Board 8 > MSG ranks Pokemon, Ace Attorney, Danganronpa, and Advance Wars songs

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 12:03:06 AM
#1:


Are any of these related? No, not really, but I've been listening to all my favorites of these a lot in the background while doing other stuff the last few weeks, and I thought it'd be a fun thing to do to pass the time.

I'll be doing all these lists separately, and I'm just doing my Top 10 apiece. Side games are included (mostly for Pokemon's sake), though I have probably only played about half the Pokemon games that exist, so keep that in mind. Even with its plethora of tracks compared to these other series, they might be the weakest 10 of the bunch for me? The other 3 are about even with each other, I think. Yes, I like Advance Wars music just as much as Ace Attorney music, big whoop, wanna fight about it?

I will be using different rules concerning these series, though. For Pokemon's sake, I will NOT be counting song remakes. Otherwise half my list would be Pokemon Masters songs, and that's no fun. That said, there's one Pokemon song that is kind of a remake. But it's an extreme niche case, and it's my list so fuck you.

For Danganronpa and AA, there are remade songs, and if I like those better, those are the ones getting ranked. I did limit myself to one version of a given song on my list. I think there's only one case combined where I would want to include 2 different versions of one song, but I held myself back.

When it comes to the Advance Wars tracks, I am absolutely including Reboot Camp versions, otherwise what's even the point of including them in here? Upon the song's reveal, I will also include which version I like the best between the original, remake, and remade CO Power version. And that's only if that song is in Advance Wars 1 or 2! There are future songs here as well! I feel like there's a decent mix of all 4 here, so that's neat!

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 12:52:14 AM
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Here's some appetizer Honorable Mentions for each!

Pokemon Gold/Silver - Game Corner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWbUtdx827g

This song is absolutely ingrained into my psyche. In terms of time, this might be the song I've listened to the most of any song on my list. And that's because I spent dozens upon dozens of hours perfecting Voltorb Flip. The SiivaGunner version mixed with Daft Punk is really, really good.

Pursuit ~ Lying Coldly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JveQT6DfYk

As bad as Ace Attorney Investigations is, the soundtrack is just sublime. Every time I hear one of my favorite tracks from the game, I instinctively think it's an AAI2 track because of how memorable it was. But nah, it's from this game I only played once all the way through, and it's still stuck in my head as if it's brand new. I really thought this was Pursuit 2, but it's actually just better than Pursuit 2.

Mr. Monokuma's Lesson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELfxtdEakhk

Monokuma's Lesson is a very rare instance of a song I post that I wouldn't ever listen to outside of the game. It's just.... too bizarre. But in context, this is the perfect theme for the series' most popular character. It encapsulates what Monokuma's all about. BABABABA BABABA BABABABA BABABA

Advance Wars: Dual Strike - Credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK3A0T8W_vU

This might be the least Advance Wars song from Advance Wars there has ever been. The first time I beat Dual Strike's campaign and it hit me with this fuckin' song, I was speechless. The beat comes in hard, and then the weird trance shit that pops in is just totally mesmerizing. I wonder how this song came to be. Was it a track they developed and had no idea what to do with, so they just threw it in for the credits? Just a total outlier in the Advance Wars soundscape....

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07/25/23 1:35:43 AM
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MacArrowny
07/25/23 1:37:25 AM
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MrSmartGuy posted...
Otherwise half my list would be Pokemon Masters songs, and that's no fun.
Wait, why would that be no fun? Hearing even better remixes is great!

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 1:42:21 AM
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Black/White - Accumula Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDifmU95_W4

It's probably not actually in my top 15, but I have to give it bonus points for being interactive. Head around town and activate the drums and piano for an extra bonus layer to the song! Not that it isn't a nice tune already, cuz it is.

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Raymond Shields ~ Joking Motive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul5vjkYMqMg

I get very head-boppy whenever ol' Ray shows up. I really like the first 1:15 just fine, which is usually already more than you get to hear at any given moment in the actual game before it switches to some other song. But at 1:15 it goes CRAZY, and I like it even more!

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Cool Morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNSu24BNGQ

I dunno, it's just a nice track. I don't have much to analyze on this one; it's just very relaxing.

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Sami's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktubFQi4rk8

Maybe the first controversy? Pretty sure this track is a huge fan-favorite. I just find the high-pitched doots at 0:07 kinda annoying. After that, I do really like the main melody, but it keeps her out of the top 10 for me.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 2:18:08 AM
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Pokemon Stadium - Battle Intro/End Jingles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQQTOSFJTDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtiOkTd4cA

Growing up, I played Pokemon Stadium 60% for the minigames and 30% for the GB emulator. But whenever I did play the main game, I always had to sing along to the intro. It's such a perfect 7-seconds worth of song that correlates perfectly with what the screen is showing. And then check out the fucking harmony on that Battle End. Every time I won, and the announcer's screaming "THERE GOES THE BATTLE" as this horn chord is blaring in my ear, that made me feel oh so very triumphant. God, I was easy to please growing up.

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Investigation ~ Core 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNPkCfUHgtI

The best plot twist in the series needs a killer new music track to accompany it. Really good thing they came up with one.

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Good Bearning!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIs46teItaQ

I had no idea what this was called before looking these songs up. I hate it.

Not the song, though. The song is still rad.

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Lin's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqHWATJ1k8

Days of Ruin had a super hit-or-miss soundtrack. You either loved it or you hated it. I'm actually somewhere in the middle? Which means it doesn't have a lot of representation on my list. If you've never heard these before, do yourself a favor and listen to them in headphones. They do not translate well at all to speakers.

I always preferred playing as Lin, because her theme went super hard. The dichotomy of the guitar with the..... I dunno what that instrument going all over the place for the first 20 seconds is. But it's awesome.

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Zigzagoon
07/25/23 2:26:45 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFrqN0akq8

I love the first few seconds of this. Always remember this in terms of Pokemon Stadium :)

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 2:42:10 AM
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Scarlet/Violet - Gym Leader (Final Pokemon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3zKEKIp-cQ

Not to say that the normal Gym Leader music in Scarlet/Violet is bad (it's.... fine), but when you get down to the final Pokemon and this starts playing, that's when the goosebumps start. This track really instills the feeling that everyone around you is truly cheering you on. I just wish you got to hear more than 3 seconds of the voices during gameplay, because you already one-shot them during the absurdly long 20 second intro to it.

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Logic Chess ~ Opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8vRTuYhN1M

It turns out uploading a gif of Edgeworth sitting there cross-armed silently tapping his finger to his arm to GameFAQs doesn't work, so just imagine him doing that instead.

Fuckin whatever here just click on this https://media.tenor.com/4_XCG8Sr64YAAAAC/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney.gif

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Beautiful Days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5K9CIf-XoQ

A song so nice, it makes you forget that 2/3 of your classmates are dead and the other 1/3 is all fighting each other.

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Grit's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO9htA3VXqk

Twang twang hell yeah. You'd think with me coming from rural Kansas, I'd have an even higher opinion on the country bumpkin theme. While I do enjoy it heartily, it just doesn't have that Advance Wars feel. I get that his whole deal is that he takes it easy all the time, even when he's fighting, but it just betrays the idea that he's slaughtering a bunch of people from afar.

Spoilers: I'm gonna dock a few points from another theme on this list for the same reason, but their theme is so good, it still breaks into the top 10.

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Zigzagoon
07/25/23 2:44:57 AM
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MSG noooooo not the final Gym leader poke from scarlet and violet. The stupid OHHH WOAH WOAHs

Nooooooo

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 2:45:03 AM
#10:


Zigzagoon posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFrqN0akq8

I love the first few seconds of this.
Yeah, this probably should be included in that ranking earlier. I don't have quite the same fondness for it, because I didn't hear it as much as the Stadium 1 counterpart, but that one's also quite nostalgic for me.

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Zigzagoon
07/25/23 2:50:38 AM
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If I was to pick favorite Scarlet and Violet song, it'd definitely be this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjwn6W5uDqc&ab_channel=Pokeli

Even though the champion herself is really lame, this theme is so freaking awesome. All the throwbacks to other champion themes. Just so cool!

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 2:59:12 AM
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There may be more Scarlet/Violet coming up. In fact, there may be more than one Scarlet/Violet song coming up!

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 3:10:26 AM
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Final Honorable Mentions and then I can sleep!

X/Y Gym Leader Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQzl9_ja99s

I skipped some generations of Pokemon there toward the end. I have a huge blind spot when it comes to gens 6-8. In order to see if I missed anything good, I did a quick checkup on the big 7: wild, trainer, rival, legendary, gym leader, elite four, and champion battles, starting with Sword/Shield and going backwards. Gens 7 and 8 whiffed for me, so going into gen 6, I was relieved I wasn't missing anything.

But then I got to this. This is unlike anything I've ever heard in a Pokemon game. But I love it? And apparently people generally don't like it? I guess it's different enough that I understand, and maybe it just doesn't feel right in context, but I could listen to this for hours! I especially adore that melody from 0:33 to 1:50.

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Cross Examination ~ Allegro 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LICY7XMIye0

The DLC case broke me. All I can think about when I hear this song is The Dissing of Phoenix Wright. I start bobbing my head just like he does. What has my life become.

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Despair Searching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqv33YKku1c

So uh, I've still got my headphones on from when I talked about Days of Ruin's soundtrack, and because of that, I'm just now noticing the bass in this song. Holy shit, this rules. I should've bumped this up to the top 10. Anyway, this is a very different vibe from the previous games' investigation themes. Instead of an overly frantic feel, this is jazzed out and calm. Given who you play as for most of these, I guess that makes sense.

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Advance Wars 2 - Ending Credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFIbAMomhAA

The first time I beat this game, I was lying down in the backseat of my family's car, driving back from South Dakota on summer vacation. I was not good at this game as a teenager, so by the time I won, I was exhausted, mentally. This track came on, accompanied by a bunch of images that represented different parts of the campaign, and it truly made me feel accomplished. Like my troops had fought hard and earned that time of peace. As soon as the credits were done rolling, I went into the Sound Test, put this song back on on repeat, and eventually dozed off for a well-deserved nap.

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07/25/23 3:26:34 AM
#15:


MrSmartGuy posted...
Scarlet/Violet - Gym Leader (Final Pokemon)
Wow, for me this is practically the worst song in the game.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 3:42:04 AM
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Huh. I usually have a decent finger on the pulse of what songs are well-liked in any fandom. I had no idea I was coming in here with the hot takes already. I figured most of my detractors wouldn't come until I was done with the lists to argue what songs should be on it, not which songs shouldn't.

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Zigzagoon
07/25/23 3:48:24 AM
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I don't think it's a hot take, just a divisive one. I know a bunch of people that absolutely love that song, and others who hate it.

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Pokalicious
07/25/23 5:11:31 AM
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I love it.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 10:45:11 AM
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10. Scarlet/Violet - Area Zero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuMHCJ_fWJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Py1MtAECV0

The overworld version is great; it almost feels like you're at the end of a good ol' Square JRPG. Yet, I like the battle version even more. Which is really weird, because it sounds ripped right out of a Puyo Puyo game, and that's not even remotely like the other version. Would it be cheating to put both in the #10 spot? Don't care, doing it anyway.

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10. Tobias Gregson: Rival of the Great Detective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Uk7pTkDVQ

Sorry, Gumshoe, your reign as the best detective music in the series is over. Come to think of it, why do literally all the detective get a banger accompanying theme? Gumshoe just missed my top 15, and Ema, Fulbright, and Badd all have awesome tracks. But yeah, Gregson's is just too catchy. I especially love 0:54 to 1:05.

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10. V3 Discussion -Break-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T2LJUFLY7Q

This is literally just Danganronpa 1's Discussion -Break- but with a little electronic flourish on it. Lucky for it, that flourish is my favorite part of the track, and it gets my head bopping at the beginning of every Nonstop Debate.

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10. Waylon's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV-ULQEsdcg

This has to be the most memorable first 3 seconds to an Advance Wars song ever. And it's not like it really lets up from there. Again, for Days of Ruin tracks, make sure you're donning headphones. That section from 0:43 to 0:57 hits especially hard.

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DoctorJimmy133
07/25/23 11:17:09 AM
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Mr. Monokumas Lesson is an absolute banger, my favorite track in DR1 and I listen to it regularly outside of the game

Goofy music gets a bad rap in general tbh

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 12:14:52 PM
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9. Diamond/Pearl - Hearthome City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQu3Pcrha1w

I like pretty much every Pokemon city theme, but I wouldn't necessarily consider them among my favorites in the series. Typically, I need to hear a tune several times for it to properly get stuck in my head. Except for one. The entire track is so whimsical and pretty. Everything from 0:19 on puts a big ol' grin on my face. My first time playing Platinum (I skipped D/P), I had to have sit outside the Hearthome Pokemon Center for close to an hour just vibing.

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9. A Cornered Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L29-dbnY7k

"A dragon never yields." Man, when I said the best plot twist in the series needed a likewise amazing track to go with it, they did even better for the second best plot twist in the series. While Investigation Core 2002 fits the feeling of that twist quite well, this one matches even better, and has the perfect name to boot. Well done, Capcom, as usual.

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9. Box 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CwvrVNlacw

Pretend this and Despair Searching were swapped. Now that I've heard that bass, DR1's superior investigation theme doesn't deserve to be above V3's anymore. That said, it still slaps pretty hard in its own right. I don't think anyone playing DR1 for the first time is quite ready for what Case 5 unleashes on their ears.

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9. Rachel's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eaSHN5ujM

Jeez, Advance Wars music is gonna be hard to do write-ups for, isn't it? Uh, you see, Rachel is a CO from Orange Star and Nell's sister, and she's kinda excitable and quirky, but also smart and a good leader, and this fits her pretty well, cuz that part at 0:33 is kinda aloof, I guess? The end.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 1:43:27 PM
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8. Red/Blue - Gym Leader/Elite Four Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vZb2Oy8OCM

Absolute fuckin' classic. I am frankly amazed at what they pulled off with the OG Game Boy sound chip with this. This shouldn't be possible. All the tracks you get to hear up until the Pewter Gym are nice, but there's no feeling of pressure whatsoever. Everything's all hunky dory...... and then Brock tells you show him his best and suddenly all hell breaks loose with the speakers. That background accompaniment is insane.

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8. Investigation ~ Core 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd_VBRY9zOU

Heyo, back-to-back Spirit of Justice representation! And just a bit before it chronologically! I believe the first time you hear this is when you hear who your opponent is going to be for the trial? It definitely fits the bill for that exciting moment. I enjoy the whole song, but 0:37-0:54 is definitely the highlight for me.

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8. Beautiful Days. Again. But from DR2 this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mESVTvnIVnw

I don't know why they have the same name. They're totally different songs! This one fits the tropical setting of DR2. It's more mellow and a nice, easy listen. You don't get that from Danganronpa very often. Most of their songs are.... pretty avant garde. This one is more basic, but I like it a lot!

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8. Black Hole Super CO Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4mPQR7fW64

IT'S TIME TO SMASH SHIT AWWWW YEAH. If there's one...... ok, two tracks in the series that get you hyped to start blowing up all your opponent's stuff, this is one of them. And unlike the other one, this one got better in the reboot! Kind of a shame that you only get to hear it on 5 missions in the solo campaign, but I get why they did it this way.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 8:29:37 PM
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7. Pokemon Trading Card Game - Normal Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvuK60HLbw

Hell yeah, time to get in on the TCG love! How does this game have one of the best soundtracks of its era? Totally baffling to me. Gotta be one of the only reasons this game doesn't get old, cuz it's not like battles are over in seconds in this game. They take a while. But it's not at all frustrating or boring, because of this banger track.

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7. Confrontation ~ Presto 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pucxhTspFrQ

Here we go again with the Investigations 1 stuff. Why does the worst game get the best tunes? Edgeworth deserves it, let's not kid ourselves.

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7. Ms. Monomi's Practice Lesson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9R5mpVVuQ8

heyhey heyhey HEEY

Mr. Monokuma might've gotten a weird, not-that-catchy tune, but he absolutely can't compete with Monomi's theme. Enjoy this clip of a streamer I follow:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryEmpathicSoymilkPraiseIt-EUV4h55VfoOXndeJ

This was absolutely me every time this song came on.

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7. Sensei's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bM5zbKBbI

This track is absurd. What's it doing in Advance Wars? This should be the theme of a noire detective with a heart of gold out fighting crime in the big city with an aggressive sense of justice, not some... retired paratrooper in a funny war game. The reboot version is even better. The CO Power does go a little hard for my taste, though. Plain ol' Sensei's theme is the best version.

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 11:21:27 PM
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6. Diamond/Pearl - Rival Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv8g5u55QFA

Barry is not exactly my favorite rival of the games I've played. Silver's is a bit of an edgelord for my liking, and the X/Y rivals are... something, but Barry is kinda like letting loose an orange cat on the world. The only tension involved with him is hoping he doesn't hurt himself. And yet, his track is so good. Again, it doesn't portray tension, because there really isn't any when fighting him, so that's fine. It just fits a nice, friendly ADHD dope like him.

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6. Announce the Truth 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5qVKUBBb_Y

I'm throwing my vote for most underrated track in the series to this. This is the polar opposite of Barry's theme. We're going from no tension to all the tension! It accompanies some of the better plot twists in the game. I'll never forget the moment Phoenix exclaims in 2-2, "Who is the person at the witness stand right now?" with this track blaring. It's my favorite moment in the game outside of Case 4, and it's helped out a lot by this track being so good.

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6. DANGANRONPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeitvjG-dgI

I didn't like this song much when I first heard it. It was a little all over the place for me. But having come to love the series so much, with this tune at the forefront of like 12 other tracks, it's grown on me a ton. It helps that its usage in Case 6 was so perfect, it gave me goosebumps.

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6. Tag Power!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M565ELhLL9w

It feels kinda weird that the more powerful powers than the Super CO ones don't have quite the same oomph as they do, but I still really like the good guy version. The Black Hole version is unfortunately pretty lackluster.

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Zigzagoon
07/25/23 11:22:40 PM
#25:


MrSmartGuy posted...
6. Diamond/Pearl - Rival Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv8g5u55QFA

Barry is not exactly my favorite rival of the games I've played. Silver's is a bit of an edgelord for my liking, and the X/Y rivals are... something, but Barry is kinda like letting loose an orange cat on the world. The only tension involved with him is hoping he doesn't hurt himself. And yet, his track is so good. Again, it doesn't portray tension, because there really isn't any when fighting him, so that's fine. It just fits a nice, friendly ADHD dope like him.

Hey! I like this one! Not my favorite rival battle theme. That goes to Silver. But this is still a banger :)

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MrSmartGuy
07/25/23 11:54:48 PM
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5. Pokemon Puzzle League - Brock's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_vjg6BnP4

Here's that remake niche case I was talking about. Does this really count as a Pokemon game track? I dunno. Did I just want an excuse to put Viridian City in my list? Yeeahhh.....

BUT! To be fair! I played PPL before I ever knew the 2.B.A. Master CD was a thing! I would play the puzzle mode, going through Richie's and Lorelei's levels, just so I could go in a Brock level and sit there for several minutes on end so I could listen to this uninterrupted! I learned to play it on the electric keyboard I had growing up! Even the panic version is amazing!

Honestly, I'm shocked I'm only putting this at #5. The gap between this and Barry's theme is pretty vast for me. The top 5 on this particular list are all just that memorable.

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5. Great Cross Examination ~ Allegro 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVyD8BjWgE4

I have a very soft spot for all the Allegro themes. It's one of the tracks you hear the most every time you play through an Ace Attorney game. I'd say they only seemed to get better over time, but eh, not really. They've all been really catchy! If I was being truly and completely honest with myself, this list would probably have 7 or 8 Allegro tracks on it. But there has to be a limit. The sign of a good Allegro to me is its ability to get your foot tapping while it's playing, and there isn't a one that does that better than 2015.

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5. Climax Reasoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dZnWkzv2U

How on earth did they manage to make a main melody of three repeating notes so god damn good?! I love that this video is over 4 minutes long. It makes you think it has to have repeated several times over that time, but nah. It's literally 4 minutes of three notes over and over with just the catchiest shit going on in the background the entire time. It made me never wanna finish making the comic books.

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5. Wars World News 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjBimSQdsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFwGtnL-pQ

I absolutely cannot choose between the two versions from the Reboot Camp. I really like the jazzy interludes between the main choruses of the first one, but I also love that synth-y techno feel of the online version. I'm earnestly trying to think of a better menu theme in all of gaming, and I'm having trouble. Baba Yetu from the main menu of Civ 4 is definitely up there; Banjo-Kazooie's pause menu tune is really good... I think I take Wars World News 2 over those, though it's very close.

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SeabassDebeste
07/26/23 6:58:18 AM
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love announce the truth 02, probably my favorite of its class other then 09, and a good shout to call it underrated... that said yeah i'd definitely have some of the other songs above it here

not familiar enough with later game pokemon soundtracks or the DR ones but will give a listen. off the top of my head i'd like to have the gym theme and violet city from gen 2.

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07/26/23 7:23:29 AM
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4. Trading Card Game - Club Master Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxH7Jf8xM5I

You thought we were done with the TCG? You naive summer child. You want some tension in your Pokemon song? That first 14 seconds is possibly the most overbearing intro to a battle song I've ever heard. I fucking know shit's about to go down when I start a gym master battle in this game. It still gives me the tingles 25 years later, listening to this track. I have to say it again: I cannot believe we're still outside the top 3 with this. Pokemon has some absolute masterpieces.

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SeabassDebeste posted...
love announce the truth 02, probably my favorite of its class other then 09

4. Confess the Truth 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz0IgN_MfmI

Those first 33 seconds have more feels in them than any other song in the series. I still don't like AAI as a game, and maybe because of that, this song has singlehandedly warped my thoughts about some of its cases. I know in my heart that E-3 isn't the best case in the game, but just the memory of watching Lance break through his handcuffs and start bawling his eyes out as this song comes on is such a powerful moment to me that no other case in that game can match.

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4. DEBATE SCRUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQZONitFs9g

Monokuma: "Split? Did you just say split?!"
YEAH WE DID MONOKUMA DROP THAT FUCKIN BEAT BABYYYYYYY

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4. Super CO Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tYjVw1SpE

Man, it's really hard to find just the original version of this anymore, so I had to go with the extended version. The Reboot Camp version isn't bad, per se, but it's been completely ruined by the fact that it still plays the 6-second long CO Power jingle before it, which throws off the timing. AW2 music is lowkey finely tuned and polished to near perfection. The feeling of popping that Super CO Power and having that intro of the song play as the letters fly across the screen into the name of the power with the metallic noises is just *chef kiss*. The reboot doesn't even remotely instill that feeling anymore, which is honestly my biggest gripe with the game. (it's very good)

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07/26/23 4:26:58 PM
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3. Platinum - Frontier Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSDnyVq0kao

I didn't play Gen 3 or 4 when they came out. When I went off to college, I finally decided to delve into emulati- I MEAN BUY A BUNCH OF GAMES THAT SOMEHOW ALL FIT ON ONE DS CART, and Pokemon Platinum was one of the games I LEGALLY PURCHASED. It definitely scratched an itch that I'd had since I gave the series a break, but it was still just pretty mindless. The Champion fight was pretty rough, but you only get to do that once, IIRC. But oh hey, this version has a bunch of cool post-game content! That's new to me!

Man, the Battle Frontier did not pull its punches. I was getting dunked on pretty hard, but a few tries into the Battle Tower, in comes Palmer with a sweet speech, and then holy shit what is this music?! Every time I thought I had heard the best part, a new one comes in and keeps outdoing it. Like, the little section from 0:35-0:50 is about the only time you get a break. The rest is just crazy!

From that moment on, I was just... completely hooked. I looked up how to breed for IVs, EV train, what team compositions were the best, everything. I can basically blame this song for me still being a Pokemon fan 15 years later.

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3. Mass Inquisition ~ Allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21zoAtnZEvM

Surprise! Pokemon ain't the only series with a spinoff on my list! This was what I meant when I kinda had two versions of one song I wanted to include. But really, this is just AA1's Allegro but with half Layton. And it's perfect. The very best of both worlds. I really like the usual AA part, but that Layton half is somehow even better.

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3. New World Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3EHCTP3jic

Masafumi Takada is really, really good at getting the most out of 3 notes, isn't he? A track so simple and great it gets center stage in all 3 games.

.... Yes all 3 games. There aren't any more than that.

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3. Nell's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVU-tVaaO8

Nell probably got the biggest boost from the reboot. Her theme was fine in the original, but turning it into a dance mix was not something I was aware I wanted. The added bells near the beginning do a lot. Is it because she plays the role of teacher? I dunno, could be a coincidence, but it's still awesome.

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SeabassDebeste
07/26/23 4:53:56 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
love announce the truth 02, probably my favorite of its class other then 09, and a good shout to call it underrated... that said yeah i'd definitely have some of the other songs above it here

i'm now like 90% convinced that my phone is responsible for the then/than error, apologies

fun to see the 09 version showing up right after this post though!

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07/27/23 3:45:01 AM
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2. Scarlet/Violet - Ace Academy Tournament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK20iZfOU1k

I tell you what. If this song was actually used for any kind of remotely challenging postgame content, this might be #1. Hell, even if I could just swap this with the Tera Raid music, I'd still be doing Raids every single day. It starts off at an 11/10 and barely ever slows down.

We have a saying here in Kansas. If you don't like the weather here, just wait 20 minutes and it'll change. Well, if you don't like the Ace Academy theme, just wait 15 seconds and it'll give you something new to work with. Dunno why anybody wouldn't, though. In line with the Allegro them write-up I did before, I have a huge soft spot for catchy toe-tapper themes. This is the absolute best example of one Pokemon has ever had to offer.

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2. Pursuit ~ Cornered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnvGDK0WGM

You knew it. I knew it. Everyone fucking knew this would be here somewhere. I legitimately don't think the Ace Attorney series survives as long as it does without this one track. I don't even think that's a stretch of a take to have. So many epic scenes take place to this tune: the Cody breakdown, the Gumshoe save, the Edgeworth face turn, the Larry interjection, the metal detector, Gant's desperation. I'm pretty sure it has the best track record for awesome moments in the whole series. To its credit, some of those scenes aren't nearly as awesome if they aren't accompanied by exactly this track. You think I'd care about Cody bawling his eyes out over some superhero shit otherwise? Of course not. But it still is an epic moment because of it.

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2. Climax Reasoning V3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXI2gWR_fo8

V3's soundtrack is strangely low on tension when it comes to its soundtrack, compared to the other games. The investigation tunes are snazzier, the main theme is jazzier, and when doing the comic books, you can even forget all about the fact that 2 or 3 of your classmates are going to die in the 3 hours surrounding that point in time. I enjoy just letting this theme wash over me. It fits the protag of V3 well, too. In the previous games, the main characters were really gung-ho about avenging their dead friends. V3's doesn't really want to be right about their deductions, and this theme protrays their general reluctance well.

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2. Jess's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2INtsxVg038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDJ-iUG3r5Y

This theme has grown on me so hard recently. I didn't think much of it back in the GBA and DS days, but the Reboot has given me a new appreciation for it. Listening back to her old version now, I almost like it as much as the new versions. I can't decide which is the best between the two Reboot versions, though. I like the first half of the normal version better, with its industrial feel to it, but I really like the faster tempo for the second half a lot. The part when the guitar comes in at 0:55 til the end of the loop gives me shivers.

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07/27/23 11:43:14 AM
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MrSmartGuy posted...
2. Pursuit ~ Cornered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxnvGDK0WGM

You knew it. I knew it. Everyone fucking knew this would be here somewhere. I legitimately don't think the Ace Attorney series survives as long as it does without this one track. I don't even think that's a stretch of a take to have. So many epic scenes take place to this tune: the Cody breakdown, the Gumshoe save, the Edgeworth face turn, the Larry interjection, the metal detector, Gant's desperation. I'm pretty sure it has the best track record for awesome moments in the whole series. To its credit, some of those scenes aren't nearly as awesome if they aren't accompanied by exactly this track. You think I'd care about Cody bawling his eyes out over some superhero shit otherwise? Of course not. But it still is an epic moment because of it.

The fact that they brought this back in PW3 for the Mia + PW objection moment was so fucking cool and always makes me smile. Love this track so much <3

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07/28/23 5:51:20 AM
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1. Diamond/Pearl - Champion Cynthia Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXefFHRgyE0

I feel like two of my #1 choices should be pretty obvious, from their omission from the top 10's otherwise. This is one of them. It's the perfect battle theme for the perfect fight. I can't imagine it'll ever be topped. You'd need a similarly overbearing champion and somehow an even more tension-filled track. That's a really tall order. The crescendo from 0:28-0:39 is chilling. Someone made a Beat Saber map for this song, and it might be my favorite map to play of all-time. This tune has true multi-talent.

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1. Confrontation ~ Presto 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBymcg6lDWY

This one, not so obvious. A big underrated aspect of the Investigations games is its shake-ups of the testimony themes. You still get your usual Moderato and Allegro, but then when shit is getting super real, they whip out the ol' Presto, which is nothing like the other two. This one ratchets the tension up to 12, and gets my head a-boppin' every time. Especially the final bridge to start the loop over from 0:51-0:58. I can't stop my foot from tapping to that irregular beat every time I listen to it.

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1. Kill Command
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjbgj2V6-o0

Yeah, another fairly obvious one. My entry to Danganronpa, as many people's were in the West, I'd imagine, was the Something Awful threads *looks them up* what the fuck, 15 years ago?! OK, well, anyway, they got all the way through the first game and had started the second, I believe getting through the investigation phase of the third chapter, when Spike announced they were localizing them. Out of respect for them, they immediately stopped the Let's Play so people would be more likely to support the official release.

You bet your ass I was in that GameStop (in retrospect, not sure why I'm surprised this was 15 years ago) day 1 to pick up my reserved copy. The lady behind the counter heard the name of the game and was just like... "uh, can you repeat that?" I played through the 2 1/2 case I knew well, got swerved by the emotional 4th case, and then absolutely blindsided by the reveal of the dead body in the 5th case.

If that wasn't enough, as soon as those Investigation Phase words left my screen, this starts playing. Now, I already think Homicide is the best investigation music in the series, so when the guitar comes in so hot and heavy, I immediately stopped advancing dialogue just to take in what's happening in my ears. When 1:09 hit, I thought I was gonna faint from bliss. Little did I know I was about to jump into my single favorite murder mystery of all-time. Nagito, you absolute madman, you.

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1. Andy's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD7b16-m8_A

Not to take away from the incredible job the team did with the Reboot Camp soundtrack, but it's simply impossible to improve upon perfection. I think the limited capabilities of the GBA hardware actually helped when making this song. The variety in instruments, especially that fuckin' slap bass goin' crazy, just lends itself beautifully to this track. There isn't a single part of this song that doesn't get me grooving and my head swaying.

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swirIdude
07/28/23 3:53:28 PM
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Good lists. TCG Club Battle is definitely the best Pokemon tune though.

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Dels
07/29/23 9:45:58 AM
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The last time I made ace attorney music rankings (which was actually before SoJ and GAA now that i look at it) I had Presto at #5.

I tend to prefer the pre-final-case version of the Danganronpa investigation themes but I'm pretty sure the second game's would rank as my favourite track in the series so I basically agree with you on that as well.
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MrSmartGuy
07/29/23 10:27:15 AM
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If I put Homicide on here as well, it legitimately would've been my #2 behind Kill Command.

In retrospect, the swerve from Homicide at 2 into Kill Command at 1 would've been glorious. Ah well.

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SeabassDebeste
07/30/23 7:53:41 AM
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huh, always liked the 09 presto more than AAI2's!

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Dels
07/30/23 2:52:21 PM
#38:


Oh.

I uh

well this is awkward

I just assumed it was Presto from AAI1 on the list. i think 'cause the writeup was like "AAI introduces a new presto track!" so i assumed it was the first one, i don't remember what year is what.

presto 2011 is good too though!
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MrSmartGuy
07/30/23 3:10:12 PM
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MrSmartGuy posted...
7. Confrontation ~ Presto 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pucxhTspFrQ

Here we go again with the Investigations 1 stuff. Why does the worst game get the best tunes? Edgeworth deserves it, let's not kid ourselves.

Presto 1 was still #7 FWIW

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Dels
07/30/23 3:33:57 PM
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oh, yeah. not sure how i missed that.

presto 2011 was #32 on mine.

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MrSmartGuy
08/01/23 8:34:21 PM
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I'll do one bump just cuz, then I'll let it die.

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andylt
08/03/23 5:54:08 PM
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Tag so I remember to come back to this and listen to them all. I don't know if Pokemon Puzzle League's OST is actually good or it's just my childhood nostalgia for the anime songs, but I'm glad to see it here.

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