Board 8 > KP's (In-Depth) 2018 Contest Analysis
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LeonhartFour 10/16/18 10:49:54 PM #352: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:07:15 PM #353: |
Division 7 Match 11
Tifa vs. Mewtwo https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5259-character-battle-ix-division-7-final-samus-vs-l-block-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5245-character-battle-ix-division-7-round-2-dragonborn-vs-yuna-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5229-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-phoenix-vs-vincent-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5254-character-battle-ix-division-2-final-sonic-vs-mewtwo-vs  In a world where people are tired of Cloud, Sephiroth isn't cool anymore, and Vincent is just embarrassing, what does it take for something from FF7 to stay popular? A heartfelt story that brings tears to your eyes even years later? Amazing character writing you could write an essay on? Perhaps even just the pure simplicity of being able to hit people with magic and a big sword? ... It's tits. The answer is tits. Tifa has never had a bad year. The worst that happened to her was in 2008 where she ran into Sephiroth (when he actually scary) early on. Every other year she put up solid performances, and sometimes, scares the hell out of someone. Remember when she almost upended the Noble Nine due to good ole' Zero Suit Samus? Something like that has never happened to Tifa. Tifa is what happens when you take the highest possible concentration of TJF and put her in a game people actually care about instead of, like, Darkstalkers. Apparently, it's nigh-unstoppable! On the other hand, what makes Mewtwo so strong? Because let's be honest: before 2013, he wasn't very special. Let's take a look at 2010: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3849-jenova-division-final-sephiroth-vs-tifa-lockheart https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3740-chaos-division-round-1-ganondorf-vs-mewtwo There's a big difference in those two performances. Even current Sephiroth wouldn't have any trouble slapping down Ganondorf. Mewtwo only became a worldbreaker when Pokemania ran wild and he started getting matches in proximity to Draven. In a normal setting, he's not that strong. If you take his Round 2 Wright/Vincent performance, he looks a lot more normal. It's more impressive to me that Tifa had an insane contest performance in 2013 for seemingly no reason outside of her maaaaybe overperforming due to being against mostly female characters. She legitimately did better than Cloud and Sephiroth did. Barring an extreme case of Pokemon bullshit, this match isn't going to be close. It's going to shock a lot of people who are betting the farm on Pokemon due to what happened in 2013. Result: Tifa - 55% Mewtwo - 45% Tifa has an 80% chance of winning -- Division 7 Match 12 Ocelot vs. Mega Man X https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3732-hyrule-division-round-1-red-vs-ocelot https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3795-hyrule-division-round-2-red-vs-mega-man-x Looks about right. Result: Ocelot - 38% Mega Man X - 62% MMX has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 10/16/18 11:15:09 PM #354: |
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:20:23 PM #355: |
Division 8 Match 9
Sephiroth vs. Falcon https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3836-midgar-division-round-3-cloud-strife-vs-captain-falcon Like that, except Cloud and Sephiroth are both weaker now. So... Sephiroth - 64% Captain Falcon - 36% -- Division 8 Match 10 Amaterasu vs. Lara https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3796-hyrule-division-round-2-luigi-vs-amaterasu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5247-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-2-squall-vs-amaterasu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5236-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-2-altair-vs-lara-vs Ammy has impressed several years in a row, doing a bit better each time. Okami seems to have become appreciated as the years go on and nothing truly like it has been released since. Lara almost beating Altair is actually a pretty good result, but it's just not on the level of what Ammy has done recently. I don't think the Tomb Raider sequels help her much either. They weren't as hyped or well-received as the original Tomb Raider reboot game was. Result: Amaterasu - 54% Lara Croft - 46% Amaterasu has an 80% chance of winning -- Division 8 Match 11 Ryu vs. Commander Shepard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3817-midgar-division-round-2-ryu-vs-dante https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3847-midgar-division-final-cloud-strife-vs-ryu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3819-gear-division-round-2-pikachu-vs-shepard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5226-character-battle-ix-division-1-round-2-shepard-vs-tharja-vs Ryu (2013c) has a strength of 32.50 against Base Link. Commander Shepard (2013c) has a strength of 31.76 against Base Link. Ryu51.14% Commander Shepard48.86% Ryu wins with 51.14% of the vote! Could be a close match on paper, but I don't think Shepard has ever done anything to make me think he's truly on Ryu's level. Approaching, maybe, but not there. Mass Effect would have needed another bump to potentially push Shepard up onto that level, and his series got...Andromeda. Okay. Result: Ryu - 53% Shepard - 47% Ryu has an 85% chance of winning -- Division 8 Match 12 Aqua vs. KOS-MOS https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4217-best-of-2010-game-of-the-year https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5156-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-1-kos-mos-vs-dunban-vs I'll be brief: Aqua does not pass the Pac-man challenge. She would not beat him, would never beat him, unless KH3 comes out and does wonders for her. KOS-MOS could pass the Pac-man challenge, and even if she didn't, it would be close. I'd pick Ellie>Aqua before Aqua>KOS-MOS. Done. Result: Aqua - 43% KOS-MOS - 57% KOS-MOS has an 85% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:23:19 PM #356: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
yesss validate me kp No idea which writeup validated your idea but glad to be of service! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/16/18 11:24:08 PM #357: |
Zen has been big on Green SFF between Luigi and Frog
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:49:28 PM #358: |
Division 1 Match 13
Dante vs. Ganondorf https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3817-midgar-division-round-2-ryu-vs-dante https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5238-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-2-dante-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3799-chaos-division-round-2-ganondorf-vs-ken https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3828-chaos-division-round-3-sonic-vs-ganondorf It's easy to pick Ganondorf here. Dante has flubbed nearly all of his debated matches and Ganondorf has generally looked a bit stronger to begin with, with his poor performances generally being a result of him getting Pig Ganon match pics (which is what happened in that Sonic match). If you want the safe pick, go with Ganondorf, especially since 'pick Nintendo in a close match' usually ends up working out right. It has the potential to be a barnburner, though. A lot of people will shrug away Dante's chances because of how badly people got burned when picking him against Squirtle, but let's be real. Ganondorf would not have put up a better fight against whatever the hell Squirtle was in 2013. Nor do I think that Ganondorf would necessarily come out smelling like roses if he had to face Ryu in 2010. He probably wins but it's not a guarantee. For me, the big deciding factor in this hype. You can make a case that Breath of the Wild being the apparent Game of the Ever will help out Ganondorf, and it could happen. It certainly won't hurt. But I don't think it matters much for him. He's simply not a part of what makes the game popular. People like Link's redesign and Zelda having an actual character, but no one cares that Ganondorf is in it. No one cares about Ganondorf period! He's a huge leech that's been riding on Link's coattails since 2003 and is basically banking on Stronger Zelda Games = Stronger Ganondorf which I don't buy. People have made up their mind on Ganondorf by now. A game where he's the final boss and nothing else isn't going to cut it anymore. On the other hand, there's this:  I don't think any character benefits from HYPE in this contest more than Dante has the potential to. It's more than just a new game on the horizon which looks really fucking good. Dante before that trailer dropped was, for all intents and purposes, dead. People legitimately didn't know if we would ever see the character return again in the form he was before. DMC5 is a revival of not just the series, but the character, and I've seen that infectious hype spill over to a lot of other people. If this was back in the 2008 era, Dante would be a shoo-in to win here. It's only because we're now bitter and jaded that it might not matter as much as it kinda should. So yeah. Ganondorf probably wins because blah blah Nintendrones and whatever, but Dante has a very legitimate chance to win and I'm going with him because he's a way better character so THERE. Time for the party to get crazy. Result: Dante - 51% Ganondorf - 49% Dante has a 40% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/16/18 11:51:06 PM #359: |
KamikazePotato posted...
He's simply not a part of what makes the game popular. I mean he never is and yet Zelda Drones --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:55:05 PM #360: |
Division 1 Match 14
Vivi vs. Leon https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3829-chaos-division-round-3-kirby-vs-vivi https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5239-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-2-shadow-vs-leon-vs This match has the potential to blindside people. I'm pretty sure that almost all of B8 is going to pick Vivi here because of a little thing called 'beating Mario', but he could very easily lose this. Bandwagon strength has trouble retaining itself after one contest year, let alone five. Then there's this little poll from 2007: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2886-division-6-round-1-leon-ridley-spyro-vivi It's a very old poll and a lot has changed, but still it's a lot of ground for Vivi to make up. I'll say this outright: if Vivi and Leon meet in Round 1 of 2013, Leon wins. Without question. Leon has simply been a stronger character for a much longer time, and while he probably couldn't have pulled off what Vivi did, I don't think it's because he's inherently weaker. Vivi's design makes him an easy character to rally for. I'm still picking Vivi here, but I don't think him beating Mario is the big deciding factor. Since 2007, Vivi has gotten steadily stronger while Leon has gotten a bit weaker. FF9 especially just seems to be a little more appreciated each year as GameFAQs gets older and realized that maybe that game that released between FF8 and FF10 was actually pretty neat all along. I think all of that should put Vivi as being slightly stronger than Leon right now, and in a pinch, people's old GameFAQs memories of Mario getting punked in Round 2 may help seal the deal. Be careful, though. Leon could easily win this. I might pick him myself if I wasn't so biased towards Vivi as a character. Result: Vivi - 51% Leon - 49% Vivi has a 55% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/16/18 11:57:42 PM #361: |
LeonhartFour posted...
KamikazePotato posted...He's simply not a part of what makes the game popular. Ganondorf at least had roles and speaking in other games. In Ocarina he progresses a lot of the plot and has a cool design, in Wind Waker he kinda-sorta has a character, and in Twilight Princess he...speaks, I guess. In Breath of the Wild he doesn't have lines or even his human form, I believe, which is important because human form Ganondorf is the one people actually care about. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/16/18 11:58:14 PM #362: |
he's a pretty memorable boss fight though
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NowItsAngeTime 10/17/18 12:07:29 AM #363: |
I personally think at this point the main thing keeping Ganondorf alive is Smash Bros and Ocarina of Time
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 12:07:31 AM #364: |
Division 2 Match 13
Zero vs. Noctis https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3820-gear-division-round-2-auron-vs-zero Yeah so Result: Zero - 67% Noctis - 33% Zero has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 2 Match 14 Yoshi vs. Pikachu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3788-jenova-division-round-1-yoshi-vs-jak https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3823-jenova-division-round-2-yoshi-vs-missingno https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5225-character-battle-ix-division-1-round-2-link-vs-raiden-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5240-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-2-crono-vs-pikachu-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3819-gear-division-round-2-pikachu-vs-shepard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5258-character-battle-ix-division-6-final-pikachu-vs-sora-vs-blue It's hard to gauge Yoshi's strength since his runs usually end in SFF, but honestly I think he's kind screwed here. Pikachu might not be the beast he was in 2013 but he doesn't need that much strength to beat Yoshi - he was already at that level in 2010. I guess Yoshi not folding to Missingno is a good sign but eeeeh. Missingno wasn't trying nearly as hard in that match as he was against Crono/Sephy, and it's natural that he would lose strength when facing Nintendo characters as opposed to Square characters that are for some reason extremely easy to rally against. I don't think Yoshi has had a particularly good result in a while (losing that cleanly to Raiden, even with Link in the room, was iffy). Pikachu, on the other hand, has been doing quite well for himself. To me it's that simple. Like, Yoshi could win but why wouldn't I pick Pikachu? Even at his most normal he looks on Yoshi's level, and at his best he's way stronger. I'm just going with the odds. Result: Yoshi - 47% Pikachu - 53% Pikachu has a 70% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 10/17/18 12:16:08 AM #365: |
KamikazePotato posted...
He's simply not a part of what makes the game popular. People like Link's redesign and Zelda having an actual character, but no one cares that Ganondorf is in it. No one cares about Ganondorf period! I dunno, personally I loved the Ganon boss fight in LttP and his fights in OoT are pretty excellent as well. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 12:17:19 AM #366: |
Division 3 Match 13
Sora/Red vs. Big Boss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3832-heart-division-round-3-sora-vs-bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5258-character-battle-ix-division-6-final-pikachu-vs-sora-vs-blue https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5232-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-2-luigi-vs-big-boss-vs I think Big Boss edges out Sora in 2013. Sora just looked off that year. He didn't beat the fodder/midcarders down as well as he should have, and that Pikachu/Blue match is always going to come back to haunt him when talking about his chances. Big Boss advancing over Luigi (with support from Ness) is a very solid result for a character that used to be a joke thanks to classic MGS melty art on the front page. The situation has changed since then. Kingdom Hearts 3 is one of the big upcoming HYPE games, which should be good for Sora. He really needed that shot in the arm. Big Boss had Metal Gear Solid 5, which...should have been beneficial to him...but for a variety of reasons, I don't think it was. The reception of the game itself was middling, and certain plot stuff...yeah I won't go into details. I'll just say that I don't think BB increases at all, while I think Sora does, even if it's just by a little bit. In this match, a little bit is all it takes. It just 'feels' like a good year for Sora while it doesn't feel like a particularly good year for Big Boss, and sometimes you just have to go with your gut. If Red is here, he was legit enough to beat Sora and I think that's also enough to get him over Big Boss. Simple logic but I'm going with it. Result: Sora/Red - 52% Big Boss - 48% Sora/Red have a 65% chance of winning -- Division 3 Match 14 Alucard/Yuna vs. Kefka https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5171-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-alucard-vs-falcon-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5178-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-kefka-vs-zack-vs-ryu If Kefka keeps his 2013 strength, he wins easy. Like, any of his strength. 2010 Kefka was already on Alucard's level. It's an easy win barring massive fuckery, but you have consider massive fuckerybecause it's Kefka. Only reason his win rate won't be higher. Result: Alucard/Yuna - 44% Kefka - 56% Kefka has an 80% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NowItsAngeTime 10/17/18 12:20:24 AM #367: |
I considered Yuna over Kefka simply cuz of the Kefka factor.
But generally if he has the Final Fantasy SFF advantage he'll like good If it's Alucard.... who knows --- ISFJ Big on Visual Novels, Anime, Video games. Twitter: superange128 Planned 2018 Fighting Game Mains: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgH4MCHVMAAKV9l.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 12:21:36 AM #368: |
Division 4 Match 13
Ness/2B/Shadow vs. Bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3832-heart-division-round-3-sora-vs-bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5166-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-1-cats-vs-ness-vs-locke hmm Result: Bowser - 65% Ness/2B/Shadow - 35% Bowser has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 4 Match 14 Phoenix Wright vs. Kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5155-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-1-phoenix-vs-marth-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3829-chaos-division-round-3-kirby-vs-vivi The miracle is definitely not happening in this one. Result: Phoenix Wright - 38% Kirby - 62% Kirby has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/17/18 12:22:53 AM #369: |
Poor Frog, getting killed twice in the same contest.
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 12:23:33 AM #370: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Poor Frog, getting killed twice in the same contest. And mistakes like that are why I am now going to sleep! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 10/17/18 12:25:07 AM #371: |
I thought putting Frog there was the joke. >_>
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 12:26:10 AM #372: |
Team Rocket Elite posted...
I thought putting Frog there was the joke. >_> Uh...I mean, yes, that was exactly the intent It's not because I just copied Bowser's results against Frog in 2010 and forgot to change the name --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 10/17/18 6:39:56 AM #373: |
i have archived up until phoenix/kirby
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ExThaNemesis 10/17/18 8:42:48 AM #374: |
You gonna finish this in time, buddy?!
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ZeldaTPLink 10/17/18 9:25:17 AM #375: |
I think he might finish it after the contest starts.
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ExThaNemesis 10/17/18 9:27:07 AM #376: |
Kirby is gonna win his division and then lose to Crono.
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 10:32:31 AM #377: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
You gonna finish this in time, buddy?! Yup --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/17/18 1:36:15 PM #378: |
Approximately 30 hours remain
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OrangeCrush980 10/17/18 6:31:05 PM #379: |
Dante vs. Ganondorf is exactly the type of match that Dante chokes. I have no doubt that Ganondorf wins that.
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Ranticoot 10/17/18 7:11:47 PM #380: |
Ganondorf is the smart pick, but Dante is god damn Dante and I can't bring myself to care about Ganondorf that much
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 7:19:50 PM #381: |
Division 5 Match 13
Squall vs. Zelda https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3785-gear-division-round-1-squall-vs-akuma https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3839-gear-division-round-3-auron-vs-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3848-gear-division-final-solid-snake-vs-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3813-varia-division-round-2-zelda-vs-ezio https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5251-character-battle-ix-division-9-round-2-zelda-vs-dk-vs It isn't outside the realm of possibility for Zelda to win this. If you're looking for a sexy upset pick that's worth a decent amount of points, because the winner of this is winning the division (oops spoiler), there's worse ones to pick than this. FF8 looked off last contest and that doesn't imply good things for him. Zelda is riding high off of Breath of the Wild where she had by far the most story screentime she's had in the series so far, giving her a legitimate character and everything, so that can only help. The gap between these two is probably closing. I think it's too much of a difference to make up though. Squall has historically been one of those "please put me against a weak Noble Niner I swear I will upset them" characters while Zelda has just been a 'normal' elite-level character. I'll bank on familiarity in this case. Result: Squall - 53% Zelda - 47% Squall has an 80% chance of winning -- Division 5 Match 14 Fox vs. Aerith https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3779-gear-division-round-1-lloyd-irving-vs-fox-mccloud https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3818-gear-division-round-2-solid-snake-vs-fox-mccloud https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5196-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-1-fox-vs-blue-vs-wolf https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3782-gear-division-round-1-auron-vs-aerith https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5226-character-battle-ix-division-1-round-2-shepard-vs-tharja-vs Aerith has managed to avoid most of the FF7 decline by also having tits. Unfortunately, her tits are smaller than Tifa's, so she's always been a lot weaker. Fox McCloud has never been given the chance to make a big upset, so he's somewhat undervalued among contest brackmakers, but he's got a good amount of strength too. Actually... Aeris (2013c) has a strength of 31.01 against Base Link. Fox (2013c) has a strength of 30.67 against Base Link. Aeris50.55% Fox49.45% Aeris wins with 50.55% of the vote! Huuuuh. Yeah, I'm labeling this one as a coinflip. There's not really a good reason to pick one over the other. They look close in strength and neither have a particular reason to boost or fall. Go with your gut! I'll pick Fox because...sure. Result: Fox - 51% Aerith - 49% Fox has a 50% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 7:35:26 PM #382: |
Division 6 Match 13
Geralt/Ryu Hayabusa vs. Riku https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6205-best-of-2015-game-of-the-year-final-vote https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3805-mushroom-division-round-2-ryu-hayabusa-vs-master-chief https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5178-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-kefka-vs-zack-vs-ryu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3815-midgar-division-round-2-riku-vs-captain-falcon https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5223-character-battle-ix-division-9-round-1-charizard-vs-riku-vs This one's a headache. Let's look at Hayabusa vs. Riku first. I don't know if this potential matchup was coincidence or not, but these two have a bit of history with each other from back in the ancient era of 2007: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2890-division-7-round-1-haseo-riku-roxas-ryu-h https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2908-division-7-round-2-solid-snake-nightmare-ryu-h-riku The change in results between rounds puzzled us so much at the time and became one of the prime examples of how weird 4-ways can be. It wasn't until next year where Hayabusa fought Snake for the second time, and collapsed in a similar way, that we realized that people don't actually care about Hayabusa and he they voted for someone cooler when the moment arose. So yeah, back then it's hard to say that Hayabusa wasn't stronger than Riku. That was 11 years ago. Since then, Hayabusa has got jack and Riku has actually been in games - even if they were spinoffs - and has KH3 on the horizon. I've mentioned this before, but I have no faith in a character like Hayabusa continuing to retain his strength over the long term. Even if Riku doesn't boost, it's unlikely he falls. Also...Riku was actually higher in the 2013 and 2010 stats already..sooooo... Result: Ryu Hayabusa - 46% Riku - 54% Riku has a 65% chance of winning ...But what if Geralt is here? Result: Geralt - 53% Riku - 47% Geralt has a 60% chance of winning Yeah, so, here's the thing. If you have Geralt here, you need to keep picking him. While he might disappoint and not beat Hayabusa, if he does, it's likely that he's at least some level of legit. There's wiggle room for Riku>Geralt>Hayabusa, but if Geralt gets here I'm more inclined to think he just keeps winning due to his naturally higher strength ceiling than Riku. -- Division 6 Match 14 Auron vs. Sub-Zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3820-gear-division-round-2-auron-vs-zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3839-gear-division-round-3-auron-vs-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3834-varia-division-round-3-samus-aran-vs-sub-zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5230-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-the-boss-vs-sub-zero It's nice to have to have breather matches. Result: Auron - 59% Sub-Zero - 41% Auron has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 10/17/18 7:40:24 PM #383: |
We need to have the two old men looking for a park bench to play chess pic Auron/Sub-Zero had in 2006 for old time's sake.
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 7:46:15 PM #384: |
Division 7 Match 13
Luigi vs. Nathan Drake https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5232-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-2-luigi-vs-big-boss-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5242-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-2-mr-game-vs-drake-vs Hi Drake Bye Drake Result: Luigi - 66% Nathan Drake - 34% Luigi has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 7 Match 14 Tifa vs. Mega Man X https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3825-jenova-division-round-2-tifa-lockheart-vs-gordon-freeman https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3849-jenova-division-final-sephiroth-vs-tifa-lockheart https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5259-character-battle-ix-division-7-final-samus-vs-l-block-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3826-hyrule-division-round-3-link-vs-mega-man-x https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5227-character-battle-ix-division-1-round-2-draven-vs-ryu-vs-x I posted the Draven match because MMX's score in relation to Ryu was good. Ignore the elephant in the room! Some people like to say that Mega Man X is totally as strong as Mega Man but...well...he's not. He's just never looked that good. In 2010, Mega Man got the same result on Zack that MMX got on Red (who was even to Revolver Ocelot). Even SuperTifa in 2013 isn't projected to beat Mega Man, and she's projected to dunk on MMX. Speaking of which: even if Tifa falls back to more normal levels, she stills probably wins this. In 2010 she got the same result against Gordon Freeman that MMX got against Revolver-Ocelot-Equivalent and Gordon has looked better than Ocelot for a while now. In 2013 the disparity was even bigger. I expect this to be one of those relatively close yet comfortable wins for Tifa, and it will blindside a lot of people here. Result: Tifa - 53% Mega Man X - 47% Tifa has an 80% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NowItsAngeTime 10/17/18 7:48:57 PM #385: |
I've always considered X to be around Zero's level, and figured Zero is one of few cases were the most popular character isnt the main character
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 7:49:37 PM #386: |
Division 8 Match 13
Sephiroth vs. Amaterasu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5255-character-battle-ix-division-3-final-sephiroth-vs-big-boss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5247-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-2-squall-vs-amaterasu Filler text Result: Sephiroth - 62% Amaterasu - 38% Sephiroth has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 8 Match 14 Ryu vs. KOS-MOS https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3847-midgar-division-final-cloud-strife-vs-ryu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5156-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-1-kos-mos-vs-dunban-vs Filler-er text Result: Ryu - 63% KOS-MOS - 37% Ryu has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 10/17/18 7:52:28 PM #387: |
Is it weird that I'd take Ocelot over Gordon?
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 8:02:18 PM #388: |
Division 1 Match 15
Dante/Ganondorf vs. Vivi https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3740-chaos-division-round-1-ganondorf-vs-mewtwo https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3817-midgar-division-round-2-ryu-vs-dante https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3829-chaos-division-round-3-kirby-vs-vivi https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5246-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-2-mario-vs-vivi-vs Look at that Mario result! He even punked Ganondorf there! It's so good. It's also not happening again. End of the line, Vivi. Result: Dante/Ganondorf - 54% Vivi - 46% Dante/Ganondorf have a 90% chance of winning -- Division 2 Match 15 Zero vs. Yoshi/Pikachu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3820-gear-division-round-2-auron-vs-zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5250-character-battle-ix-division-9-round-2-zero-mmx-vs-cube-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3788-jenova-division-round-1-yoshi-vs-jak https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3823-jenova-division-round-2-yoshi-vs-missingno https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5225-character-battle-ix-division-1-round-2-link-vs-raiden-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3819-gear-division-round-2-pikachu-vs-shepard https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5240-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-2-crono-vs-pikachu-vs There's not a particular reason to pick Zero over Pikachu here. He's looked weaker than him for the last two contests. Zero over Yoshi is much more doable due to the very distinct possibility that Yoshi is overrated, but even then I still think he's looked a little better than Zero. I think Yoshi could beat that result on Auron. It's not guaranteed though, and Zero>Yoshi is definitely a worthwhile upset pick Result: Pikachu - 54% Zero - 46% Pikachu has an 85% chance of winning and Yoshi - 51% Zero - 49% Yoshi has a 60% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 8:18:03 PM #389: |
Division 3 Match 15
Sora/Big Boss vs. Kefka https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3832-heart-division-round-3-sora-vs-bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5191-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-1-sora-vs-scorpion-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5258-character-battle-ix-division-6-final-pikachu-vs-sora-vs-blue https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3807-heart-division-round-2-kefka-vs-bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5178-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-1-kefka-vs-zack-vs-ryu Sora (2013c) has a strength of 33.55 against Base Link. Kefka (2013c) has a strength of 32.77 against Base Link. Sora51.16% Kefka48.84% Sora wins with 51.16% of the vote! Even Kefka at his best and Sora at his worst doesn't result in a Kefka victory. Look at the differences between the Bowser results in 2010 - it's hard to imagine Kefka made up THAT much ground. And then there's good old KINGDOM HEARTS 3 coming up, so, yeah. Kefka has the possibility to look here because seriously, who likes Sora over Kefka, but it's hard to see him winning. Sora is just higher on the Square pecking order. But it's also Kefka, so maybe he boosts again??? Who knows with this guy. Result: Sora - 53% Kefka - 47% Sora has a 70% chance of winning -- Division 4 Match 15 Bowser vs. Kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3832-heart-division-round-3-sora-vs-bowser https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5230-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-the-boss-vs-sub-zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3843-chaos-division-final-sonic-vs-kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5255-character-battle-ix-division-3-final-sephiroth-vs-big-boss So, this happened in 2005: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2117-dream-division-final-kirby-vs-bowser Since then, Bowser has done well for himself. He's had his ups and downs, but overall he's been solid. In contrast, Kirby has done some really impressive stuff recently. Beat Sonic in 4-ways, did better on Sonic than Ganondorf did in 2010, got way closer to Sephiroth in 2013 than he had any right to. Kirby has been on a roll lately and when you combine that with certain Pokemon doing really well, it makes me imagine that there's been some group collective awakening where people on GameFAQs suddenly started liking cute things more than they did when they were edgey teens. I'm not sure if Bowser would be able to do quite as well as Kirby did in the scenarios I listed. They're even in the 2013 stats but Kirby has just done more stuff. Bowser still has a very real chance to win as he's probably higher on the Nintendo pecking order by a bit, but for now I'm going Kirby. I think people just like seeing him win. Result: Kirby - 51% Bowser - 49% Kirby has a 55% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 8:28:27 PM #390: |
Division 5 Match 15
Squall vs. Fox/Aerith https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3839-gear-division-round-3-auron-vs-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3782-gear-division-round-1-auron-vs-aerith Yeah Result: Squall - 58% Fox/Aerith - 42% Squall has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 6 Match 15 Geralt/Hayabusa/Riku vs. Auron https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3805-mushroom-division-round-2-ryu-hayabusa-vs-master-chief https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3815-midgar-division-round-2-riku-vs-captain-falcon https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3839-gear-division-round-3-auron-vs-squall Yeeeah Auron - 61% Geralt/Hayabusa/Riku - 39% Auron has a 100% chance of winning -- Division 7 Match 15 Luigi vs. Tifa https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3796-hyrule-division-round-2-luigi-vs-amaterasu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5232-character-battle-ix-division-3-round-2-luigi-vs-big-boss-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3849-jenova-division-final-sephiroth-vs-tifa-lockheart https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5259-character-battle-ix-division-7-final-samus-vs-l-block-vs So this happened in 2015: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2111-chaos-division-round-2-tifa-lockheart-vs-luigi I've discussed these characters (mostly Tifa) a lot, so in the interest of not retreading the same points when I have more stuff to write, I'll keep it brief. That result in 2005 has no reason to change much, if at all. If anything - based on recent results - the difference would be even bigger. You have to hope for a big Tifa drop for Luigi to win, and I don't think that happens. Result: Tifa - 54% Luigi - 46% Tifa has an 80% chance of winning -- Division 8 Match 15 Sephiroth vs. Ryu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3853-final-rounds-quarterfinal-solid-snake-vs-sephiroth https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5255-character-battle-ix-division-3-final-sephiroth-vs-big-boss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3817-midgar-division-round-2-ryu-vs-dante https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3847-midgar-division-final-cloud-strife-vs-ryu The answer lies...in the heart of battle. Sephiroth (2013c) has a strength of 38.89 against Base Link. Ryu (2013c) has a strength of 32.50 against Base Link. Sephiroth58.22% Ryu41.78% Sephiroth wins with 58.22% of the vote! Oops. Turns out that the answer is that Ryu loses. He has never looked even close to Sephiroth's level and probably never will be. It's that simple. Sephiroth needs to drop a LOT, like even more than he did from 2010->2013. Sephiroth has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 8:43:41 PM #391: |
Finals Division Match 1
Dante vs. Link https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3817-midgar-division-round-2-ryu-vs-dante https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5238-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-2-dante-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5267-character-battle-ix-bonus-battle-4-link-vs-solid-snake This is Link - who is already the de facto pick to win every Character Battle ever - after Breath of the World. Stop, Link. Stop. He's already dead. Result: Link - 69% Dante - 31% Link has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 2 Mega Man vs. Pikachu https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5265-character-battle-ix-bonus-battle-3-runners-up-battle That match is pretty much all you need to look at. Pikachu did very well for himself in 2013. Might have been naturally stronger than Crono! But Crono is a bit of a has-been and doesn't compare to Mega Man these days. Mega Man almost beat Pikachu and Mewtwo combined and that's very hard to ignore. Even at Pikachu's absolute best, he still didn't measure up to Mega Man, and it's very possible he doesn't reach his 2013 levels of Pokefear to begin with. Pikachu still has a chance but it's based entirely on Pokemon Bullshit(tm) always being a possibility. Mega Man - 53% Pikachu - 47% Mega Man has an 80% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 3 Cloud Strife vs. Sora https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5257-character-battle-ix-division-5-final-cloud-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5258-character-battle-ix-division-6-final-pikachu-vs-sora-vs-blue Sorry, Sora, but I'm going to post that Pikachu match one more time. Because losing to a heavily rallied Pokemon is very different from losing to a Pokemon with another Pokemon character in the same poll. Cloud - 57% Sora - 43% Cloud has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 4 Crono vs. Kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5240-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-2-crono-vs-pikachu-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3843-chaos-division-final-sonic-vs-kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5255-character-battle-ix-division-3-final-sephiroth-vs-big-boss Poor Crono. He's gotten punked by random Nintendo characters two contests in a row. Can he go 3 for 3??? Jokes aside, the answer is no. Unlike Missingno and Pikachu, Kirby is a known quantity and simply has never been as strong as Crono (or Pikachu in 2010/2013). Crono is past his prime but he's not that far behind from, say, Sonic. Definitely not as far behind as Kirby was in 2010. And while he looked around even to Pikachu in 2013, Pikachu would absolutely have beaten Kirby, so...yeah. If nothing else, Chrono Trigger busted heads in the 2015 Games Contest so it's hard to imagine Crono drops anymore than he already has. Of course, if Kirby gets some dumb rally, all bets are off. Crono is impossible to rally for because his entire fanbase is already on GameFAQs. Result: Crono - 54% Kirby - 46% Crono has an 80% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 8:56:51 PM #392: |
Finals Division Match 5
Solid Snake vs. Squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2539-patriot-division-round-2-solid-snake-vs-squall-leonhart https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2922-tournament-quarterfinal-snake-l-block-sonic-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3848-gear-division-final-solid-snake-vs-squall GEE I WONDER HOW THIS MATCH GOES Result: Snake - 60% Squall - 40% Snake has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 6 Auron vs. Sonic the Hedgehog https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3820-gear-division-round-2-auron-vs-zero https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3839-gear-division-round-3-auron-vs-squall https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3828-chaos-division-round-3-sonic-vs-ganondorf https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3843-chaos-division-final-sonic-vs-kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5228-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-sonic-vs-dracula-vs Once upon a time, this happened: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3290-division-8-round-2-sonic-sandbag-auron-sub-zero Then we switched away from 4-ways and Sonic stopped sucking. As it stands, this is one of those upsets that is possible but you prooobably shouldn't pull the trigger on. I would be hard-pressed to take current Squall over current Sonic (sorry Leon) and Squall has proven himself to be a step above Auron. Still might having if Sonic is having an off day or whatever, and maybe I would roll the dice if I was an Auron fanboy, but thankfully for my bracket, I'm not! Result: Sonic the Hedgehog - 53% Auron - 47% Sonic has an 80% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 7 Samus Aran vs. Tifa https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5259-character-battle-ix-division-7-final-samus-vs-l-block-vs Tifa doesn't win even if we get all ZSS pics. That opportunity isn't coming around again. Result: Samus - 55% Tifa - 45% Samus has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 8 Mario vs. Sephiroth https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5206-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-1-mario-vs-duke-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3802-mushroom-division-round-2-mario-vs-big-boss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3853-final-rounds-quarterfinal-solid-snake-vs-sephiroth https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5255-character-battle-ix-division-3-final-sephiroth-vs-big-boss Hey, remember when this happened? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2130-tournament-of-champions-semifinal-sephiroth-vs-mario Time to reverse that result, right down to the percentage. When he's not getting snakebit by a rally + LFF combo, Mario is really freaking strong. Sephiroth...used to be really freaking strong. As it stands, just look at their respective results against Big Boss. They're just not on the same level anymore. Result: Mario - 56% Sephiroth - 44% Mario has a 95% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 9:12:55 PM #393: |
Finals Division Match 9
Link vs. Mega Man Spoiler territory: barring a major rally, Link is going to take a big steaming dump on this bracket. He was already the strongest character and then Breath of the freaking Wild came out. In the interest of preserving my sanity, I'm not going to post links in Link matches anymore. If you want evidence that he wins, feel free to look up who won almost every contest. Result: Link - a lot Mega Man - SFF hurts Link has a 101% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 10 Cloud vs. Crono https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5237-character-battle-ix-division-5-round-2-cloud-vs-frog-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5257-character-battle-ix-division-5-final-cloud-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5240-character-battle-ix-division-6-round-2-crono-vs-pikachu-vs Here's a fun one. Back in the day, the notion of Crono beating Cloud (or anyone besides Link beating Cloud) was laughable. Then 2010 happened, then 2013 happened, and suddenly Clinkeroth was mortal. Even then, Crono>Cloud goes against every bit of precedent that contest history has ingrained into people who have followed these things. Cloud would double Crono a decade ago. But time marches on. In 2013, both of these guys had similarly rough losses to Pokemon. At a glance, Cloud kept it closer, but then you notice the Magus in the other poll and realize that Crono could< have beaten Pikachu if given a proper chance. However, Cloud would have beaten Squirtle before the rally kicked in (check the updator), while it's questionable if Crono would have beaten Pikachu. However, look at this poll: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs Pikachu is a little stronger than Squirtle anyway. So what does all this rambling mean? Essentially: these two actually performed really similarly in 2013. It's hard to say who did better. At this point, if we were still in 2008, you would say: even if the lol x-stats show them to be similar, there's no way that Chrono Trigger outperforms Final Fantasy VII. There's a hierarchy to these things. A pecking order. A class divide. On this site, Final Fantasy VII is the top dog from Square, and that's an immutable fact. ...Right? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6147-best-game-ever-day-25-round-3-chrono-trigger-vs-final https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6150-best-game-ever-day-26-round-3-smash-bros-wii-u-vs-final ...Time marches on. Sign me up for the character that is very likely to continue benefiting from GameFAQs' shrinking popularity and nostalgia boner. Result: Crono - 51% Cloud - 49% Crono has a 50% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 9:16:29 PM #394: |
Finals Division Match 11
Snake vs. Sonic https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3853-final-rounds-quarterfinal-solid-snake-vs-sephiroth https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3843-chaos-division-final-sonic-vs-kirby https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5228-character-battle-ix-division-2-round-2-sonic-vs-dracula-vs So this happened in 2006: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2560-male-character-championship-solid-snake-vs-sonic-the And unlike some other results that would go very differently after a decade had passed, this...wouldn't. Snake seems to just get stronger each year, and I don't think Konami kneecapping the series is going to stop people from loving the guy anytime soon. Sonic has at best stayed at the same level. This won't be close. Snake - 56% Sonic the Hedgehog - 44% Snake has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 12 Samus vs. Mario Only need one link for this one. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2122-tournament-quarterfinal-mario-vs-samus-aran Yes, it's from 2005, which was 13 years ago. Doesn't matter. Samus might be equal to Mario against other opponents (although that's a very debatable claim), but the Nintendo hierarchy is brutal. Way more brutal than any other hierarchy in any fanbase. Mario is a bigger Nintendo character than Samus, and that means when they end up fighting...that happens. I picked Samus in that match. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... Samus - 41% Mario - 59% Mario has a 100% chance of winning --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 9:35:20 PM #395: |
Finals Division Match 13
Link vs. Crono Link He Come To Town Then He Come On Everyone Else Result: Link - wins Crono - ouch Link has a 100% chance of winning -- Finals Division Match 14 Snake vs. Mario https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3802-mushroom-division-round-2-mario-vs-big-boss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5206-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-1-mario-vs-duke-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5234-character-battle-ix-division-4-round-2-solid-snake-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5263-character-battle-ix-final-nine-solid-snake-vs-squirtle-vs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5267-character-battle-ix-bonus-battle-4-link-vs-solid-snake Welcome to the last real (non-Losers) match in the bracket! This one has been a long time coming. Snake has been the rising star of GameFAQs Contests for a long time. He went from being the clear weak link of the Noble Nine to being the potential #2. But before he can make that claim to fame, there's another character staking a claim to that position. Mario was the #4 character on this site for a long time. Link/Cloud/Sephiroth were untouchable, but Mario himself was a clear step ahead of everyone else. Samus was the only one who even came close to his intrinsic strength, and the HIERARCHY meant that if they ever actually fought 1 v 1, she got wrecked. Sonic, Mega Man, Samus, Solid Snake, Crono - none of them had any chance of beating Mario ever since like, 2005. It made sense. He's Mr. Nintendo. The most known and beloved game character in the world. And even getting blindsided by a rally doesn't change that (for the record, he still SFFd Ganondorf into the dirt in that match). But then things started to change. Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth all weakened. Link didn't weaken to the point where he could be realistically beaten in a 1 v 1 setting, but Cloud and Sephiroth...? Well, we've discussed them. Samus, Sonic, Mega Man, and Crono didn't rise above their old strength. If anything, they had more low points than high. But then there was Snake, who got announced for Brawl and has been on a tear ever since. MGS4 seemed to boost him even more, and then in 2010->2013 he seemed to get even stronger because why not? People love Snake. I could just say this is a coinflip match and leave it at that, but I think a match worth this many points deserves more of a statement from me. I think that if you want to maximize your chances of winning, you should pick Mario. Snake hasn't had anything new in a while (and never will, RIP). His biggest recent exposure is his return to Smash Bros Ultimate, which...actually was a really cool reveal that a lot of people marked out over. It's hard to say that it compares to Mario Odyssey being an extremely well-received game, though. The only reason that game didn't sweep 2017 GotY awards is because Breath of the Wild existed. When you look at who has reason to grow...I think Mario has a little more. But I'm taking Snake, because fuck it. It's Snake. I'm not not banking on him. Snake gets stronger even when he doesn't have any reason to. He's so beloved that his series being assassinated by Konami just made people realize how much they're going to miss him. Snake is so awesome that Samus' voice actress rallied against Samus and for Snake in a match they shared. He's always overcome adversity AND BY GAWD HE'LL DO IT AGAIN. Result: Solid Snake - 51% Mario - 49% Solid Snake has a 45% chance of winning -- FINAL MATCH!!!! Link vs. Snake We go from an interesting match To this Woo Game Over. Return of Link --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 9:35:42 PM #396: |
...and that's the main bracket done! I'll get the Losers Bracket later. Break time. My eyes hurt.
--- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 10/17/18 9:41:20 PM #397: |
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KanzarisKelshen 10/17/18 9:46:38 PM #398: |
I just can't pick Snake here. It's not just that Mario might be able to SFF his Smash support away - it's that Mario Odyssey was insanely beloved. Like to give some context, after something like a year, Breath of the Wild's trailer had ten million views. Mario Odyssey exceeded that in a week. The Mario fanbase is very quiet, but when something's a big deal to them it's a really big deal. If ninty boosts at all - seriously even a little bit - from the Switch rescuing the company, Mario is not losing to anyone that isn't the Link I think. I'm as much of a fan of Snake as anyone else...but I'm a fan of Mario more, and my gut just tells me to pull the trigger on the victory twice and not look back for even one minute. It's time for him to make a statement on who's the biggest icon outside of the green elf guy.
--- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/17/18 9:47:17 PM #399: |
The Mana Sword posted...
link hasnt won a contest in 8 years you hater!!! Oh wow you're right that changes everything, Link loses https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/5/50/Cdi_link.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150820191833 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/17/18 9:47:43 PM #400: |
KamikazePotato posted...
I would be hard-pressed to take current Squall over current Sonic (sorry Leon) it's okay no one believed Squall could've beaten Mario with Red in the poll in 2013 AND HE WOULD HAVE augh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/17/18 9:48:25 PM #401: |
KanzarisKelshen posted...
It's not just that Mario might be able to SFF his Smash support away He can't. Snake put up a very legit 47% on Link. Mario ain't SFFing him if Link can't. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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