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Very meh group.

Pancham >>> G-Farfetch'd > Mienfoo > Makuhita > Kubfu > Makuhita >>>>> Meditite

Gastrodon is once again the only one I care about. All the rest are mediocre or Cloyster.

Gastrodon >>>>> Grapploct > Malamar > Octillery > Accelgor >>> Cloyster

Shellos is the only good one, really. Shellder is incredibly dull and Clamperl is one of the most pesonalityless mons ever.

Shellos >>>>> Inkay > Clobbopus > Shelmet > Shellder >> Clamperl

A-Ninetails and A-Sandslash are both gorgeous. I've warmed up to A-Ninetails even more than before and it's probably a top ten or so 'mon for me now after using it in competitive and Radical Red. I also always wanted a new evo for Sandslash and while it's not quite it, A-Sandslash is just good. Frosmoth is also really nice looking, G-Darmanitan is goofy and also ridiculously fun to use and has a good ability, and then the rest are just kinda meh in comparison. There's not been many ice types in recent gens (or in general, really) but the ones we've gotten have been solid. Can't say the same about some of the other gens: Jynx is abominable, Glalie is a bland nothing-mon, and Beartic has a gigantic fluffy crotch, unfortunately.

A-Ninetails > A-Sandslash >>> Frosmoth > G-Darmanitan > Froslass >>> H-Avalugg > Avalugg >>>>> Beartic >> Glalie >>>>> Jynx

HGSS would be the best by an absolute mile if the level curve wasn't hideous. As it is, it's pretty close between HGSS/BW2/Platinum for the best one, although I voted Platinum just because the weather stuff made Gen 5 competitive miserable and the Battle Frontier is my favourite postgame facility. FRLG/Emerald are very close behind, but the Pokmon choice is a bit too limited, a lot of moves don't exist, and neither does the physical/special split, both of which make a lot of types and mons near-useless.

Snom is adorable. Best grub Pokmon. Alolan Vulpix is neat, probably a little better than normal Vulpix. This is a solid bunch, although I think this particular sprite version of Bergmite is pretty bad. G-Darumaka is way worse than the Unova version, unfortunately.

Snom > A-Vulpix > A-Sandshrew >> Cubchoo > Bergmite > G-Darumaka >>> Snorunt

Machamp > Electivire > Gallade > Gardevoir > Alakazam > Magmortar > Mr. Rime > Gothitelle > Conkeldurr > Grimmsnarl

All around decent final evos. Nothing exceptional, nothing abhorrent.

None of these are any better than average. Electabuzz is neat, I have somehow warmed up to Mr. Mime, and Kirlia is alright. Gothorita and Morgrem are the worst.

Electabuzz > Kirlia > Mr. Mime > Machoke > Magmar >> Kadabra >>>>> Gothorita > Morgrem

Wolfwalkers is very, very good. I hadn't actually heard of it before this! Glad I watched it when I started my way through the list, since I doubt I woulda ever seen it otherwise. Not sure I would have put it top but I'd be lying if it said it was undeserved.

I don't really like any of these. Gothita is another one in my bottom ten (did they really need to make a lolita Pokemon?). Machop is probably the pick of the bunch, with Ralts close behind. Impidimp is also really ugly, along with the rest of its line. "Pokemon holding objects" is not my favourite category, but it feels like it's becoming increasingly common in recent generations.

Machop > Ralts >> Abra > Gurdurr >> Impidimp >>>>>>>>> Gothita

Just the one left. I'm half a continent away from her and only ever really saw her for a couple of weeks quite a few years ago, though.

I don't like the designs of any of these at all aside from Dracovish which gets my vote by default on those grounds. They're all ugly as hell, and four of them is honestly too much. However, this is an excellent and hilarious concept for a Pokmon line and I am very glad they did it, even if they didn't need so many.

How did Tyrunt win yesterday? Did y'all just grow up with Jurassic Park and just associate t-rexes with being the cool dinosaur?

Bastiodon is so. damn. ugly. What the hell are the weird tooth things on its face meant to be? Gen 4 manages to be that one generation with a ton of the absolute best mons and the absolute worst, and not much mediocrity. There's ugly cute and ugly cool and then there's ugly whatever the fuck that is.

Rampardos is neat but let down for me by some rare (for the gens it started out in, anyway) dodgy-feeling sprites. Carracosta would be decent if it didn't have the eyes of a granny who chainsmokes menthol cigarettes. Kabutops is a generic gen 1 designated cool design, but inoffensive, and everything above it is great.

I'm a big fan of feathery Tyrantrum and the colour scheme of Archeops is really pretty. I can't really imagine better representations of the creatures which most of these are trying to portray. Maybe I've not been kind enough to these final evolutions in the past, but the top four are all probably in my top ten for their debut generations.

Archeops > Cradily > Armaldo > Omastar >> Rampardos > Tyrantrum > Aurorus >>>>> Kabutops > Carracosta >>>>> Bastiodon

Archen is adorable, the rest are meh. Idk how Tyrunt is so popular aside from it just being a T-rex. Amaura looks like a fakemon. One of the least pokemonny Pokmon out there.

Archen >> Cranidos > Anorith > Omanyte >> Lileep > Kabuto >> Tyrunt > Tirtouga > Shieldon >>> Amaura

Another weak day mostly full of stuff with no reason to exist.

Elekid > Budew > Togepi > Pichu > Igglybuff > Mime Jr > Happiny > Cleffa > Azurill

These all kinda suck. Unnecessary at best, hideous at worst. Toxel and Riolu are chill, partially because they actually exist in the same generation as the rest of their family and aren't weird and useless late additions. Mantyke has a cool evolution method, and Tyrogue has an utterly infuriating one. Munchlax is also annoying because it's impossible to find in its debut generation and may as well not exist afterwards because you just find Snorlax in the wild anyway, normally.

Smoochum is probably the worst Pokemon ever. It's useless, ugly, and just generally gross.

Toxel > Riolu >>>>>>>> Mantyke > Bonsly > Munchlax > Chingling >> Wynaut >>> Tyrogue >>>>>>>>> Smoochum

Hippowdon >> Sandslash >> Donphan >>> Sandaconda > Marowak > Mudsdale >>>>>>>>> Dugtrio

Hippowdon is one of my favourites, full stop. I love the design and I used one on a sand team back in gen 4 because everyone and their dog was using Tyranitar and I wanted to be cool. Sandslash is pretty great too, but the rest are kinda meh. Big fan of ground types but I'm here for the dual typings. The mono-grounds are fairly brown and bland, like everyone else said.

I like most gen 1 designs well enough and there's not a lot of shockers, but there's something which constantly pisses me off about how uncreative Dugtrio and a few other evolutions (specifically Magneton and Dodrio) are. Magneton I can kinda understand because it works thematically? But Dugtrio is the most bland and uninspired design ever, probably in my top ten least favourite mons. Why exactly did there need to be three separate lines with their evolution basically being "stage one but now with more heads!"

Stuff like Vanillish and Deino I get (and the latter has a great design which actually changes very notably between evos!), and with Magneton it's at least thematically appropriate. But why would you take what is already possibly the simplest design in the entire series and think "let's just add two more and call it a day"?

These are all solid enough (except Diglett), and ground is probably my favourite type. None stand out as amazing, though.

Sandshrew > Hippopotas >>> Phanphy > Cubone > Mudbray > Silicobra >>>>> Diglett

Not a fan of these again.

Kingler > Crawdaunt > Golisopod > Barbaracle > Clawitzer > Crustle >>>>>>>>> Crabominable

Xuxon posted...

I see i'm the only one that likes Binacle. Even then it's only my third favorite here, Krabby and Clauncher too good.

I don't mind it. It's not great or anything, but I don't get how a lot of people think it's one of the worst ever.

Not a fan of most of these today, doesn't help that water is probably my least favourite type.

Krabby > Dwebble > Corphish > Wimpod > Binacle > Clauncher >>> Crabrawler

I always end up using Darmanitan in every game it's in, for whatever reason. I'm now incredibly attached to it and I hate that because it looks so dumb. All of these are great, with exception to Simisear, which is godawful, and Pyroar, which is just kinda bland.

Darmanitan > Camerupt > Magcargo > Arcanine > Ninetales > A-Marowak > Rapidash >> Pyroar >>>>> Simisear

The Visit Everest poster was probably the one thing in the movie I found amusing. Otherwise a kinda sweet but mostly average animated movie. Not a sequel, though!

Shaun the Sheep was one of the more disappointing things on this list. I normally love Aardman stuff and Wallace and Gromit isn't just good but excellent. Farmageddon just felt like one of the worse episodes of the Shaun the Sheep cartoon which is like, five minute shorts, but extended to be way longer.

I absolutely love Numel. I don't entirely know why, I just love it. Pansear kinda sucks, though. Overall a pretty great batch, Vulpix is a brilliant design even if I'm not too attached to it.

Numel > Vulpix > Slugma > Ponyta > Darumaka > Growlithe > Litleo >>> Pansear

I'll replace if needed, not sure I have the capacity to play a full game right now. Will definitely be watching along though!

Tangrowth is derpy and I want one. Lurantis, meanwhile, looks like an old man wearing pyjamas.

Tangrowth > Lilligant > Sunny Cherrim > Sunflora > Gogoat > Eldegoss > Lurantis > Overcast Cherrim > Simisage

I almost regret not watching fucking Jimmy Neutron because it might have been worth it to make sure that movie got the respect it deserves. It's probably either first or second on this list. I'm genuinely astounded it's that low, although I was expecting one or two people to not be huge on it. I didn't find it dark enough for me to ever lose interest, probably because it doesn't give you too much time to wallow in it. Anyway, good movie. If anyone reading this topic likes the 'artsy' films, as it's been so lovingly put, you absolutely gotta watch it.

It's very possible to get to Hades early but killing him is nigh-impossible without mirror upgrades or before Daedalus/call/trinket unlocks. I got to him run #1 from a fresh save (having played hundreds of hours and having been speedrunning for a while before trying that, admittedly), but you kinda just get a six/seven minute fight which you have to play near perfectly because he has so much damn health.

These are mostly meh. Fomantis is absolutely adorable and probably my favourite gen 7 mon, Tangela is cute enough, all the rest are kinda bad. Gossifleur is one of the most forgettable Pokemon.

Fomantis >>> Tangela >>>>> Petilil > Skiddo >> Gossifleur > Cherubi > Sunkern > Pansage

Edit: I have rethought. Sunkern is far more boring than Gossifleur and even if I forgot it existed it's kinda cute and less godawful.

All pretty great but Gourgeist just looks kinda off idk what it is. Maybe the hook thing at the top?

Palossand's name is literally "pile of sand" and I respect that.

Nowhere near enough respect for Banette. Very nice and simple design but not so simple it's boring like Shuppet. Big sucker for the zip mouth although its weird tail thing does not need to exist

Cursola > Drifblim > Mismagius > Palossand > Cofagrigus > Banette > Trevenant > Polteageist > Gourgeist

If crust sucks, everything is ruined, and it's easier to make bad crust than anything else.

Crust
Toppings
Cheese
Sauce
Reheatability

If your pizza is lasting long enough without getting eaten to be reheatable and also tastes bad cold, you're getting some nasty pizza

Butterfly ball is probably the encounter in the game which becomes most simplified over time. It's almost impossible to do enough DPS and avoid getting overwhelmed at the start but by the lategame you're usually going to kill it before it spawns more than one soul and without taking any damage.

They're all very cute and pretty good designs. Nothing horrible here, and the worst is Shuppet which is still decent, if a bit bland. They all have really good evos as well. Ghosts definitely aren't my favourite type, though there's almost no bad designs outside of the typical ugly legendaries. Helps that there's almost none of them relative to others, but still!

Corsola-G >> Drifloon > Phantump > Sandygast > Pumpkaboo >>> Yamask > Misdreavus > Sinistea >>> Shuppet

None of the horrid under or overdesigns that plague a lot of others. Corsola-G looks utterly miserable and I want it to be loved. Misdreavus would be higher if I didn't spend about five years thinking its pearls were its mouth because it's barely visible in gen 4 and 5. Probably the worst-looking sprite relative to the base design in that era.

I think Mimikyu is just cute, has a good typing and moves, and a good ability. The concept of being a little thing that shittily pretends to be a Pikachu is also interesting and it's nice to see a bit of self-awareness in the design.

On a mostly unrelated note, can we please get more electric types which are dual typed and not single stage? About 1/6 of all Electric pokemon are from the Pikachu family or a clone, and there's a grand total of six dual type electric lines with evolutions.

Mimikyu is the only one of these I care about and I used to be indifferent. Then I used it in Radical Red and love it now.

Mimikyu >>>>> Pachirisu > Emolga > Togedemaru > Marill > Dedenne > Morpeko > Minun > Plusle

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ermine likes dogs

I count at least two other films with dogs playing a major part in them and one of them is somehow still below SLOP 2.

I'm struggling to think of any way to ask how Ermine got that ranking without being incredibly insulting. I would struggle to find 38 movies which are worse if I tried. At least some explicitly offensive and bigoted movies are fascinating to watch to get a glimpse of what's going on in the heads of some wackos. This one is just insidiously money-grubbing, corporate and sterile, but doesn't even have the decency to be mildly entertaining or even worth analysing the themes of. The fact that someone watched Spiderverse, Isle of Dogs and It's Such a Beautiful Day and thought this was better than at least two of them just blows my mind.

Centiskorch easily. I'm a sucker for the old "animal but on fire" design.

Centiskorch > Vespiquen > Shedinja > Kricketune > Ledian > Mothim > Masquerain > Ariados > Ninjask > Wormadam > Ribombee

How in the hell are Cutiefly and Ribombee so popular? They're the most forgettable Pokmon in the entire series to me. In fairness, most of the first stages of this lot kinda suck.

Fritz was one of the movies I didn't have a clue on where to rank. It was just about at the bottom of what I'd watched, but what I hadn't watched was insipid cashgrab sequels and Jimmy Neutron. It tried, was influential and had some genuinely creative parts. On the other hand, it was so viscerally disgusting and thoroughly dislikeable on almost every level that anything other than last feels wrong. I think I may have erred on the side of ranking it around the 34 or 35 mark because it only made me hate the people involved in its production, compared to The Secret Life of Pets 2 which made me hate myself and everyone to ever walk the earth.

The bow is okay but not my favourite. The rail and shield are the best, sword my least favourite and spear probably the worst.

Charjabug > Swadloon > Whirlipede > Dottler >>>>> Metapod >> Kakuna >> Cascoon (I had a shiny one okay) > Spewpa > Silcoon

All the older ones kinda suck tbh. Kakuna and Metapod are okay but bland and Cascoon/Silcoon are some of the most boring designs ever. Spewpa is just hideous like most of gen 6, but Whirlipede, Dottler and Swadloon are all cute and memorable, and Charjabug is a really nice concept done well.

Unsurprisingly never played

Trio the Punch - Never Forget Me...

All of these are pretty good except Blipbug which should be launched into the sun. Scatterbug and Wurmple also kinda suck but Wurmple was my first shiny so I give it a pass.

I won't be able to get it in in time, sorry. Only five or six films left but I've got no writeups and no time for weeks to finish the watches let alone in the next few days. And frankly I don't think I can stomach having to watch the Trolls franchise for anything other than a retirement fund and/or pain of death right now.

PrinceKaro posted...

Would either of you be able to finish if I added two weeks to the deadline? Because I do want more participants.

I thought I had replied to this and I'm aware you already extended it but the answer is maybe. I've watched everything I was already interested in plus a few extra, so I think there's a few less than twenty left. Should be doable.

ChichiriMuyo posted...

I mean, I suppose you guys are right, I just can't wrap my head around what a fae/faer person is trying to say they are. It literally does not compute in my mind. To me it does sound like one of those out there "I'm going through a phase" things.

The way I tend to think of it is that gender is socially constructed and for a lot of people, their experiences and feelings surrounding it are weird or confusing or just straight up uncomfortable. If you don't fit cleanly into a gender binary, then why the hell not just call yourself something that makes you feel a bit better? Even if you think it's over the top and silly, there's plenty of ways in which people identify or express themselves which aren't looked down upon as much but are kinda silly if you think about them for a moment. We don't tend to shame people for, say, wearing the kit of a sports team they support and basing a large portion of their identity around that.