogDfx1A

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darksamus1992
07/28/23 1:39:11 PM
#93:


I've been complaining about my luck for a while but finally I got lucky! Got Chongyue in the free ten-pull.

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Funkydog
07/28/23 1:48:28 PM
#94:


If anyone has been having bad gacha luck, I stole it for my free 10 pull.

Thanks for your sacrifice.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/1/9/AAOaCMAAEs9P.jpg

I then got Congyue again on 2nd 10 pull using tickets I had.

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YugiNoob
07/28/23 2:22:35 PM
#95:


Funkydog posted...
If anyone has been having bad gacha luck, I stole it for my free 10 pull.

Thanks for your sacrifice.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/1/9/AAOaCMAAEs9P.jpg

I then got Congyue again on 2nd 10 pull using tickets I had.
Thats fine, my miserable luck in Kemono Friends is inconsequential as I deleted the game yesterday lol. Im happy it went to a good place :3

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Funkydog
07/28/23 3:36:06 PM
#96:


Having tried Lin out, she seems much better than many presented her as, even before whatever buffs she gets with her future module.

Not gonna say she's meta or the like, but she seems very capable. Just not afk slap and forget.

YugiNoob posted...
Thats fine, my miserable luck in Kemono Friends is inconsequential as I deleted the game yesterday lol. Im happy it went to a good place :3

I knew keeping you on my arknights friendlist was worth it.

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legendarylemur
07/28/23 3:56:04 PM
#97:


Generally I'd be salty but man my Snowbreak pulls are stupid good

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teep_
07/29/23 8:39:16 AM
#98:


Casual FGO player here: apologies if it's already been asked, but who do I use my free 5* on? I'm currently running Lv 50 Dioscuri Saber and Lv 50 Heracles Beserker

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darksamus1992
07/29/23 9:06:07 AM
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teep_ posted...
Casual FGO player here: apologies if it's already been asked, but who do I use my free 5* on? I'm currently running Lv 50 Dioscuri Saber and Lv 50 Heracles Beserker
The character you like the most.

If there's noone you like, Waver(Zhuge Liang in game) is a great quality of life unit. Tamamo is a good support for Dioscuri too.

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teep_
07/29/23 9:29:31 AM
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Alright, thanks!

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